| DC 103 TONIGHT - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
GOBBLE GOBBLE
ITS TONIGHT[Reply] |
| Real Newbie. Am I welcome? - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi,
Just found the Diplomacy board game a few months ago but am now so addicted I'm driving my friends and family mad! Id love to play against some of you guys but I really don't know how to play online. Am I still welcome (I don't want to ruin a game) and if so how do I play?
Thanks
Andy[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Andy
You've taken the first step! We have a good mixture of new and old players here so dont fret too much.
The first thing to do is to click on the OPEN GAMES link on the www.diplomaticcorp.com site and pick the game you want to play - the click sign up.
If you have any more questions, post here or drop an email to me at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Steve.[Reply] |
| My Bad - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Our most recent new player has never played Dip before.
My bad for not checking first.
Recruting open again.
Jason
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| Back on again - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Ok, we have a new seafolk player, a good solid DC veteran many of you may know.
I would like to give Jorge a few days to communicate and then we will be on.
So I am extending the first deadline from Monday to Wednesday Nov 28th (at) 9pm Eastcoast US time.
I am officaily dubbing this game NITS (Nearly ImpossibleToStart), Thanks Trout.
Here is the updated player list.
GAME ON!!!!
Here are our players and their Nations:
Nation Diplomaticcorp ID RL Name E-Mail Address
Borderlands Wardus Sean Ward wardus2274(at)hotmail.com ([email]wardus2274(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Eastlands Presto Tim Miller thewizard.tim(at)gmail.com ([email]thewizard.tim(at)gmail.com[/email])
Westlands Deathblade_penguin Stephen Lytton stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Midlands flowerpet56 John Strain flowerpet56(at)yahoo.com ([email]flowerpet56(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Southlands former.trout None former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
Whitecloaks felix388 Felix KamChung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email])
Sea Folk txurce Jorge Saralegui jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])
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| Welcome - hell, you can date my sister! - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Andy...
You are more than welcome. Hope to see you in the mix of things. =)
Trout[Reply] |
| To Heir is Human: s01 results! - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I’m sure you’ve been checkin your mail every 10 min since 2… but holidays and all ya know…  Happy Thanksgiving to all, and here’s some results for ya…
Great start! Can’t wait to see what happens next… Actually been a long time since I’ve seen France & Germany bounce in Burgundy. And what’s that in the Black Sea?
Next deadline: Fall ’01, Friday 11/30, 2pm Pacific.
If all 7 send in orders marked “final” I’ll adjudicate early… keep that in mind as you go, if you want to speed things along. Otherwise know I’ll never adjudicate early, deadlines will always be 1 week apart, and definitely encourage prelims from all, you can always change them up to the deadline.
Enjoy!
-mike
Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Trieste
England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F London - North Sea
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Spain
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Apulia
A Venice Hold
Russia:
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Sevastopol - Rumania
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Livonia
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Armenia[Reply] |
| Game Updates!! Pay attentions!! - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Fellow Dippers!! Here are your warnings!!
My mail program thinks I'm a spammer!
So I have to cut down on the amount
of warnings to send out! Less it prevents
me from Adjudicating!!
This will be the only warning you will get!!
THESE ARE ON MONDAY!!
ALL ABS::
FALL 1912, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
STRAIGHT UP::
FALL 1901 MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
MODERN MADNESS::
FALL 2000 MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
FAST AND FURIOUS::
RETREATS, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
DC 132:: DOUBLE DUTCH DABBLE
SPRING 1902, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
THESE ARE ON TUESDAY!!
