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Trout
Merry Christmas. You can have a DMZ in Silesia and Prussia and the Black Sea

Everyone have a good one.


--- On Wed, 12/24/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

[quote:b2bb324e13]From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 New players
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 1:19 AM

Merry Xmas to all you blokes - and to you too Rachael.
Germany sends out
Kris Kringle wishes to all of ya. =P
Now seriously though... Greg... Patrick... All I want
from Santa is a DMZ.
=P

Wrapping Paper Trout

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Rachael Jameson <
verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

[quote:b2bb324e13]Folks,
Both David and Jon have asked to be replaced. I have

sign up for the game. Don't worry neither one is

them both welcome letters and am waiting for them to

to play. As soon as I receive those I will send out a

email addresses and the new deadline ( which won't

year ). I am truly sorry for all of the drama that has

idea that either player felt that way. I did know that

with the scheduling and I had thought we had worked

sorry you felt slighted. Neither Jon nor David said

whatsoever about being happy. When David asked about

had answered his questions as he never wrote me back.

drama let's get this game rolling again. I am

players hopefully by tomorrow so you guys can start

Christmas guys! Think of me tomorrow and Thursday as

families! We won't be celebrating until Friday

has to work 12 hour shifts tomorrow and Christmas Day.

that Christmas eve is thursday so Andy can be home for

presents. Once again Merry Christmas!!!!

-Rachael

[Reply]

From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 New players
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 1:19 AM
Merry Xmas to all you blokes - and to you too Rachael.
Germany sends out
Kris Kringle wishes to all of ya. =P
Now seriously though... Greg... Patrick... All I want
from Santa is a DMZ.
=P

Wrapping Paper Trout

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Rachael Jameson <
verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote:b3b42df6d5]Folks,
Both David and Jon have asked to be replaced. I have

sign up for the game. Don't worry neither one is

them both welcome letters and am waiting for them to

to play. As soon as I receive those I will send out a

email addresses and the new deadline ( which won't

year ). I am truly sorry for all of the drama that has

idea that either player felt that way. I did know that

with the scheduling and I had thought we had worked

sorry you felt slighted. Neither Jon nor David said

whatsoever about being happy. When David asked about

had answered his questions as he never wrote me back.

drama let's get this game rolling again. I am

players hopefully by tomorrow so you guys can start

Christmas guys! Think of me tomorrow and Thursday as

families! We won't be celebrating until Friday

has to work 12 hour shifts tomorrow and Christmas Day.

that Christmas eve is thursday so Andy can be home for

presents. Once again Merry Christmas!!!!

-Rachael

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Folks,
Both David and Jon have asked to be replaced. I have had two new players sign up for the game. Don't worry neither one is my husband. I have sent them both welcome letters and am waiting for them to confirm they still want to play. As soon as I receive those I will send out a letter with their email addresses and the new deadline ( which won't be until after the new year ). I am truly sorry for all of the drama that has occurred and I had no idea that either player felt that way. I did know that Jimmy was unhappy with the scheduling and I had thought we had worked that out. Jimmy I am sorry you felt slighted. Neither Jon nor David said anything to me whatsoever about being happy. When David asked about the NMR's I thought I had answered his questions as he never wrote me back. But enough of the drama let's get this game rolling again. I am hoping to hear from the players hopefully by tomorrow so you guys can start your diplomacy!!! Merry Christmas guys! Think of me tomorrow and Thursday as you celebrate with your families! We won't be celebrating until Friday morning. Andy ( my husband ) has to work 12 hour shifts tomorrow and Christmas Day. We've told our girls that Christmas eve is thursday so Andy can be home for them to open presents. Once again Merry Christmas!!!!

-Rachael

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I think the point is that if you have to delay for personal reasons, that's fine. But you can still see the time e-mails and moves were sent in, in order to see if they were before the deadline.

You can also always grant an extension regardless of personal scheduling issues. If a 24-hour extension is inconvenient for you, extend it for 48 hours. Or extend it for 24-hours and then just put the game on hold until you get back. But don't deny it, unless you are going to deny every extension. Maybe the game slows down a bit, but that's a small price to pay for having everyone feel like the rules are fair.

Again, nobody is complaining about late adjudications. People are complaining about you sometimes waiting for late orders and other times adjudicating immediately.

Nobody is saying that your family should play second fiddle. But putting the game on hold IS better than showing preferential treatment to some players/requests. Much better.

