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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - Kenshi777   (Mar 17, 2010, 10:50 pm)
Jason - I very much *would* like to hear your balance issues
please...being tactful about it is appreciated, but don't sugarcoat it
- better to have a balanced variant and wounded pride than another
variant in the nobody-plays-it graveyard...

B.

On 3/17/10, Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com> wrote:

Was I in this game? a year ago or something? Wink
I had a great early start, but some 'unreliable' allies did me in...
again....
I won't go into my balance issues, any variant has them, this one's are
certainly no worse then most, I can think of one recently that was Much
worse, right Mike?
Anyway, it was well played by all, good job! I just can't believe it went
so long!!

Jason




________________________________
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>
To: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
Cc: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>;
screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com;
jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu;
alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com;
dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:46:46 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!


ross,


so basically as far as peru is concerned--if venz won't help him take down
col he's screwed? that doesn't sound very interesting to me so i still think
the north needs work..peru has no real chance to go after columbia on his
own..as you saw in this game...you had an extra build on me and the only
chance peru has is to out guess columbia...i did not...i suppose i could
have take less chances and probably survived but why? so we can both stay at
3 or 4 centers until another neighbor shows up to gobble us up from
behind--I choose to be more aggressive figuring it wouldn't work unless you
NMRed or made a big mistake since you had a much better positon with regards
to builds in the beginning than i did..it didn't work wouldn't have mattered
as somoene coming up from the south would have taken me out sooner or
later...

i also agree with your take on the center powers and argentina...brazil is
much too powerful in this game---it is like russia but brazil has a lot more
territory to protect it than russia does in regular dip...paraguay and
boliva are kind of like italy/austria except they don't have a motherload
of centers near by like i/a do in regular dip...i would put brazil's dots
closer to the aciton and add some centers up north and in the center...i
would also lower the andes wall up north altogether....let col/ven/per go at
it....

jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com> wrote:

[quote:c5a242436b]



[quote:c5a242436b]Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less
balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can
only really hit either Russia or Austria initially. I'd advise putting
the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for
another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it
gives.


I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on
the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out. My
primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact,
I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in
second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside
circumstances than by skill on my own part. Had Venezuela not been
distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though
I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining,
I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off
Chile's fleets as it was. If that conflict had gone on a few more years
Chile would have been pushing through there handily.


I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself
to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and
breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating.
My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game,
please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too! Usually I'd say I'm
more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to
my detriment as a diplomat. Maybe I should learn from success in this
game!



Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers
get a very raw deal. Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically
thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de
Guafo borders a home centre for both. Paraguay gets a slightly nore
prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from
the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice
initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.

In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four
centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer
the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which
presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable
of taking many centres in a turn.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.
Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a
good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early
leader syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the
first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4
and Peru's 3. As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I
don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and
Turkey looking at him with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of
deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is
stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army. Another build
could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.


In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and
above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the
case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one
centre they can claim without contest. With two, you basically have to
guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not.
I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more
likely to magnify rather than equalise.


Hopefully that's helped!

Ross


________________________________
Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
To: jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com;
githraine-at-yahoo.com; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com;
Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com;
fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com;
dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com



Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama"
everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary.
Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!

What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America
will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll
capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand".
"Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco

A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)

A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)

A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)

A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul

F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador

A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz

A Salta Hold

A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)

A Trujillo Supports F Lima


Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas





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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - Kenshi777   (Mar 17, 2010, 10:43 pm)

Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers
get a very raw deal.


***Agreed. I think all 2 SC powers on the map will be increased to 3
actually. There are a lot of reasons why having 2 SCs to start is a
bad thing.

Bolivia has no guaranteed gains,

***...a reason I am strongly considering removing the Andes rule -
would this help, along with a 3rd SC to start?

and is practically

thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo
borders a home centre for both.


***...true, but this has the added effect of making Chile think twice
about dogpiling Argentina with Paraguay. I would like to retain that
dynamic, even if this particular sea zone does get redrawn.

Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous

first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much
larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth
potential, but in between lots of powers.


***I always thought of Paraguay as the Austria - perhaps with a third
SC (maybe a fleet?) this will be better.

In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four
centres and a comfortable size


***Not sure if this is a given - doesn't Colombia at least consider F
Car - SaM/GDa and A Bog - Lla?

, though all four of these countries suffer > the disadvantage of only
being able to build two units a turn, which > presumably can become
important as the game goes on and powers are capable > of taking many
centres in a turn.

***Agreed - all two SC powers must go. This is doable.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.
Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good
offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader
syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year
(if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3.


***Peru is given only to have 3? Why not Iquitos and either Galapagos
or Arica? Especially if Bolivia and Chile are destined to fight over
GdG? Not to say that the fight in GdG is not a good thing if it's
forced, but still - I see Peru as a strong candidate to get 4.
Peru/Bolivia should be a strong alliance option, even as the map is.

As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his
position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him
with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru
repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with
the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming
increasingly secure.


***True - Peru is disadvantaged. How would A Iquitos as a starting
SC/unit do to help with that?

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above,
which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of
an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can
claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not
to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average
game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather
than equalise.


***Agreed.

[quote:dd395c8c8f]Hopefully that's helped!

[/quote:dd395c8c8f]
***Absolutely - thanks! Please keep it coming - I'm listening!

B.

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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - Kenshi777   (Mar 17, 2010, 10:32 pm)

EOG for Peru:

Since the designer has already acknowledged, this design needs work, so I
won't bother complaining about how unbalanced it is and just skip a head to
my perspective on the game.