KINGLY KINGS::
SPRING 1903, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
DC 111
SPRING 1907, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH 23.59 EDT GMT-5
PG8::YYZ:: PEARSONS
FALL 1903, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH, 23.59 EDT GMT-5[Reply] |
| Points - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
| How are points awarded at the end of a game. For instance is it better to be part of a 5 way draw or to be second in a solo win??? [Reply] |
| Diplomaticcorp - Latest Variant Games Up For Actio... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Jim Morrison once said "... real poetry doesn't say anything; it just ticks off the possibilities. Opens all doors. You can walk through anyone that suits you." With that in mind, we here is the amazingly poetic selection of games currently recruiting for players at DC:
re005 - Hugh Polley's Engineer Variant. This groovey little game is set on a standard map but includes the possibility of building engineers to tinker with and enhance your power's forces. Unlike the real world though, these engineers manage to do the work without the chaos or confusion - or giant mounds of paperwork. =)
re004 - Our fearless Deathblade Penguin once again steps into the frey, running a Deluge game. Set on a standard map, each turn another province (or provinces) falls under the rising ocean waters and disappears from the board. This one's a real scramble for high ground...
re003 - A game of the Youngstown variant - run by The Gentleman, Alex Schmidt. Tried, tested and true - this game has always been a crowd favorite.
re002 - Fall Of The American Empire - helmed by some fishy character. One of the few variants out there set on the North American map. Gives you the chance to show those Canadian hosers where to stick their hockey pucks.. =P
re001 - As always, this one is a vanilla dip standard game. GM to be determined. We have four players in already and just need three more for this puppy to launch.
With those choices, there's a lot of bang for your DC buck. Hope to see you on the boards!!
Trout[Reply] |
| Merits vs. Player Rankings - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
At DC there's now two different points system.
[u:28a974a09a]Player Ratings[/u:28a974a09a] - This rates how well you do in the games that you play. Your rating goes up the most if you solo, less if you are part of a draw and the least amount if you eke out a survival.
If someone solos then all other players lose. The loss points are distributed among them. Therefore, it is much better to be part of a draw than to be second place when someone solos. (IMHO there actually IS no second place if someone solos - but that is only an opinion.)
[u:28a974a09a]Charter Of The Companion Merits [/u:28a974a09a]- This is a gauge of how active you are in the club. You get 10 Merits for every game GM'd, and from 5 - 8 Merits for every game played to the end.
With the Merits, the only difference between soloing and drawing is that you get 8 Merits for a solo win and 6 Merits for being included in the draw. However, even if you are eliminated, you get 5 Merits provided that you played the position to the bitter end.
Hope that makes sense at all. Just let us know if it doesn't.
Trout[Reply] |
| Re: Points - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
How are points awarded at the end of a game. For instance is it better to be part of a 5 way draw or to be second in a solo win???
It is much better to be part of a 5-way draw than second to a solo win, cuz second to a solo win is a loss! Drawing is much better than losing... a 5-way draw would earn around 2-3 points (not much) but 2nd to a solo win would probly net you a small loss instead.
-mike[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
| In the list of 'variants' some seem to be broken links. Also, all links seem to be adding a \ instead of a / to the link address. This is causing some of the problems, but isn't (for example) the problem with a variant rules for Deluge - which are unviewable. [Reply] |
| DC-114 Fall 1905 - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
There was 1 disband (Army North Africa) and 2 retreats:
A St. Pete can retreat to Moscow or OTB
A Trieste can retreat to Tyrollia or OTB
Retreats are due in 48 hours. Website is updated.