I feel like you keep jumping to the conclusion that I/we are saying that visiting your family is not a good enough reason to delay the game. Delay the game! No problem. What is not cool is sometimes granting extensions or sometimes waiting for late orders. My suggestion for your games would be:

- Grant any extension request of up to 48 hours once per player. If that means a deadline falls at an inconvenient time for you, delay the adjudication, but not the deadline.
- Allow a grace period of 12 or 24 hours for late orders. Once per player, and only once.
- Do not propose that a specific player as a replacement and ask the players as a group if that's ok.

Above all, be fair and consistent in your rulings. Your family activities are more important than the game, but you can still schedule around your real life without comprimising fairness.

Jon


On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:235d4ec0ba] First off let me start off by saying I have in no way shown any type of favoritism or have I tried to throw the game. I stated in the very opening email that if you NMR twice I replace you. When I had to replace Turkey it was because he ASKED to be replaced because he had some personal things to attend to. Secondly, I always said Prelims were always encouraged in case you couldn't be online for a turn. When I first denied the very first extension request it was because I was going out of town to visit family that I hadn't seen in 3 years ( my parents and little brother ). I worked the game around the time I was traveling and visiting instead of just putting the game on hold.
I don't understand what inconsistency you are referring to. ONE time I put out an adjudication slightly over 24 hours late. The player did send me his retreat and on a timely matter. I do have two young children and they come before any game I GM or play in. With Christmas approaching I figured you guys would understand that a little. My husband is also active duty Navy and works 12 hour days leaving me home with a 4 year old and a 1 year old.
As for adjudicating 2 hours past the deadline, that's EXTRA time you get to send in moves. I have every right to send the turn out at the 7pm deadline. I DO NOT have to give anyone a GRACE period. Ask any MOD or GM on this site and they will tell you the same thing. IF I was doing so poorly in my GMing I am pretty sure one of the two MODS I include in every turn would have pointed something out.
David: As for you not turning in moves I sent you a PERSONAL reminder 11:38am the day orders were due informing you I was missing your orders. You had a WEEK to get your orders in. Just because you got sick the day they were due doesn't excuse you not sending in orders. My very first game ever of dip I missed the deadline by 2 minutes and my GM did not let me send in orders he NMR'd me. When was this extension request you sent to me? I never recieved it or I probably would have granted it. You can ALWAYS change your moves up until you receive the adjudication in your inbox. More then one player in this game sends me several sets of orders all the way up until the deadline. So when a new player joins the game you get EXTRA time to think about orders and talk to the new player. I thought replacing a player without delay was a good thing! I don't like to play a country in CD if I don't have to. Everyone signed up to play a 7 player game why not do so until countries are elimanted.
If you all want to cancel the game that's fine, or for the players who still would like to play I can find replacements. There are more then enough players on the website who would be willing to play.

Mods: If you have seen anything I have done wrong please let me know. I don't think I have.

-Rachael

[Reply]

I think the point is that if you have to delay for personal reasons, that's fine. But you can still see the time e-mails and moves were sent in, in order to see if they were before the deadline.

You can also always grant an extension regardless of personal scheduling issues. If a 24-hour extension is inconvenient for you, extend it for 48 hours. Or extend it for 24-hours and then just put the game on hold until you get back. But don't deny it, unless you are going to deny every extension. Maybe the game slows down a bit, but that's a small price to pay for having everyone feel like the rules are fair.

Again, nobody is complaining about late adjudications. People are complaining about you sometimes waiting for late orders and other times adjudicating immediately.

Nobody is saying that your family should play second fiddle. But putting the game on hold IS better than showing preferential treatment to some players/requests. Much better.

I feel like you keep jumping to the conclusion that I/we are saying that visiting your family is not a good enough reason to delay the game. Delay the game! No problem. What is not cool is sometimes granting extensions or sometimes waiting for late orders. My suggestion for your games would be:

- Grant any extension request of up to 48 hours once per player. If that means a deadline falls at an inconvenient time for you, delay the adjudication, but not the deadline.
- Allow a grace period of 12 or 24 hours for late orders. Once per player, and only once.
- Do not propose that a specific player as a replacement and ask the players as a group if that's ok.

Above all, be fair and consistent in your rulings. Your family activities are more important than the game, but you can still schedule around your real life without comprimising fairness.

