| DC508 Winter 2009 Final and End Game Statements! - hapolley (Dec 01, 2014, 11:26 am) |
================================================================= !!**!! THE UN HAS VOTED FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT !!**!!=================================================================Indonesia CONTROLS THE UN SECURITY COUNCILIndonesia RUNS THE DC508 GAME'S WORLD!================================================================= =========================================================================TROOP MOBILIZATION BUILDS & RETREATS WT/2009 Aust : AUTO RETREAT: F ava-TON : AUTO REMOVAL: F COS, AUTO REMOVAL: F SCOMars : AUTO RETREAT: A maj-memUsoa : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW! : DANGER! Japan has No Home Centers Left!, : DANGER! Japan MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!, : THE FORMER RULER OF Japan IS STATELESS AND ON THE RUN!, : DANGER! Mars has No Home Centers Left!, : DANGER! Mars MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!, : !!**!! THE UN HAS VOTED FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT !!**!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUPPLY CENTER STATUS WT\2009 |# SC| [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER) =================================================================Aust; Erik Swiatek |( 7)|[AUST,cai,bri],fij,hob,nou,sci,ssiFran; Isaac Zinner |( 6)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit],mar,stu,togIndo; Lucas Mayer |(20)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh] [MARS,kwa,smi,maj](coi),dav,eci,hon,mau mid,per,pmo,sam,wak,wciJapa; Mark Smith |(00)|Mars; Jan Willem Omlo |( 1)|,phoUsoa; Martin Burgdorf |( 1)|[USOA,chr]Zeal; Warren Fleming |( 4)|[ZEAL,chc,wel,kei],cha=================================================================Total = ( 39) ----------------------------------------------------------------- TROOP STATUS WT\2009 |BUILDS| UNITS| =================================================================Aust | ( ) ( 7) |A cai, A kir, A nou, F SAS, A sci A ssi, F TONFran | ( +1) ( 5) |F ava, F EFS, A soi, A stu, A togIndo | ( +3) ( 17) |A ade, F ARS, A coi, A hon, F KIS F maj, F NCO, A noa, A nsi, F PAS F per, F pmo, A smi, F TOS, F TUS F WEM, F WHSMars | ( ) ( 1) |A memUsoa | ( ) ( 1) |F chrZeal | ( ) ( 4) |F kei, F NIS, F SIO, F syd=================================================================Total ( 4) ( 35) =================================================================Oceania Variant Changes for 2015First I like the Island Hopping rule, this is a unique but workable rule for my Adjudicator. The game does have a few playability problems because it is based on Pacific aspects of WW2. As such it can not have a well balanced map as that would require a wrap around map where powers like Japan could strike at New Zealand, Indonesia at France etc. This means that the exposed powers like Marshall_Islands need direct diplomacy to have any real chance at survival. I have never liked the start date and intend to change it to 1930, as this game is loosely based on WW2 tactics and pacific powers in the 1930's. Mark Smith made some map suggestions which got me to thinking about some further map changes. To strengthen MI and weaken Indo, have EMS touch eci and give the eci's supply center to emi! Follow this with putting Wak in middle of WIS instead of on MI border. I am happy with Dav change but perhaps CES could be changed to meet Dav and SCS. The most radical change will be the STORM BOX RULE! If I offer another game of Oceania after Winter Blitz is over, it will have the same format as this years but with gray press and a supporting Diplomacy Market Game. As I never properly explained why I was doing things like anticipated retreats and auto retreats players like Mark Smith got quite upset. My first goal is to run a game observers can find interesting to watch and bet on to some degree with the Diplomacy Bond Market Game. My second goal is to create an Adjudicator for Game Masters that can play almost any variant and output the results in various formats form booklet style to Web Site. I am only about 6 months away from having this done. The core part of the code seems to be error free its the input and output which need work.