| DC397 Spring 1905 Results - politesociety (Dec 15, 2011, 6:48 am) |
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| DC397 Fall 1904 Results - politesociety (Dec 09, 2011, 3:42 pm) |
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| DC397 Fall 1904 Results - politesociety (Dec 07, 2011, 5:19 pm) |
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| DC397 Fall 1904 Results (dc397) politesociety Dec 09, 03:42 pm |
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| DC397 Spring 1904 Results - politesociety (Nov 30, 2011, 8:30 pm) |
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| Spring 1904 results delayed - politesociety (Nov 29, 2011, 11:10 pm) |
Hi all,
I'm on a business trip right now and having some issues with Real Politik (and am buried with work)
I will get results out tomorrow night (Wed. 11/30)
There are no NMRs for this round. No worries.
I apologize for the delay.
Eric[Reply] |
| DC397 Winter 1903 (builds/removals) - politesociety (Nov 23, 2011, 2:37 pm) |
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| FALL 1903 Results! - politesociety (Nov 21, 2011, 5:35 pm) |
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| DC397 Spring 1903 Results - politesociety (Nov 14, 2011, 5:30 pm) |
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| DC397 - Fall 1902 Results - politesociety (Nov 10, 2011, 8:58 am) |
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| DC397 - Fall 1902 Results - politesociety (Nov 09, 2011, 12:35 pm) |
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| DC397 - Fall 1902 Results - politesociety (Nov 08, 2011, 7:50 am) |
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| DC397 - Fall 1902 Results (dc397) politesociety Nov 09, 12:35 pm |
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| DC397 - Fall 1902 Results (dc397) politesociety Nov 10, 08:58 am |
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| DC-397 Summer 1902 Results - politesociety (Nov 03, 2011, 1:52 pm) |
Retreat to London.
Fall 1902 due Monday, Nov. 7 at 10 PM (22:00) GMT
Eric[Reply] |
| DC397 - Spring 1902 Results - politesociety (Oct 31, 2011, 6:41 pm) |
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| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - politesociety (Oct 28, 2011, 12:46 pm) |
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| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - JosephF (Oct 27, 2011, 8:30 pm) |
*Our* wacky time zomes!? Why, it's still yesterday for you! Australia:
Moving Forwards. (its a politics reference, James will get it)
On 28/10/2011, Gerry Bayer wrote:
I blame the Australians and their wacky time zones !
Good thing it's a long way from Australia to Canada...
Gerry
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Matt O'Donnell wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I do take responsibility for not noticing or notifying Eric about the
> error
> sooner. I lost computer access over the weekend & and so didn't have an
> opportunity to look over the results and talk to him about it.
>
> I do apologize for the inconvenience
>
> Matt
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Sims
> *To:* Gerry Bayer ; Gareth Griffiths gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Eric Palmer ; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com;
> flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com;
> james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397 ; Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:44 PM
> *Subject:* RE: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for
> Winter/Spring 1902
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Interesting there. I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs
> fixing. "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and
> fall. "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter
> adjustments. Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just
> phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to
> diplome
> on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds. The
> intent
> there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one
> wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the
> results of substantial negotiations.
>
> As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so
> whatever Eric decides is fine w me.
>
> I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of
> that being pointed out...
>
> Your friendly mod,
> -mike
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
> *To:* Gareth Griffiths
> *Cc:* Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com;
> gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397;
> Michael Sims
> *Subject:* Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for
> Winter/Spring 1902
>
> I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good
> point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this
> occur again .
>
> Gerry
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> **
> Hi all,
>
> *I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring* as I think it
> will make the game more interesting.
>
> However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error
> should have stood:
>
> *'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM
> before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will
> stand.'*
>
> I'm only bringing this up *in case* there's an error in future as I think
> we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be
> aware
> of it.
>
> Gareth (Germany)
>
>
> On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
>
> I've made a huge mistake.
>
> *I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.*
>
> Here's what's going to happen:
>
> I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902
> and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
>
> So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
>
> You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build
> orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria
> and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28
> OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I
> receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an
> announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days
> (unless
> anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send
> notice of the deadline with the build results).
>
> I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time
> and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is
> clearly
> unfair for *two *players to be short units they should have been awarded,
> especially at this early point in the game.
>
> While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please
> bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.
>
> - Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
>
> *Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.*
>
> Austria:
> F Albania - Greece
> A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
> A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
>
> England:
> A Edinburgh - Norway
> F London - English Channel
> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
>
> France:
> F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
> A Gascony - Spain
> A Spain - Portugal
>
> Germany:
> F Denmark Hold
> A Kiel - Holland
> A Ruhr - Belgium
>
> *Italy: *
> *A Apulia - Tunis*
> *F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis*
> *A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)*
>
> Russia:
> A Galicia - Budapest
> F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
> F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
> A Ukraine - Rumania
>
> Turkey:
> F Ankara Hold
> A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
> A Constantinople - Smyrna
>
> BUILDS:
> *Austria 1*
> England 1
> France 2
> Germany 3
> *Italy 1*
> Russia 3
> Turkey 1
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Joseph F.[Reply] |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - ruler462 (Oct 27, 2011, 2:42 pm) |
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| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - gizmo8204 (Oct 27, 2011, 12:50 pm) |
Hey all,
I do take responsibility for not noticing or notifying Eric about the error sooner. I lost computer access over the weekend & and so didn't have an opportunity to look over the results and talk to him about it.