Jon


On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1f6337bf04] First off let me start off by saying I have in no way shown any type of favoritism or have I tried to throw the game. I stated in the very opening email that if you NMR twice I replace you. When I had to replace Turkey it was because he ASKED to be replaced because he had some personal things to attend to. Secondly, I always said Prelims were always encouraged in case you couldn't be online for a turn. When I first denied the very first extension request it was because I was going out of town to visit family that I hadn't seen in 3 years ( my parents and little brother ). I worked the game around the time I was traveling and visiting instead of just putting the game on hold.
I don't understand what inconsistency you are referring to. ONE time I put out an adjudication slightly over 24 hours late. The player did send me his retreat and on a timely matter. I do have two young children and they come before any game I GM or play in. With Christmas approaching I figured you guys would understand that a little. My husband is also active duty Navy and works 12 hour days leaving me home with a 4 year old and a 1 year old.
As for adjudicating 2 hours past the deadline, that's EXTRA time you get to send in moves. I have every right to send the turn out at the 7pm deadline. I DO NOT have to give anyone a GRACE period. Ask any MOD or GM on this site and they will tell you the same thing. IF I was doing so poorly in my GMing I am pretty sure one of the two MODS I include in every turn would have pointed something out.
David: As for you not turning in moves I sent you a PERSONAL reminder 11:38am the day orders were due informing you I was missing your orders. You had a WEEK to get your orders in. Just because you got sick the day they were due doesn't excuse you not sending in orders. My very first game ever of dip I missed the deadline by 2 minutes and my GM did not let me send in orders he NMR'd me. When was this extension request you sent to me? I never recieved it or I probably would have granted it. You can ALWAYS change your moves up until you receive the adjudication in your inbox. More then one player in this game sends me several sets of orders all the way up until the deadline. So when a new player joins the game you get EXTRA time to think about orders and talk to the new player. I thought replacing a player without delay was a good thing! I don't like to play a country in CD if I don't have to. Everyone signed up to play a 7 player game why not do so until countries are elimanted.
If you all want to cancel the game that's fine, or for the players who still would like to play I can find replacements. There are more then enough players on the website who would be willing to play.

Mods: If you have seen anything I have done wrong please let me know. I don't think I have.

-Rachael

[Reply]

I think the point is that if you have to delay for personal reasons, that's fine. But you can still see the time e-mails and moves were sent in, in order to see if they were before the deadline.

You can also always grant an extension regardless of personal scheduling issues. If a 24-hour extension is inconvenient for you, extend it for 48 hours. Or extend it for 24-hours and then just put the game on hold until you get back. But don't deny it, unless you are going to deny every extension. Maybe the game slows down a bit, but that's a small price to pay for having everyone feel like the rules are fair.

Again, nobody is complaining about late adjudications. People are complaining about you sometimes waiting for late orders and other times adjudicating immediately.

Nobody is saying that your family should play second fiddle. But putting the game on hold IS better than showing preferential treatment to some players/requests. Much better.

I feel like you keep jumping to the conclusion that I/we are saying that visiting your family is not a good enough reason to delay the game. Delay the game! No problem. What is not cool is sometimes granting extensions or sometimes waiting for late orders. My suggestion for your games would be:

- Grant any extension request of up to 48 hours once per player. If that means a deadline falls at an inconvenient time for you, delay the adjudication, but not the deadline.
- Allow a grace period of 12 or 24 hours for late orders. Once per player, and only once.
- Do not propose that a specific player as a replacement and ask the players as a group if that's ok.

Above all, be fair and consistent in your rulings. Your family activities are more important than the game, but you can still schedule around your real life without comprimising fairness.