-------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Storm Box Rule (optional rule by Hugh Polley 11/2014)]Storm boxes have the label [(SEA_place).storm]. (e.g. F MIS C A Mau-MIS.storm) Every sea on an edge of the board has a storm box which leads to every other sea space at the edge of the board. Only a Navy occupying an edge of board Sea space, or an Army convoyed by such a fleet, can enter that sea's storm box. An Army in a storm box can be convoyed out of the storm box provided it's move and a convoying fleet order match up. Entry and exit are one way, so only unit supports of movement from a storm box, and Box Navy unit support of an actions in an edge sea Space will work. You can not move to, or support action on or through, the Space your Navy convoyed to or entered from. A Navy in a storm box can make the convoy order but this will require at least three fleets to execute, and again is a one way convoy. A Fleet in the storm box after the fall turn is damaged by the intense storm and removed from the board. After the fall turn a player may remove or keep an Army in the Storm Box. In the Winter turn you may make a build to replace any removed Storm Box unit. Board Boxes are not a new concept, the first variant I played in had some back in the late 1970's, there may even be one exactly like what I propose. If you come across a close match please send it to me and I will credit it. No! The Youngtown Box is not a close match.=================================================================DC508 End Game Statements: GM, Australia, Japan and Indonesia----------------------------------------------------------------- Game Master; Hugh Polley I thought all players did a great job in playing the game given the limitations each had to work under. I was thinking Australia had the decided advantage but did not calculate in the effect of Japan's defeat on the games balance of power. I think Lucus wisely built a strong fleet based military and that helped put him over the top. Of note; this is first game not won by Japan with exception of two DIAS games where Japan was dominant power and the report of a game played in Germany won by Australia. Also this was a NMR free game, something all Game Masters love to see. Lucas played a great game against worthy opponents, a notable win! He explains the course of the game better than I could in his game statement. I think no one interfered in Japan's demise because of the 'Japan is the strongest power on the Board' notion put out there by myself and others. With the Dav change that is no longer the case. In any email gunboat game there is always the danger of a slip by the GM revealing who is who! I did make a slip but at least it was not a too revealing and the players allowed the game to continue. Instead of eliminating my Oceania Yahoo game folder in one go I did the more labor intensive checking of emails for press before deleting. I discovered the following in random order: White press: 19, 11, 11, 11, 17, 19, 15 = 103 Black Press: 0, 2, 2, 15, 2, 0, 0 = 21 that is only 20% Black! Only one serious black presser in the group! I hope to see you all next year as I continue to develop my version of this game. [(see Oceania Variant Changes)]----------------------------------------------------------------- Japan; Mark Smith Your map changes has made Japan much too weak and Indonesia too strong. New should have an SC not eci. GM: Interesting idea but I am thinking if you wish to strengthen MI and weaken Indo perhaps have EMS touch eci and give the eci supply center to emi! Follow this with putting Wak in middle of WIS instead of on MI border. I am happy with Dav change but perhaps CES could be changed to meet Dav and SCS.----------------------------------------------------------------- Australia; Erik Swiatek All but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered. To GM: Thanks for a good Organized game! GM's like actors live for a bit of praise, thank you!----------------------------------------------------------------- Indonesia (Winner); Lucas MayerI played a lot of variants but never before Oceania. I get Indonesia. I knew that Japan won the most of the Oceania games played before (I know one game in Germany Australia won). So I thought this could be a tough game. For the start my plan was to make a DMZ with Australia and try my best against Japan. Australia agreed to the DMZ. In the first fall I had a bit luck. There was a 50-50-chance that either me or Japan gets a build from Dav or Sor. I decided right so I had the better position against Japan. Japan defended really good but I made progress after all. The DMZ with Australia was still intact. If Australia had stabbed me here I don`t know if I would have been successful against Japan.In this time somebody started to talk about a 2-way-draw between Indonesia and me. Australia was 2 SCs bigger than I was. But I analyzed the moves and had the feeling that Australia was the weaker player. He had grown fast in the beginning but