[u:abb52f2bde]Russia[/u:abb52f2bde]
F Berlin-->Kiel (Bounce 1:1)
A Galacia-->Silesia
A Vienna S Turkish A Serbia-->Trieste
F Rumania-->Bulgaria
A Livonia S A St. Pete (Cut)
A St. Pete S A Finland-->Norway (Cut; Dislodged 2:1)
A Finland-->Norway (Bounce 1:1)
[u:abb52f2bde]France[/u:abb52f2bde]
A (Burgundy) - munich
A (Piedmont) - Tuscany (Bounce 1:1)
A (North Africa) - Stand (Dislodged 2:1; Disbanded)
F (Middle Atl. Ocean) -s- F (spain)sc - Western Med. Sea
F (Marsellies) - Gulf of Lyons
F (Spain)sc - Western Med. Sea
[u:abb52f2bde]Turkey[/u:abb52f2bde]
A Budapest --> S (A Serbia --> Trieste)
A Serbia --> Trieste
A Bulgaria --> Serbia
F Albania --> Adriatic Sea/
F Tunisia --> S (Italy: F West Mediterranean --> North Africa)
F Ionian Sea --> Tythennian Sea
Italy
Fleet Western Mediterranean-North Africa
Army Tuscany-Venice (Fails 1:1)
Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea-Naples
[u:abb52f2bde]Austria[/u:abb52f2bde]
A Trieste hold (Dislodged 3:1)
F Venice s A Trieste hold (Cut)
[u:abb52f2bde]England[/u:abb52f2bde]
F Baltic Sea Convoys A Kiel - Livonia
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
F Belgium Hold
F Helgoland Bight - Kiel (Bounce 1:1)
A Kiel - Livonia (Fails 1:1)
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Norway
A Norway - St Petersburg
F Sweden - Finland (Bounce 1:1)
A Yorkshire - Norway (Bounce 1:1)
John Soper[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I think Trout's looking for a plainly posted deadline on the game's page, a-la...
-=> FALL 1903 DEADLINE: NOVEMBER 29, 1800 GTM <=-
kind-a thing.
Maybe a banner line the GM can post to that will be bold and a little larger that sits right over, or under the map image?[Reply] |
| upcoming deadlines - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Here we go after the Holiday weekend...
dc122 (Ancient Art of War in Fog) - Tuesday (tomorrow!)
dc109 (Ancient World) and dc118 (Dark Side of the Fog) - Wednesday
dc099 (Seismic) - Thursday
dc133 (To Heir is Human) - Friday
This is the only warning to be sent for all 5 games!
-mike[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
/in please.
I've played 3 or 4 Diplomacy games before on another forum, but this is my first one here.[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
/in please.
I've played 3 or 4 Diplomacy games before on another forum, but this is my first one here.
Hiya!
Diplomaticcorp.com actually uses email for communication between players rather than a forum, and then after each turn the results are displayed on a graphical map for that game.
If you'd like to join a new game (this one has been running for a couple of weeks or so already), you can go to the front page of the site, and click on the "Open Games" link at the top.
Game re001 (always second from the top) will always be a "basic" game, or if you have some experience and want to try one of the variants, there are usually several of those to choose from as well.[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
oh, ok, thanks!
Sorry, it's all a little confusing at first, but I guess I'll soon get the hang of it. I'll go join a new game then!
Thank you![Reply] |
| DDD:: SPRING 1902 RESULTS!! - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Here lies on the fun! The fun the intrigue
of it all!!
We have one retreat from Germany.
due in 24 hours.
November 27th, 23.59 EDT GMT-5
Thank You.
Fleet Holland to retreat.
Fall 1902 due Monday
December 3 Â 23.59 EDT GMT-5
As submitted::
TURKEY:;
A: Bul - S A Rum - xxx
A: Con - Smy
F: Smy - Aeg
F: Ank - Bla
AUSTRIA::
Orders Austria Spring 1902 are:
 A Vie - Tyr
A Tri S A Vie - Tyr
F Gre S (Turkish) F Smy - AEG
A Bud - Vie
A Ser - Bud
A Rum - xxx
GERMANY::
[u:0c08f5c4da]Germany's Moves[/u:0c08f5c4da]
A mun->bur
A kie->ber
A ber->mun
Rest hold
ITALY::
A Ven S A Mun - Trl
F Ion - Adr
F Nap - Ion
A Tun HOLD
FRANCE::
F MAO-Brest
A Marseille-Burgundy
A Paris S A Marseille-Burgundy
A Spain-XXX
RUSSIA:;
F Swe - Nwy
A StP - Mos
A War - Gal
A Ukr S A War - Gal
F Sev - Rum
ENGLAND::
A Bel-Hol
F Nth S A Bel-Hol
 A Lon-Bel
F Eng C A Lon-Bel
As adjudicated::
Results for Spring, 1902 (Movement)
General Notices:Order resolution completed on 26-Nov-2007 at 20:49:54 PST
Order Results:Austria:
Austria: A bud -> vie
Austria: F gre Supports F smy -> aeg
Austria: A rum Holds
Austria: A ser -> bud
Austria: A tri Supports A vie -> tyr
Austria: A vie -> tyr
England:
England: A bel -> hol
England: F eng Convoys A lon -> bel
England: A lon -> bel
Convoy path taken: lon→eng→bel.