Jon


On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4fe5141c25] First off let me start off by saying I have in no way shown any type of favoritism or have I tried to throw the game. I stated in the very opening email that if you NMR twice I replace you. When I had to replace Turkey it was because he ASKED to be replaced because he had some personal things to attend to. Secondly, I always said Prelims were always encouraged in case you couldn't be online for a turn. When I first denied the very first extension request it was because I was going out of town to visit family that I hadn't seen in 3 years ( my parents and little brother ). I worked the game around the time I was traveling and visiting instead of just putting the game on hold.
I don't understand what inconsistency you are referring to. ONE time I put out an adjudication slightly over 24 hours late. The player did send me his retreat and on a timely matter. I do have two young children and they come before any game I GM or play in. With Christmas approaching I figured you guys would understand that a little. My husband is also active duty Navy and works 12 hour days leaving me home with a 4 year old and a 1 year old.
As for adjudicating 2 hours past the deadline, that's EXTRA time you get to send in moves. I have every right to send the turn out at the 7pm deadline. I DO NOT have to give anyone a GRACE period. Ask any MOD or GM on this site and they will tell you the same thing. IF I was doing so poorly in my GMing I am pretty sure one of the two MODS I include in every turn would have pointed something out.
David: As for you not turning in moves I sent you a PERSONAL reminder 11:38am the day orders were due informing you I was missing your orders. You had a WEEK to get your orders in. Just because you got sick the day they were due doesn't excuse you not sending in orders. My very first game ever of dip I missed the deadline by 2 minutes and my GM did not let me send in orders he NMR'd me. When was this extension request you sent to me? I never recieved it or I probably would have granted it. You can ALWAYS change your moves up until you receive the adjudication in your inbox. More then one player in this game sends me several sets of orders all the way up until the deadline. So when a new player joins the game you get EXTRA time to think about orders and talk to the new player. I thought replacing a player without delay was a good thing! I don't like to play a country in CD if I don't have to. Everyone signed up to play a 7 player game why not do so until countries are elimanted.
If you all want to cancel the game that's fine, or for the players who still would like to play I can find replacements. There are more then enough players on the website who would be willing to play.

Mods: If you have seen anything I have done wrong please let me know. I don't think I have.

-Rachael

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[Reply]

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First off let me start off by saying I have in no way shown any type of favoritism or have I tried to throw the game. I stated in the very opening email that if you NMR twice I replace you. When I had to replace Turkey it was because he ASKED to be replaced because he had some personal things to attend to. Secondly, I always said Prelims were always encouraged in case you couldn't be online for a turn. When I first denied the very first extension request it was because I was going out of town to visit family that I hadn't seen in 3 years ( my parents and little brother ). I worked the game around the time I was traveling and visiting instead of just putting the game on hold.
I don't understand what inconsistency you are referring to. ONE time I put out an adjudication slightly over 24 hours late. The player did send me his retreat and on a timely matter. I do have two young children and they come before any game I GM or play in. With Christmas approaching I figured you guys would understand that a little. My husband is also active duty Navy and works 12 hour days leaving me home with a 4 year old and a 1 year old.
As for adjudicating 2 hours past the deadline, that's EXTRA time you get to send in moves. I have every right to send the turn out at the 7pm deadline. I DO NOT have to give anyone a GRACE period. Ask any MOD or GM on this site and they will tell you the same thing. IF I was doing so poorly in my GMing I am pretty sure one of the two MODS I include in every turn would have pointed something out.
David: As for you not turning in moves I sent you a PERSONAL reminder 11:38am the day orders were due informing you I was missing your orders. You had a WEEK to get your orders in. Just because you got sick the day they were due doesn't excuse you not sending in orders. My very first game ever of dip I missed the deadline by 2 minutes and my GM did not let me send in orders he NMR'd me. When was this extension request you sent to me? I never recieved it or I probably would have granted it. You can ALWAYS change your moves up until you receive the adjudication in your inbox. More then one player in this game sends me several sets of orders all the way up until the deadline. So when a new player joins the game you get EXTRA time to think about orders and talk to the new player. I thought replacing a player without delay was a good thing! I don't like to play a country in CD if I don't have to. Everyone signed up to play a 7 player game why not do so until countries are elimanted.
If you all want to cancel the game that's fine, or for the players who still would like to play I can find replacements. There are more then enough players on the website who would be willing to play.

Mods: If you have seen anything I have done wrong please let me know. I don't think I have.

-Rachael

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Trout,
You are too funny! If Andy ever goes to Guatemala he will definitely be bringing me!!

And for the record Trout and Andy have never met, Trout was only joking!

-Rachael

--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

[quote:cd90e7f487]From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>

Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM


And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.

-Rachael


--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM


I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.

Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P


T.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.

-Rachael

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From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM

And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab]Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.

-Rachael


--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM


I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.

Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P


T.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.

-Rachael

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Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.

-Rachael


--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e8b32b89d4] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM


I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.

Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P


T.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e8b32b89d4] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.

-Rachael

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From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM

I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.

Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P


T.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:a651f29b8e]Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.

-Rachael

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Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.

-Rachael

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