after that there was a lot of stagnation. The reasons were for me a lot of wrong decisions (helping NZ; wasting units for the safety of his homeland, building armies when fleets were necessary...). So I decided to vote against the draw. I expected that I would grow fast after the resistance of Japan is broken. I was right with that. France recaptured Tog after an Australian mistake and I won SCs from Japan. I coordinated Marshalls, USA and France with my first black press (as France) and everybody did what I suggested. So Australia walked 1 down and I`m 2 up. So the situation was Australia 9 SCs and Indonesia 11 SCs. The lead changed to me.Now the mistake of Hugh followed. He forwarded a mail from me to France and so we saw our names. That was really bad for me. I expected a solo because I thought my position was good enough for that and now there were a lot of discussion against me. It was no advantage for me it was a disadvantage to learn France know. I had to fear that Australia would turn on me to early but nothing happened.The DMZ was still intact. I pushed my units further east and didn`t attack Australia. The reason was that I wanted to go for the easy SCs around the Marshalls before I step into the big war against Australia. The situation helped me. Japan escaped from my units while taking the US centers with the help from the Marshalls (Why, Marshalls? The USA was the better partner), Nothing really important happened in the area around NZ, Australia and France. So I pushed forward to the Marshalls and took a lot of easy SCs. Finally I made the last step and attacked Australia to win the last 2 SCs for the solo victory. And that is the history how I won that game.My thoughts to the variants: I enjoyed playing this variant. The hopping function of the armies is pretty interesting. You have to find that right balance between armies and fleets because both can move on in nearly the same speed. For my impression there were too less fleets. Especially Australia missed the building of new fleets in the right moment. So I had the most time more armies than fleets and captured the SCs by sea. The change of Dav to a hopping island is a good thing and makes the map more balanced. There was this 50-50-chance in the first fall. If Japan had decided otherwise our war would have gone the other way round. But this changes not the impression that the map is very imbalanced. There are too much SCs in the west. That makes the winner of Australia, Indonesia and Japan to the favorite in the game. Marshalls as a middle power has not enough units. I think a fourth starting SCs would be a good idea. USA is too weak, too. The home SCs are too far away from each other too connecting the forces right. NZ and France have to struggle for their second first-year-build. So that makes Australia's position even better. Choosing the gunboat option makes this imbalance higher because you can`t equalize that with good negotiations.But with all this imbalance it was still a lot of fun (maybe because I won). I have to say that the result was clear: The German wins the German designed variant.Special thanks to Hugh for GMing. You did a great job (except for this little mistake [ . GM's like actors live for a bit of praise, thank you![Reply] |
| The start of Winter End Game statements for DC508!... - hapolley (Nov 25, 2014, 5:09 pm) |
The start of Winter End Game statements for DC508! Deadline Sunday!
End Game Statements from: GM, Indonesia, partial statements from Australia, and Japan. Instead of eliminating all my Oceania Yahoo game folder in one go I did the more labor intensive checking of emails for press before deleting. I discovered the following in random order: White press: 19, 11, 11, 11, 17, 19, 15 = 103 Black Press: 0, 2, 2, 15, 2, 0, 0 = 21 that is only 20% Black! Only one serious black presser in the group!
H Polley GM:Why does this GM like Oceania?First I like the Island Hopping rule, this is a unique but workable rule for my Adjudicator. The game does have a few playability problems because it is based on Pacific aspects of WW2. As such it can not have a well balanced map as that would require a wrap around map where powers like Japan could strike at New Zealand, Indonesia at France etc. This means that the exposed powers like Marshall_Islands need direct diplomacy to have any real chance at survival.Perhaps an off board box which allows secret movement to any sea space on edge of map might be possible solution. Think of Japan's attack on Peril as rational for same.One fun aspect of game is solid stalemate lines are very hard to establish increasing the odds of a sole winner.