England: F nth Supports A bel -> hol
France:
France: A mar -> bur
France: F mao -> bre
France: A par Supports A mar -> bur
France: A spa Holds
Germany:
[u:0c08f5c4da]Germany: A ber -> mun[/u:0c08f5c4da]
Failed because Germany: A mun -> bur failed.
Germany: A den Holds
[u:0c08f5c4da]Germany: F hol Holds[/u:0c08f5c4da]
Dislodged from bel (2 against 1).
[u:0c08f5c4da]Germany: A kie -> ber[/u:0c08f5c4da]
Failed because Germany: A ber -> mun failed.
[u:0c08f5c4da]Germany: A mun -> bur[/u:0c08f5c4da]
Bounced with mar (1 against 1).
Italy:
Italy: F ion -> adr
Italy: F nap -> ion
Italy: A tun Holds
[u:0c08f5c4da]Italy: A ven Supports A mun -> tyr[/u:0c08f5c4da]
Support failed. Supported unit's order does not match support given.
Russia:
[u:0c08f5c4da]Russia: F sev -> rum[/u:0c08f5c4da]
Bounced with rum (1 against 2).
Russia: A stp -> mos
Russia: F swe -> nwy
Russia: A ukr Supports A war -> gal
Russia: A war -> gal
Turkey:
Turkey: F ank -> bla
Turkey: A bul Supports A rum
Turkey: A con -> smy
Turkey: F smy -> aeg[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Well, I've taken the plunge and joined a game. Just got to wait for it to begin. Thanks for the support lads.
PT[Reply] |
| most important to the rest of us - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I think the most important thing you can do as a newbie is stay throughout the whole game. It is very frustrating when people come in and play a couple of turns and then drop out.
Clagr2[Reply] |
| FOG info - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
So what do ppl think. Thus far w the FOW3’s my first impression is to try FOW4 starting gunboat and only negotiate w who you discover. But some have mentioned an aversion to such…
The concept of gunboat diplomacy is you can see all the units but you can’t diplome. In fog, you can’t see your enemies, but you can diplome. So to deprive one of both vision and diplomacy… well what have you got left but some random chance orders? It’s not Diplomacy at that point.
I think I’m leaning back toward having fow4 when it launches, be open diplomacy… Otherwise what’s the point of an 18-player game, if you can only ever negotiate w your 3 or 4 adjacent neighbors that you meet? There has to be some mechanism to encounter other players, so that you can negotiate w ppl a few nations away… For example we all know that although E/T are rarely adjacent, they always have plenty to discuss in the standard game.
-mike[Reply] |
| FOG info - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Well..first of all, I'm a fan. Its add a very challenging wrinkle to hide the map. I like the idea that you don't know who is who, until you meet them...but can also see you point.
How about THIS for a mechanism. You have to go out and meet you neighbors (sure, some chance involved here--like Age of Empires). Only when you are Adjacent to their unit to you or them have the OPTION of exchanging email address. Then, once your neighbor knows who you are...he/she is free to pass on that info.
I really think this will work. You can horde up all your intel..or chose to barter it out for more intell like people do with maps now. There could even be quite a lot of creative misdirection....
You could call it Fog of War: Caveman Era. Only communications with those you meet....