***Yes, but your specific thoughts on how to improve it are most
welcome, and may well be incorporated into revisions aimed at
balancing it out...

I thought that there would be more diplomacy among the three northern
powers, e.g. Peru, Columbia and Venzula. Once the game started and looked
over the map I realized that there really wasn't much room to negotiate as
Columbia, unlike Venezuela and Peru, has no where to go. My plan then was to
take out Columbia quickly with Venezuela and it appeared to work until
Brazil NMRed.


***This is surprising - while PeVe vs. Co certainly is a good alliance
option, I thought with Colombia's fleets split, they could choose to
attack one way, and use the other fleet (on the other side of Panama)
as a bargaining chip to help their ally on the other side. Just one
Colombian fleet should be enough to help Venezuela overcome the
Brasilian navy, or Peru overcome the Bolivia. Do you disagree that
this (intended) dynamic exists, or was it not considered? If it does
not exist, why not, and what can be done to accomplish that?***

I think Venezuela got distracted by Brazil's NMR and decided to attack
Brazill--the bigger long term threat before we finished with Columbia. At
the time I thought it was a mistake for both Venezuela's future as well as
mine and I was unfortunately correct.

Congrats to all who survived and the winner, although this is one of the
most unbalanced variants I've seen actually played to a conclusion.


***My apologies for that. I am willing to make significant revisions
to improve it - to include removing the Andes rule, redrawing
provinces entirely, or changing the starting unit/home SC assignments
- your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

B.

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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - Githraine   (Mar 17, 2010, 7:08 pm)
Was I in this game? a year ago or something? Wink
I had a great early start, but some 'unreliable' allies did me in... again....
I won't go into my balance issues, any variant has them, this one's are certainly no worse then most, I can think of one recently that was Much worse, right Mike?
Anyway, it was well played by all, good job! I just can't believe it went so long!!

Jason


From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>
To: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
Cc: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:46:46 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!

ross,



so basically as far as peru is concerned--if venz won't help him take down col he's screwed? that doesn't sound very interesting to me so i still think the north needs work..peru has no real chance to go after columbia on his own..as you saw in this game...you had an extra build on me and the only chance peru has is to out guess columbia...i did not...i suppose i could have take less chances and probably survived but why? so we can both stay at 3 or 4 centers until another neighbor shows up to gobble us up from behind--I choose to be more aggressive figuring it wouldn't work unless you NMRed or made a big mistake since you had a much better positon with regards to builds in the beginning than i did..it didn't work wouldn't have mattered as somoene coming up from the south would have taken me out sooner or later...


i also agree with your take on the center powers and argentina...brazil is much too powerful in this game---it is like russia but brazil has a lot more territory to protect it than russia does in regular dip...paraguay and boliva are kind of like italy/austria except they don't have a motherload of centers near by like i/a do in regular dip...i would put brazil's dots closer to the aciton and add some centers up north and in the center...i would also lower the andes wall up north altogether....let col/ven/per go at it....


jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can only really hit either Russia or Austria initially. I'd advise putting the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it gives.

I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out. My primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact, I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside circumstances than by skill on my own part. Had Venezuela not been distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining, I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off Chile's fleets as it was. If that conflict had gone on a few more years Chile would have been pushing through there handily.

I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating. My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game, please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too! Usually I'd say I'm more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to my detriment as a diplomat. Maybe I should learn from success in this game!


Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers get a very raw deal. Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo borders a home centre for both. Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.
In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable of taking many centres in a turn.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia. Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3. As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather than equalise.

Hopefully that's helped!

Ross

Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])
To: jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])

Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary. Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!

What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand". "Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas







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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - FlapJack   (Mar 17, 2010, 6:46 pm)
ross,



so basically as far as peru is concerned--if venz won't help him take down col he's screwed? that doesn't sound very interesting to me so i still think the north needs work..peru has no real chance to go after columbia on his own..as you saw in this game...you had an extra build on me and the only chance peru has is to out guess columbia...i did not...i suppose i could have take less chances and probably survived but why? so we can both stay at 3 or 4 centers until another neighbor shows up to gobble us up from behind--I choose to be more aggressive figuring it wouldn't work unless you NMRed or made a big mistake since you had a much better positon with regards to builds in the beginning than i did..it didn't work wouldn't have mattered as somoene coming up from the south would have taken me out sooner or later...


i also agree with your take on the center powers and argentina...brazil is much too powerful in this game---it is like russia but brazil has a lot more territory to protect it than russia does in regular dip...paraguay and boliva are  kind of like italy/austria except they don't have a motherload of centers near by like i/a do in regular dip...i would put brazil's dots closer to the aciton and add some centers up north and in the center...i would also lower the andes wall up north altogether....let col/ven/per go at it....


jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can only really hit either Russia or Austria initially.  I'd advise putting the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it gives. 
 
I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out.  My primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact, I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside circumstances than by skill on my own part.  Had Venezuela not been distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining, I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off Chile's fleets as it was.  If that conflict had gone on a few more years Chile would have been pushing through there handily.
 
I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating.  My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game, please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too!  Usually I'd say I'm more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to my detriment as a diplomat.  Maybe I should learn from success in this game!
 
 
Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers get a very raw deal.  Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo borders a home centre for both.  Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.
In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable of taking many centres in a turn.
 
Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.  Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader syndrome.  Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3.  As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him with hostility.  In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army.  Another build could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.
 
In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can claim without contest.  With two, you basically have to guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not.  I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather than equalise.   
 
Hopefully that's helped!
 