I do apologize for the inconvenience
Matt
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: Gerry Bayer
<starhop8(at)gmail.com>; Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397 <dc397(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902
Hey guys,
Interesting there. I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs fixing. "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and fall. "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter adjustments. Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to diplome on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds. The intent there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the results of substantial negotiations.
As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so whatever Eric decides is fine w me.
I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of that being pointed out...
Your friendly mod,
-mike
From: Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
To: Gareth Griffiths
Cc: Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397; Michael Sims
Subject: Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902
I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this occur again .
Gerry
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I think it will make the game more interesting.
However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error should have stood:
'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will stand.'
I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be aware of it.
Gareth (Germany)
On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
I've made a huge mistake.
I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.
Here's what's going to happen:
I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the build results).
I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this early point in the game.
While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.
- Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Spain
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
BUILDS:
Austria 1
England 1
France 2
Germany 3
Italy 1
Russia 3
Turkey 1[Reply] |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - FuzzyLogic (Oct 27, 2011, 11:44 am) |
Hey guys,
Interesting there. I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs fixing. "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and fall. "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter adjustments. Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to diplome on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds. The intent there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the results of substantial negotiations.
As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so whatever Eric decides is fine w me.
I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of that being pointed out...
Your friendly mod,
-mike
From: Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
To: Gareth Griffiths
Cc: Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397; Michael Sims
Subject: Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902
I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this occur again .
Gerry
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I think it will make the game more interesting.
However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error should have stood:
'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will stand.'
I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be aware of it.
Gareth (Germany)
On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
I've made a huge mistake.
I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.
Here's what's going to happen:
I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the build results).
I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this early point in the game.
While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.
- Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Spain
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
BUILDS:
Austria 1
England 1
France 2
Germany 3
Italy 1
Russia 3
Turkey 1[Reply] |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - ruler462 (Oct 27, 2011, 11:36 am) |
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| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - MagDox (Oct 27, 2011, 11:29 am) |
Hi all,
I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I
think it will make the game more interesting.
However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the
error should have stood:
'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of
the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else
that error will stand.'
I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future
as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and
everyone should be aware of it.
Gareth (Germany)
On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
I've made a huge mistake.
I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.
Here's what's going to happen:
I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received
for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or
resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time
in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a
confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will
leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive
confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out
an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have
four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new
Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the
build results).
I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the
waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause,
but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to
be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this
early point in the game.
While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the
game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as
early as possible.
- Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Spain
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
BUILDS:
Austria 1
England 1
France 2
Germany 3
Italy 1
Russia 3
Turkey 1[Reply] |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Win... - politesociety (Oct 26, 2011, 9:11 pm) |
[Reply] |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) MagDox Oct 27, 11:29 am |
Hi all,
I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I
think it will make the game more interesting.
However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the
error should have stood:
'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of
the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else
that error will stand.'
I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future
as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and
everyone should be aware of it.
Gareth (Germany)
On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
I've made a huge mistake.
I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.
Here's what's going to happen:
I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received
for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or
resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time
in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a
confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will
leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive
confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out
an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have
four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new
Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the
build results).
I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the
waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause,
but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to
be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this
early point in the game.
While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the
game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as
early as possible.
- Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Spain
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
BUILDS:
Austria 1
England 1
France 2
Germany 3
Italy 1
Russia 3
Turkey 1 |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) ruler462 Oct 27, 11:36 am |
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| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) FuzzyLogic Oct 27, 11:44 am |
Hey guys,
Interesting there. I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs fixing. "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and fall. "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter adjustments. Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to diplome on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds. The intent there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the results of substantial negotiations.
As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so whatever Eric decides is fine w me.
I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of that being pointed out...
Your friendly mod,
-mike
From: Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
To: Gareth Griffiths
Cc: Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397; Michael Sims
Subject: Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902
I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this occur again .
Gerry
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I think it will make the game more interesting.
However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error should have stood:
'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will stand.'
I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be aware of it.
Gareth (Germany)
On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
I've made a huge mistake.
I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.
Here's what's going to happen:
I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the build results).
I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this early point in the game.
While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.
- Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Spain
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
BUILDS:
Austria 1
England 1
France 2
Germany 3
Italy 1
Russia 3
Turkey 1 |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) gizmo8204 Oct 27, 12:50 pm |
Hey all,
I do take responsibility for not noticing or notifying Eric about the error sooner. I lost computer access over the weekend & and so didn't have an opportunity to look over the results and talk to him about it.