Fletcher
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: variants(at)diplomaticcorp.com; caleb.edwards(at)utoronto.ca; Christopher Lockheardt <clockheardt(at)yahoo.com>; dc122(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Derek eyler <derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com>; diplomaticcorp(at)yahoogroups.com; Isaac Zinner <isaac.zinner(at)gmail.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mgdip(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; Trent Woodruff <afretired(at)charter.net>; dc118(at)diplomaticcorp.com; eric.grinnell(at)yahoo.com; Felix Kam Chung <felixkamchung(at)mac.com>; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Garry.Bledsoe(at)alltel.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; catsfather(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; rjroddayjr(at)yahoo.com; tfletch33(at)yahoo.com; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:57:08 AM
Subject: FOG info
So what do ppl think. Thus far w the FOW3’s my first impression is to try FOW4 starting gunboat and only negotiate w who you discover. But some have mentioned an aversion to such…
The concept of gunboat diplomacy is you can see all the units but you can’t diplome. In fog, you can’t see your enemies, but you can diplome. So to deprive one of both vision and diplomacy… well what have you got left but some random chance orders? It’s not Diplomacy at that point.
I think I’m leaning back toward having fow4 when it launches, be open diplomacy… Otherwise what’s the point of an 18-player game, if you can only ever negotiate w your 3 or 4 adjacent neighbors that you meet? There has to be some mechanism to encounter other players, so that you can negotiate w ppl a few nations away… For example we all know that although E/T are rarely adjacent, they always have plenty to discuss in the standard game.
-mike[Reply] |
| FOG info - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I only replied to Mike, but essentially I'm with Fletcher.
Warren
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:05:23 -0800
From: tfletch33(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: FOG info
To: mike(at)southwall.com; variants(at)diplomaticcorp.com; caleb.edwards(at)utoronto.ca; clockheardt(at)yahoo.com; dc122(at)diplomaticcorp.com; derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com; diplomaticcorp(at)yahoogroups.com; isaac.zinner(at)gmail.com; jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mgdip(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; afretired(at)charter.net; dc118(at)diplomaticcorp.com; eric.grinnell(at)yahoo.com; felixkamchung(at)mac.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Garry.Bledsoe(at)alltel.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; catsfather(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; rjroddayjr(at)yahoo.com; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com
.ExternalClass DIV {;} Well..first of all, I'm a fan. Its add a very challenging wrinkle to hide the map. I like the idea that you don't know who is who, until you meet them...but can also see you point.
How about THIS for a mechanism. You have to go out and meet you neighbors (sure, some chance involved here--like Age of Empires). Only when you are Adjacent to their unit to you or them have the OPTION of exchanging email address. Then, once your neighbor knows who you are...he/she is free to pass on that info.
I really think this will work. You can horde up all your intel..or chose to barter it out for more intell like people do with maps now. There could even be quite a lot of creative misdirection....
You could call it Fog of War: Caveman Era. Only communications with those you meet....
Fletcher
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: variants(at)diplomaticcorp.com; caleb.edwards(at)utoronto.ca; Christopher Lockheardt <clockheardt(at)yahoo.com>; dc122(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Derek eyler <derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com>; diplomaticcorp(at)yahoogroups.com; Isaac Zinner <isaac.zinner(at)gmail.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mgdip(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; Trent Woodruff <afretired(at)charter.net>; dc118(at)diplomaticcorp.com; eric.grinnell(at)yahoo.com; Felix Kam Chung <felixkamchung(at)mac.com>; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Garry.Bledsoe(at)alltel.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; catsfather(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; rjroddayjr(at)yahoo.com; tfletch33(at)yahoo.com; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:57:08 AM
Subject: FOG info
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So what do ppl think. Thus far w the FOW3’s my first impression is to try FOW4 starting gunboat and only negotiate w who you discover. But some have mentioned an aversion to such…
The concept of gunboat diplomacy is you can see all the units but you can’t diplome. In fog, you can’t see your enemies, but you can diplome. So to deprive one of both vision and diplomacy… well what have you got left but some random chance orders? It’s not Diplomacy at that point.
I think I’m leaning back toward having fow4 when it launches, be open diplomacy… Otherwise what’s the point of an 18-player game, if you can only ever negotiate w your 3 or 4 adjacent neighbors that you meet? There has to be some mechanism to encounter other players, so that you can negotiate w ppl a few nations away… For example we all know that although E/T are rarely adjacent, they always have plenty to discuss in the standard game.
-mike
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