Ross
 
Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
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Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary.  Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!
 
What more can be said? 
Just "Gary".  "He's the man".  "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!
 
Business cards are ordered.
 
"Gary - The South American Dominator".  "Got a country?  Call us!  We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand".  "Your centers are our centers."  "Really".
 
"Got Centers?"  "Nope, Gary took'em".
 
EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike
 
RETREATS (irrelevant):
 
Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta
 
ORDERS:
 
Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro
 
Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)
 
Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima
 
Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas
 
 
 




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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - rodtheworm   (Mar 17, 2010, 6:21 pm)
Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can only really hit either Russia or Austria initially. I'd advise putting the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it gives.

I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out. My primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact, I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside circumstances than by skill on my own part. Had Venezuela not been distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining, I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off Chile's fleets as it was. If that conflict had gone on a few more years Chile would have been pushing through there handily.

I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating. My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game, please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too! Usually I'd say I'm more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to my detriment as a diplomat. Maybe I should learn from success in this game!


Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers get a very raw deal. Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo borders a home centre for both. Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.
In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable of taking many centres in a turn.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia. Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3. As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather than equalise.

Hopefully that's helped!

Ross

Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
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What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand". "Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas




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DC-273 NNIGTFML Venezuelan EoG - TheWhiteWolf   (Mar 17, 2010, 4:52 pm)
Guys,
I agree with Jack - I made a mistake in attempting to hit Brazil prematurely. However, there was no NMR to spur me to attack. There was an aggressive an uncommunicative Brazilian heading for my centers. Once I saw that lime green fleet sail north, I knew it was only a matter of time before armies followed. I thought I'd be okay if I could get the jump on him. Unfortunately, I fell for Fredrik's ruse to work together, and headed back toward Colombia while Fredrik took center after center behind me. The man is a brilliant tactician! If only he had devoted more attention south, instead of toward eliminating the holdouts to his north. Good game everyone, congratulations to that guy with a G name down south, and thank you to Fredrik for an amazing exercise in tactics and survival. I look forward to seeing you all again in the near future - especially my main rival!


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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - FlapJack   (Mar 17, 2010, 4:12 pm)
EOG for Peru:

Since the designer has already acknowledged, this design needs work, so I won't bother complaining about how unbalanced it is and just skip a head to my perspective on the game.

I thought that there would be more diplomacy among the three northern powers, e.g. Peru, Columbia and Venzula. Once the game started and looked over the map I realized that there really wasn't much room to negotiate as Columbia, unlike Venezuela and Peru, has no where to go. My plan then was to take out Columbia quickly with Venezuela and it appeared to work until Brazil NMRed. 

I think Venezuela got distracted by Brazil's NMR and decided to attack Brazill--the bigger long term threat before we finished with Columbia. At the time I thought it was a mistake for both Venezuela's future as well as mine and I was unfortunately correct.



Congrats to all who survived and the winner, although this is one of the most unbalanced variants I've seen actually played to a conclusion. 


Jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])> wrote:

Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary.  Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!
 
What more can be said? 
Just "Gary".  "He's the man".  "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!
 
Business cards are ordered.
 
"Gary - The South American Dominator".  "Got a country?  Call us!  We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand".  "Your centers are our centers."  "Really".
 
"Got Centers?"  "Nope, Gary took'em".
 
EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike
 
RETREATS (irrelevant):
 
Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta
 
ORDERS:
 
Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro
 
Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)
 
Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima
 
Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas
 
 
 


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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 17, 2010, 4:02 pm)
Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary. Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!

What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand". "Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas

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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) FlapJack Mar 17, 04:12 pm
EOG for Peru:

Since the designer has already acknowledged, this design needs work, so I won't bother complaining about how unbalanced it is and just skip a head to my perspective on the game.

I thought that there would be more diplomacy among the three northern powers, e.g. Peru, Columbia and Venzula. Once the game started and looked over the map I realized that there really wasn't much room to negotiate as Columbia, unlike Venezuela and Peru, has no where to go. My plan then was to take out Columbia quickly with Venezuela and it appeared to work until Brazil NMRed. 

I think Venezuela got distracted by Brazil's NMR and decided to attack Brazill--the bigger long term threat before we finished with Columbia. At the time I thought it was a mistake for both Venezuela's future as well as mine and I was unfortunately correct.



Congrats to all who survived and the winner, although this is one of the most unbalanced variants I've seen actually played to a conclusion. 


Jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])> wrote:

Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary.  Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!
 
What more can be said? 
Just "Gary".  "He's the man".  "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!
 
Business cards are ordered.
 
"Gary - The South American Dominator".  "Got a country?  Call us!  We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand".  "Your centers are our centers."  "Really".
 
"Got Centers?"  "Nope, Gary took'em".
 
EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike
 
RETREATS (irrelevant):
 
Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta
 
ORDERS:
 
Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro
 
Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)
 
Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima
 
Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas
 
 
 


NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) rodtheworm Mar 17, 06:21 pm
Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can only really hit either Russia or Austria initially. I'd advise putting the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it gives.

I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out. My primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact, I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside circumstances than by skill on my own part. Had Venezuela not been distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining, I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off Chile's fleets as it was. If that conflict had gone on a few more years Chile would have been pushing through there handily.

I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating. My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game, please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too! Usually I'd say I'm more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to my detriment as a diplomat. Maybe I should learn from success in this game!


Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers get a very raw deal. Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo borders a home centre for both. Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.
In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable of taking many centres in a turn.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia. Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3. As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather than equalise.

Hopefully that's helped!