I do apologize for the inconvenience
Matt
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: Gerry Bayer
<starhop8(at)gmail.com>; Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397 <dc397(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902
Hey guys,
Interesting there. I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs fixing. "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and fall. "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter adjustments. Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to diplome on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds. The intent there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the results of substantial negotiations.
As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so whatever Eric decides is fine w me.
I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of that being pointed out...
Your friendly mod,
-mike
From: Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
To: Gareth Griffiths
Cc: Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397; Michael Sims
Subject: Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902
I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this occur again .
Gerry
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I think it will make the game more interesting.
However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error should have stood:
'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will stand.'
I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be aware of it.
Gareth (Germany)
On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
I've made a huge mistake.
I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.
Here's what's going to happen:
I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the build results).
I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this early point in the game.
While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.
- Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Spain
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
BUILDS:
Austria 1
England 1
France 2
Germany 3
Italy 1
Russia 3
Turkey 1 |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) ruler462 Oct 27, 02:42 pm |
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| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) JosephF Oct 27, 08:30 pm |
*Our* wacky time zomes!? Why, it's still yesterday for you! Australia:
Moving Forwards. (its a politics reference, James will get it)
On 28/10/2011, Gerry Bayer wrote:
I blame the Australians and their wacky time zones !
Good thing it's a long way from Australia to Canada...
Gerry
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Matt O'Donnell wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I do take responsibility for not noticing or notifying Eric about the
> error
> sooner. I lost computer access over the weekend & and so didn't have an
> opportunity to look over the results and talk to him about it.
>
> I do apologize for the inconvenience
>
> Matt
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Sims
> *To:* Gerry Bayer ; Gareth Griffiths gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Eric Palmer ; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com;
> flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com;
> james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397 ; Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:44 PM
> *Subject:* RE: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for
> Winter/Spring 1902
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Interesting there. I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs
> fixing. "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and
> fall. "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter
> adjustments. Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just
> phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to
> diplome
> on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds. The
> intent
> there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one
> wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the
> results of substantial negotiations.
>
> As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so
> whatever Eric decides is fine w me.
>
> I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of
> that being pointed out...
>
> Your friendly mod,
> -mike
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
> *To:* Gareth Griffiths
> *Cc:* Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com;
> gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397;
> Michael Sims
> *Subject:* Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for
> Winter/Spring 1902
>
> I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good
> point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this
> occur again .
>
> Gerry
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> **
> Hi all,
>
> *I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring* as I think it
> will make the game more interesting.
>
> However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error
> should have stood:
>
> *'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM
> before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will
> stand.'*
>
> I'm only bringing this up *in case* there's an error in future as I think
> we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be
> aware
> of it.
>
> Gareth (Germany)
>
>
> On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:
>
> I've made a huge mistake.
>
> *I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.*
>
> Here's what's going to happen:
>
> I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902
> and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.
>
> So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).
>
> You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build
> orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria
> and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28
> OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I
> receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an
> announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days
> (unless
> anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send
> notice of the deadline with the build results).
>
> I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time
> and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is
> clearly
> unfair for *two *players to be short units they should have been awarded,
> especially at this early point in the game.
>
> While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please
> bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.
>
> - Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)
>
> *Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.*
>
> Austria:
> F Albania - Greece
> A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
> A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)
>
> England:
> A Edinburgh - Norway
> F London - English Channel
> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
>
> France:
> F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
> A Gascony - Spain
> A Spain - Portugal
>
> Germany:
> F Denmark Hold
> A Kiel - Holland
> A Ruhr - Belgium
>
> *Italy: *
> *A Apulia - Tunis*
> *F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis*
> *A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)*
>
> Russia:
> A Galicia - Budapest
> F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
> F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
> A Ukraine - Rumania
>
> Turkey:
> F Ankara Hold
> A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)
> A Constantinople - Smyrna
>
> BUILDS:
> *Austria 1*
> England 1
> France 2
> Germany 3
> *Italy 1*
> Russia 3
> Turkey 1
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Joseph F. |
| DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902 (dc397) politesociety Oct 28, 12:46 pm |
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| Diplomacy - DC397 - GAME ON! - JosephF (Oct 26, 2011, 6:21 pm) |
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| Diplomacy - DC397 - GAME ON! - politesociety (Oct 26, 2011, 4:48 pm) |
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| Diplomacy - DC397 - GAME ON! - PhysicsJM32 (Oct 26, 2011, 3:43 pm) |
I have noticed that the website has not been updated yet, i was just wondering if it will be soon, or if anyone else had noticed. Sorry to bring it up, but it still says next orders due October 19
Sincerely,
James Mayfield
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Production of useful work is limited by the laws of thermodynamics, but the production of useless work seems to be unlimited.
-- Donald Simanek
On 12/10/2011, at 9:27 AM, Gerry Bayer <starhop8(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey no fair , the Australians get 16 more hours than me to place their orders....wait a minute....let me think about that...
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Joseph Fyfield <jsfyfield(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Yep, High Noon for us in Au.
--
Joseph F.[Reply] |
| DC397 WINTER 1901 - BUILDS - politesociety (Oct 21, 2011, 8:39 am) |
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