Ross

Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
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What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand". "Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas




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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) FlapJack Mar 17, 06:46 pm
ross,



so basically as far as peru is concerned--if venz won't help him take down col he's screwed? that doesn't sound very interesting to me so i still think the north needs work..peru has no real chance to go after columbia on his own..as you saw in this game...you had an extra build on me and the only chance peru has is to out guess columbia...i did not...i suppose i could have take less chances and probably survived but why? so we can both stay at 3 or 4 centers until another neighbor shows up to gobble us up from behind--I choose to be more aggressive figuring it wouldn't work unless you NMRed or made a big mistake since you had a much better positon with regards to builds in the beginning than i did..it didn't work wouldn't have mattered as somoene coming up from the south would have taken me out sooner or later...


i also agree with your take on the center powers and argentina...brazil is much too powerful in this game---it is like russia but brazil has a lot more territory to protect it than russia does in regular dip...paraguay and boliva are  kind of like italy/austria except they don't have a motherload of centers near by like i/a do in regular dip...i would put brazil's dots closer to the aciton and add some centers up north and in the center...i would also lower the andes wall up north altogether....let col/ven/per go at it....


jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can only really hit either Russia or Austria initially.  I'd advise putting the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it gives. 
 
I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out.  My primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact, I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside circumstances than by skill on my own part.  Had Venezuela not been distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining, I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off Chile's fleets as it was.  If that conflict had gone on a few more years Chile would have been pushing through there handily.
 
I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating.  My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game, please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too!  Usually I'd say I'm more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to my detriment as a diplomat.  Maybe I should learn from success in this game!
 
 
Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers get a very raw deal.  Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo borders a home centre for both.  Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.
In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable of taking many centres in a turn.
 
Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.  Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader syndrome.  Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3.  As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him with hostility.  In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army.  Another build could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.
 
In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can claim without contest.  With two, you basically have to guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not.  I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather than equalise.   
 
Hopefully that's helped!
 
Ross
 
Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0500
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Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary.  Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!
 
What more can be said? 
Just "Gary".  "He's the man".  "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!
 
Business cards are ordered.
 
"Gary - The South American Dominator".  "Got a country?  Call us!  We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand".  "Your centers are our centers."  "Really".
 
"Got Centers?"  "Nope, Gary took'em".
 
EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike
 
RETREATS (irrelevant):
 
Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta
 
ORDERS:
 
Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro
 
Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)
 
Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima
 
Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas
 
 
 




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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) Githraine Mar 17, 07:08 pm
Was I in this game? a year ago or something? Wink
I had a great early start, but some 'unreliable' allies did me in... again....
I won't go into my balance issues, any variant has them, this one's are certainly no worse then most, I can think of one recently that was Much worse, right Mike?
Anyway, it was well played by all, good job! I just can't believe it went so long!!

Jason


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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:46:46 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!

ross,



so basically as far as peru is concerned--if venz won't help him take down col he's screwed? that doesn't sound very interesting to me so i still think the north needs work..peru has no real chance to go after columbia on his own..as you saw in this game...you had an extra build on me and the only chance peru has is to out guess columbia...i did not...i suppose i could have take less chances and probably survived but why? so we can both stay at 3 or 4 centers until another neighbor shows up to gobble us up from behind--I choose to be more aggressive figuring it wouldn't work unless you NMRed or made a big mistake since you had a much better positon with regards to builds in the beginning than i did..it didn't work wouldn't have mattered as somoene coming up from the south would have taken me out sooner or later...


i also agree with your take on the center powers and argentina...brazil is much too powerful in this game---it is like russia but brazil has a lot more territory to protect it than russia does in regular dip...paraguay and boliva are kind of like italy/austria except they don't have a motherload of centers near by like i/a do in regular dip...i would put brazil's dots closer to the aciton and add some centers up north and in the center...i would also lower the andes wall up north altogether....let col/ven/per go at it....


jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can only really hit either Russia or Austria initially. I'd advise putting the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it gives.

I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out. My primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact, I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside circumstances than by skill on my own part. Had Venezuela not been distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining, I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off Chile's fleets as it was. If that conflict had gone on a few more years Chile would have been pushing through there handily.

I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating. My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game, please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too! Usually I'd say I'm more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to my detriment as a diplomat. Maybe I should learn from success in this game!


Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers get a very raw deal. Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo borders a home centre for both. Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.
In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable of taking many centres in a turn.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia. Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3. As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather than equalise.

Hopefully that's helped!

Ross

Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0500
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Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary. Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!

What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand". "Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas







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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) Kenshi777 Mar 17, 10:32 pm

EOG for Peru:

Since the designer has already acknowledged, this design needs work, so I
won't bother complaining about how unbalanced it is and just skip a head to
my perspective on the game.


***Yes, but your specific thoughts on how to improve it are most
welcome, and may well be incorporated into revisions aimed at
balancing it out...

I thought that there would be more diplomacy among the three northern
powers, e.g. Peru, Columbia and Venzula. Once the game started and looked
over the map I realized that there really wasn't much room to negotiate as
Columbia, unlike Venezuela and Peru, has no where to go. My plan then was to
take out Columbia quickly with Venezuela and it appeared to work until
Brazil NMRed.


***This is surprising - while PeVe vs. Co certainly is a good alliance
option, I thought with Colombia's fleets split, they could choose to
attack one way, and use the other fleet (on the other side of Panama)
as a bargaining chip to help their ally on the other side. Just one
Colombian fleet should be enough to help Venezuela overcome the
Brasilian navy, or Peru overcome the Bolivia. Do you disagree that
this (intended) dynamic exists, or was it not considered? If it does
not exist, why not, and what can be done to accomplish that?***

I think Venezuela got distracted by Brazil's NMR and decided to attack
Brazill--the bigger long term threat before we finished with Columbia. At
the time I thought it was a mistake for both Venezuela's future as well as
mine and I was unfortunately correct.

Congrats to all who survived and the winner, although this is one of the
most unbalanced variants I've seen actually played to a conclusion.


***My apologies for that. I am willing to make significant revisions
to improve it - to include removing the Andes rule, redrawing
provinces entirely, or changing the starting unit/home SC assignments
- your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

B.

--
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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) Kenshi777 Mar 17, 10:43 pm

Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers
get a very raw deal.


***Agreed. I think all 2 SC powers on the map will be increased to 3
actually. There are a lot of reasons why having 2 SCs to start is a
bad thing.

Bolivia has no guaranteed gains,

***...a reason I am strongly considering removing the Andes rule -
would this help, along with a 3rd SC to start?

and is practically

thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo
borders a home centre for both.


***...true, but this has the added effect of making Chile think twice
about dogpiling Argentina with Paraguay. I would like to retain that
dynamic, even if this particular sea zone does get redrawn.

Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous

first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much
larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth
potential, but in between lots of powers.


***I always thought of Paraguay as the Austria - perhaps with a third
SC (maybe a fleet?) this will be better.

In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four
centres and a comfortable size


***Not sure if this is a given - doesn't Colombia at least consider F
Car - SaM/GDa and A Bog - Lla?

, though all four of these countries suffer > the disadvantage of only
being able to build two units a turn, which > presumably can become
important as the game goes on and powers are capable > of taking many
centres in a turn.

***Agreed - all two SC powers must go. This is doable.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.
Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good
offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader
syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year
(if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3.


***Peru is given only to have 3? Why not Iquitos and either Galapagos
or Arica? Especially if Bolivia and Chile are destined to fight over
GdG? Not to say that the fight in GdG is not a good thing if it's
forced, but still - I see Peru as a strong candidate to get 4.
Peru/Bolivia should be a strong alliance option, even as the map is.

As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his
position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him
with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru
repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with
the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming
increasingly secure.


***True - Peru is disadvantaged. How would A Iquitos as a starting
SC/unit do to help with that?

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above,
which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of
an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can
claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not
to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average
game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather
than equalise.


***Agreed.

[quote:dd395c8c8f]Hopefully that's helped!

[/quote:dd395c8c8f]
***Absolutely - thanks! Please keep it coming - I'm listening!

B.

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NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo! (dc273) Kenshi777 Mar 17, 10:50 pm
Jason - I very much *would* like to hear your balance issues
please...being tactful about it is appreciated, but don't sugarcoat it
- better to have a balanced variant and wounded pride than another
variant in the nobody-plays-it graveyard...

B.

On 3/17/10, Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com> wrote:

Was I in this game? a year ago or something? Wink
I had a great early start, but some 'unreliable' allies did me in...
again....
I won't go into my balance issues, any variant has them, this one's are
certainly no worse then most, I can think of one recently that was Much
worse, right Mike?
Anyway, it was well played by all, good job! I just can't believe it went
so long!!

Jason




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Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!


ross,


so basically as far as peru is concerned--if venz won't help him take down
col he's screwed? that doesn't sound very interesting to me so i still think
the north needs work..peru has no real chance to go after columbia on his
own..as you saw in this game...you had an extra build on me and the only
chance peru has is to out guess columbia...i did not...i suppose i could
have take less chances and probably survived but why? so we can both stay at
3 or 4 centers until another neighbor shows up to gobble us up from
behind--I choose to be more aggressive figuring it wouldn't work unless you
NMRed or made a big mistake since you had a much better positon with regards
to builds in the beginning than i did..it didn't work wouldn't have mattered
as somoene coming up from the south would have taken me out sooner or
later...

i also agree with your take on the center powers and argentina...brazil is
much too powerful in this game---it is like russia but brazil has a lot more
territory to protect it than russia does in regular dip...paraguay and
boliva are kind of like italy/austria except they don't have a motherload
of centers near by like i/a do in regular dip...i would put brazil's dots
closer to the aciton and add some centers up north and in the center...i
would also lower the andes wall up north altogether....let col/ven/per go at
it....

jack

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com> wrote:

[quote:c5a242436b]



[quote:c5a242436b]Columbia having nowhere else to go does make this map a little less
balanced, as has been said, but to me that's only in as far as Turkey can
only really hit either Russia or Austria initially. I'd advise putting
the Panama canal in (even if it wouldn't actually be completed for
another 80-odd years) just because of the expanded tactical options it
gives.


I suppose as a replacement playing only 5 of the 12 years I missed out on
the early negotiations where the really juicy stuff got sorted out. My
primary goal for this game was to survive, which I happily did - in fact,
I was surprised at the come back Columbia made in ending the game in
second place, though I suspect it was more by luck and outside
circumstances than by skill on my own part. Had Venezuela not been
distracted by Brasil, I expect I would have made a quick exit, and though
I was pleased to outmanoeuvre Peru in the two years or so after joining,
I'm very aware that I only just got the block up in the south to fend off
Chile's fleets as it was. If that conflict had gone on a few more years
Chile would have been pushing through there handily.


I'd like to point out that, in pursuit of this survival I allowed myself
to be more ruthless in making promises or agreeing to alliances and
breaking them, or manipulating others with no intention of reciprocating.
My play is not normally like this, so if we meet in a future game,
please don't assume I'll be untrustworthy there too! Usually I'd say I'm
more inclined to be a straight talker than the average player, perhaps to
my detriment as a diplomat. Maybe I should learn from success in this
game!



Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers
get a very raw deal. Bolivia has no guaranteed gains, and is practically
thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de
Guafo borders a home centre for both. Paraguay gets a slightly nore
prosperous first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from
the much larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice
initial growth potential, but in between lots of powers.

In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four
centres and a comfortable size, though all four of these countries suffer
the disadvantage of only being able to build two units a turn, which
presumably can become important as the game goes on and powers are capable
of taking many centres in a turn.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.
Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a
good offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early
leader syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the
first year (if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4
and Peru's 3. As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I
don't think his position is any worse than a Russia with England and
Turkey looking at him with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of
deft play could see Peru repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is
stalled in the north with the remaining fleet and army. Another build
could see that flank becoming increasingly secure.


In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and
above, which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the
case of an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one
centre they can claim without contest. With two, you basically have to
guess whether or not to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not.
I think in the average game, the starting differences in size are more
likely to magnify rather than equalise.


Hopefully that's helped!

Ross


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Subject: NNIGTFML - Game End - Solo!
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
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Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama"
everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary.
Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!

What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America
will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll
capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand".
"Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco

A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)

A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)

A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)

A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul

F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador

A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz

A Salta Hold

A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)

A Trujillo Supports F Lima


Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas





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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - Kenshi777   (Mar 17, 2010, 11:09 am)
sounds like an argentine solo to me - once those zombie llamas are on
the march, there's no stopping them...unless someone built the special
Milla Jovovich "Alice" unit?

B.

On 3/17/10, Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com> wrote:

Argentina raises all the dead llamas and takes over the world with Zombie
llama cavalry.





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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 11:47:32 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

you can't adjudicate yet: you don't have Paraguay's orders!

--Alan Farrington

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Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:26:51 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
To: jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com;
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Are you excited??
273 is today! Don't miss out on the fun...
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________________________________
From: Michael Sims
Sent: Fri 3/12/2010 3:25 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


Votes are in!

2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got
To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first
solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just
moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas



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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - Githraine   (Mar 17, 2010, 11:01 am)
Argentina raises all the dead llamas and takes over the world with Zombie llama cavalry.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 11:47:32 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

you can't adjudicate yet: you don't have Paraguay's orders!

--Alan Farrington

Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:26:51 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
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From: Michael Sims
Sent: Fri 3/12/2010 3:25 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


Votes are in!

2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas






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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 17, 2010, 10:58 am)
Hm.
I'd say I have about as many Paraguayan orders as you'll have centers left after this round... Wink
-mike



From: Alan Farrington [mailto:alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com]
Sent: Wed 3/17/2010 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


you can't adjudicate yet: you don't have Paraguay's orders!

--Alan Farrington

Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:26:51 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net

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273 is today! Don't miss out on the fun...
-mike



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Fri 3/12/2010 3:25 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


Votes are in!

2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas






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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 17, 2010, 10:48 am)
you can't adjudicate yet: you don't have Paraguay's orders!

--Alan Farrington

Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:26:51 -0500
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
To: jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

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273 is today! Don't miss out on the fun...
-mike



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Fri 3/12/2010 3:25 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


Votes are in!

2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas





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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - Kenshi777   (Mar 14, 2010, 5:25 pm)
lol at "Rufus"

B.

On 3/14/10, Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com> wrote:


*Facepalm*



I mean Gregory, obviously. Sorry, I'm in another game with a guy called
Gary and got the two names mixed up. Well, they start and end the same,
it's just the troublesome middle bit that got me confused.



Rufus



...wait...









Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:33:59 -0600
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com;
jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com;
githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu;
fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com







Who is Gary and how is he controlling Greg?



From: Packrat [mailto:brn2dip-at-yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: Ross Webb; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; Michael Sims;
jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; Jason K;
jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se;
blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)



My apologies - I NEVER meant to imply that this was not a good
win. Gary did an excellent job of playing the players as well as the
game and that's generally how you win. No hard feelings at all.






From: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net;
jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>;
screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com;
gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com;
dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:20:25 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Easy gents,

It's a game, remember? If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo
is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it. Why not
add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a
few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south? Or Venezuela
and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked
together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together?

Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed. This is
a good win.

Ross




Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net;
jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com;
githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu;
fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com;
dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com


Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.






From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack
McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben
Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes
<jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik
Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross
Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.



Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net;
jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com;
githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu;
fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com;
dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com


YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.






From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack
McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben
Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes
<jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik
Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross
Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that
again?

--Alan



Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com;
screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com;
Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com;
fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com;
dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

It could HAVE been stopped long ago.








From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf
<cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K
<githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com;
Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com;
fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com;
dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


Votes are in!



2-way draw?



Bah!



That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got
To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first
solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?



Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.

(Paraguay can take this turn off)



There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just
moved it there.



Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul



Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica



Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima



Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)



Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas










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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - rodtheworm   (Mar 14, 2010, 1:21 pm)
*Facepalm*

I mean Gregory, obviously. Sorry, I'm in another game with a guy called Gary and got the two names mixed up. Well, they start and end the same, it's just the troublesome middle bit that got me confused.

Rufus

...wait...




Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:33:59 -0600
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

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Who is Gary and how is he controlling Greg?

From: Packrat [mailto:brn2dip-at-yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: Ross Webb; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; Michael Sims; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; Jason K; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)



My apologies - I NEVER meant to imply that this was not a good
win. Gary did an excellent job of playing the players as well as the
game and that's generally how you win. No hard feelings at all.



From: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:20:25 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Easy gents,

It's a game, remember? If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it. Why not add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south? Or Venezuela and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together?

Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed. This is a good win.

Ross


Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
It could HAVE been stopped long ago.




From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Votes are in!



2-way draw?



Bah!



That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?



Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.

(Paraguay can take this turn off)



There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.



Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul



Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica



Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima



Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)



Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas













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[Reply]

(DC-273 Thread) - evapollo88   (Mar 14, 2010, 12:27 pm)
Yeah, but Gary is always spot on with his orders, so...

- Grary

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:21 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:


So, waitaminute... Are we starting the EoGs now? I mean, as far as I can tell, there's still a snowball's chance in hell that Greg will NMR or otherwise screw up his orders.


Andy
 
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/


From: Gregory Olson <olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com ([email]olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com[/email])>


Oh man. Apparently the trick here is convincing everyone you are named something different. The hardest decision was definitely attacking you, Alan. We were working very well together, and we had finally turned the tide against Brazil.

- Greg







[Reply]

(DC-273 Thread) - TheWhiteWolf   (Mar 14, 2010, 12:21 pm)
So, waitaminute... Are we starting the EoGs now? I mean, as far as I can tell, there's still a snowball's chance in hell that Greg will NMR or otherwise screw up his orders.


Andy

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/


From: Gregory Olson <olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com>


Oh man. Apparently the trick here is convincing everyone you are named something different. The hardest decision was definitely attacking you, Alan. We were working very well together, and we had finally turned the tide against Brazil.

- Greg

[Reply]

(DC-273 Thread) (dc273) evapollo88 Mar 14, 12:27 pm
Yeah, but Gary is always spot on with his orders, so...

- Grary

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:21 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:


So, waitaminute... Are we starting the EoGs now? I mean, as far as I can tell, there's still a snowball's chance in hell that Greg will NMR or otherwise screw up his orders.


Andy
 
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/


From: Gregory Olson <olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com ([email]olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com[/email])>


Oh man. Apparently the trick here is convincing everyone you are named something different. The hardest decision was definitely attacking you, Alan. We were working very well together, and we had finally turned the tide against Brazil.

- Greg







NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - evapollo88   (Mar 13, 2010, 6:37 pm)
Oh man. Apparently the trick here is convincing everyone you are named something different. The hardest decision was definitely attacking you, Alan. We were working very well together, and we had finally turned the tide against Brazil.

- Greg

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I'm not trying to take the win away from "Gary", I'm merely trying to take the loss away from myself!
Great job Greg, I really thought we had a few more years together against Brazil

--Alan Farrington

Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:33:59 -0600
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])



Who is Gary and how is he controlling Greg?
 
From: Packrat [mailto:brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: Ross Webb; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); Michael Sims; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); Andrew Jameson; screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); Jason K; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); dc273
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)


 
My apologies - I NEVER meant to imply that this was not a good
win.  Gary did an excellent job of playing the players as well as the
game and that's generally how you win.  No hard feelings at all.

 

From: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])>
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:20:25 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Easy gents,
 
It's a game, remember?  If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it.  Why not add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south?  Or Venezuela and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together? 
 
Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed.  This is a good win.
 
Ross
 

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.

 

From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned  you.

 

From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us.  Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
It could HAVE been stopped long ago.
 

 

From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Votes are in!

 

2-way draw? 

 

Bah!

 

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

 

Find out next Wed!  3pm Central.

(Paraguay can take this turn off)

 

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

 

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

 

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

 

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

 

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

 

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas

 

 

 





 

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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 13, 2010, 1:52 pm)
I'm not trying to take the win away from "Gary", I'm merely trying to take the loss away from myself!
Great job Greg, I really thought we had a few more years together against Brazil

--Alan Farrington

Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:33:59 -0600
From: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

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Who is Gary and how is he controlling Greg?

From: Packrat [mailto:brn2dip-at-yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: Ross Webb; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; Michael Sims; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; Jason K; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)



My apologies - I NEVER meant to imply that this was not a good
win. Gary did an excellent job of playing the players as well as the
game and that's generally how you win. No hard feelings at all.



From: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:20:25 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Easy gents,

It's a game, remember? If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it. Why not add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south? Or Venezuela and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together?

Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed. This is a good win.

Ross


Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
It could HAVE been stopped long ago.




From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Votes are in!



2-way draw?



Bah!



That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?



Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.

(Paraguay can take this turn off)



There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.



Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul



Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica



Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima



Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)



Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas













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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 13, 2010, 11:31 am)
Who is Gary and how is he controlling Greg?

From: Packrat [mailto:brn2dip-at-yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: Ross Webb; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; Michael Sims; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; Jason K; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)



My apologies - I NEVER meant to imply that this was not a good
win. Gary did an excellent job of playing the players as well as the
game and that's generally how you win. No hard feelings at all.



From: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:20:25 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Easy gents,

It's a game, remember? If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it. Why not add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south? Or Venezuela and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together?

Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed. This is a good win.

Ross


Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.



From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
It could HAVE been stopped long ago.




From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
Votes are in!



2-way draw?



Bah!



That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?



Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.

(Paraguay can take this turn off)



There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.



Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul



Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica



Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima



Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)



Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas













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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - packrat   (Mar 13, 2010, 10:05 am)
My apologies - I NEVER meant to imply that this was not a good
win. Gary did an excellent job of playing the players as well as the
game and that's generally how you win. No hard feelings at all.


From: Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>
To: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:20:25 AM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Easy gents,

It's a game, remember? If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it. Why not add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south? Or Venezuela and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together?

Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed. This is a good win.

Ross

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} It could HAVE been stopped long ago.



From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

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2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas








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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - rodtheworm   (Mar 13, 2010, 6:20 am)
Easy gents,

It's a game, remember? If you really want to point fingers, almost any solo is the fault of everyone else for not banding together to stop it. Why not add Fredrik to your list for sending lots of units north for the sake of a few Venezuelan centres when the real threat was in the south? Or Venezuela and me for not promising to hold back while Bolivia and Brazil worked together against the Chile-Paraguay alliance while it was still together?

Gary's played a good game and his stab for the solo was well timed. This is a good win.

Ross

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:18:48 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {;} Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {;} YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {;} It could HAVE been stopped long ago.



From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

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2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas








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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - TheWhiteWolf   (Mar 12, 2010, 9:23 pm)
Alan's got a point (other than the one on the top of his head). If you can get up here before I completely collapse, you're free to steal my centers out from under Fredrik's nose. ;o)

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])>
To: Greg Olson <olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com ([email]olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:15:31 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

I just melt when a Bears Tight End gives me a smile and a wink. My centers are yours centers Greg.


Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:08:56 -0500
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
From: olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com ([email]olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com[/email])
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])
CC: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com;[/email]) mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net;[/email]) jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com;[/email]) cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com;[/email]) screwtape777-at-gmail.com; ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com;[/email]) githraine-at-yahoo.com; ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com;[/email]) jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com;[/email]) gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu;[/email]) fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se;[/email]) blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com;[/email]) rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com;[/email]) dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])

I personally think it was my smile. Thanks for a great game, everyone. Sorry for the bad stabs I gave.

- Greg

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])


YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])

It could HAVE been stopped long ago.



From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Votes are in!

2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas








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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - packrat   (Mar 12, 2010, 8:18 pm)
Sure did - fine bit of good it did you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 9:03:46 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} It could HAVE been stopped long ago.



From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu; alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

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2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas








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NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!) - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 12, 2010, 8:15 pm)
I just melt when a Bears Tight End gives me a smile and a wink. My centers are yours centers Greg.


Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:08:56 -0500
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
From: olson.gregoryscott-at-gmail.com
To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com
CC: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com; mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net; jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com; cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com; screwtape777-at-gmail.com; githraine-at-yahoo.com; jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com; gregory_olson-at-brown.edu; fredrik-at-familjenblom.se; blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com; rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com

I personally think it was my smile. Thanks for a great game, everyone. Sorry for the bad stabs I gave.

- Greg

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Its easy to point fingers.. but I got my moves in.

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

To: alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])


YOU set us down this course when you opted to work with
Chile and leave Bolivia dangling alone.

I warned you.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Ben Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Jim Hoyes <jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Greg Olson <gregory_olson-at-brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson-at-brown.edu[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email])>; Fredrik Blom <blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Ross Webb <rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email])>; dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 8:12:42 PM
Subject: RE: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Yeah, that Bolivian NMR was the end for all of us. Who's to blame for that again?

--Alan

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:33:43 -0800
From: brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)
To: mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email]); cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email]); screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email]); githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])

It could HAVE been stopped long ago.



From: Michael Sims <mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike-at-fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr-at-gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777-at-gmail.com ([email]screwtape777-at-gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine-at-yahoo.com ([email]githraine-at-yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip-at-yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip-at-yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount-at-gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson-at-brown.edu[/email]); alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990-at-hotmail.com[/email]); fredrik-at-familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik-at-familjenblom.se[/email]); blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com ([email]blom.fredrik-at-gmail.com[/email]); rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com ([email]rodtheworm-at-hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273-at-diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 4:25:17 PM
Subject: NNIGTSMBLF? (s46 results!)

Votes are in!

2-way draw?

Bah!

That's right, this game is henceforth to be remembered as Not Now, I've Got To Stab My Brazillian Llama Friend... as Chile makes a move to get his first solo in seven years of play here at diplomaticcorp... Can it be stopped?

Find out next Wed! 3pm Central.
(Paraguay can take this turn off)

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Mar could only go to Sam so I just moved it there.

Brasil:
A Angostura Supports A Orinoco - Barinas
F Boca de Navios - Golfo de Paria
F Bahia Sao Marcos - Boca de Navios
A Iquitos Hold
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Maracaibo - Caracas (*Dislodged*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco - Barinas
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul
A Rio Branco - Orinoco
A Rio Grande do Sul Hold
A Santa Cruz Hold
A Sao Paulo Supports A Rio Grande do Sul

Chile:
A Antofagasta - Potosi
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica
A Asuncion Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
F Bahia de Arica Hold
F Bahia de Paranagua - Bahia Todos os Santos
A Concepcion Supports A Formosa - Chaco
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Formosa - Chaco
F Montevideo Supports A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Potosi - La Paz
F Rio de la Plata - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Fe - Misiones
A Tucuman - Salta
F Valparaiso - South Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean Supports F Bahia de Arica

Colombia:
F Bahia Sechura Hold
A Cartagena - Panama
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
A Guapore - Aquiris
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Hold
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Paraguay:
A Chaco - Pantanal (*Disbanded*)

Venezuela:
A Barinas - Maracaibo
A Caracas Supports A Barinas - Maracaibo
F Cumana Supports A Caracas








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