Japan M Smith: Your map changes has made Japan much too weak and Indonesia too strong. New should have an SC not eci. H Polley: Interesting idea but I am thinking if you wish to strengthen MI and weaken Indo perhaps have EMS touch eci and give the eci supply center to emi! Follow this with putting Wak in middle of WIS instead of on border? I am happy with Dav change but perhaps CES could be changed to meet Dav and SCS.
Any one else wish to chime in on map changes?
The kernel of my adjudicator has passed all adjudication movement tests its main weakness is text input and output. I will work on this between now and spring.
Possible Storm box rule: Every sea on edge of board has a storm box which leads to every other sea space at edge of board. Entry is one way, only fleet occupying the Sea space can enter its storm box. A fleet in a storm box can make the convoy order but this will require at least three fleets to execute. A fleet in the storm box in the winter turn is auto removed from the board, yes you may make a build to replace the lost unit. I will program this into my adjudicator over winter.Storm boxes have label (?? SEA).storm. Would you favor such a rule?
In DC508 I thought all players did a great job in playing the game given the limitations each had to work under. I was thinking Australia had the decided advantage but did not calculate in the effect of Japan's defeat on the games balance of power. I think Lucus wisely built a strong fleet based military and that helped put him over the top. Of note; this is first game not won by Japan with exception of two DIAS games where Japan was dominant power and the report of a game played in Germany and won by Australia.
I am not the first GM to screw up a gunboat email, nor will I be the last.I wish to thank all players for helping us get through this difficulty avoiding revealing who all the players were in-order to continue the game.
I think this is first time I have had an NMR free game. So you are all welcome to play in any future game I GM even those who were not 100% happy with the way I GM games.
End Game statements and Part End Game statements:Australia Erik Swiatek: All but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered.To GM: Thanks for a good Organized game! GM's like actors live for a bit of praise, thank you!
Indonesia (Winner): Lucas Mayer End of game statement! I played a lot of variants but never before Oceania. I get Indonesia. I knew that Japan won the most of the Oceania games played before (I know one game in Germany Australia won). So I thought this could be a tough game. For the start my plan was to make a DMZ with Australia and try my best against Japan. Australia agreed to the DMZ. In the first fall I had a bit luck. There was a 50-50-chance that either me or Japan gets a build from Dav or Sor. I decided right so I had the better position against Japan. Japan defended really good but I made progress after all. The DMZ with Australia was still intact. If Australia had stabbed me here I don`t know if I would have been successful against Japan. In this time somebody started to talk about a 2-way-draw between Indonesia and me. Australia was 2 SCs bigger than I was. But I analyzed the moves and had the feeling that Australia was the weaker player. He had grown fast in the beginning but after that there was a lot of stagnation. The reasons were for me a lot of wrong decisions (helping NZ; wasting units for the safety of his homeland, building armies when fleets were necessary...). So I decided to vote against the draw. I expected that I would grow fast after the resistance of Japan is broken. I was right with that. France recaptured Tog after an Australian mistake and I won SCs from Japan. I coordinated Marshalls, USA and France with my first black press (as France) and everybody did what I suggested. So Australia walked 1 down and I`m 2 up. So the situation was Australia 9 SCs and Indonesia 11 SCs. The lead changed to me. Now the mistake of Hugh followed. He forwarded a mail from me to France and so we saw our names. That was really bad for me. I expected a solo because I thought my position was good enough for that and now there were a lot of discussion against me. It was no advantage for me it was a disadvantage to learn France know. I had to fear that Australia would turn on me to early but nothing happened. The DMZ was still intact. I pushed my units further east and didn`t attack Australia. The reason was that I wanted to go for the easy SCs around the Marshalls before I step into the big war against Australia. The situation helped me. Japan escaped from my units while taking the US centers with the help from the Marshalls (Why, Marshalls? The USA was the better partner), Nothing really important happened in the area around NZ, Australia and France. So I pushed forward to the Marshalls and took a lot of easy SCs. Finally I made the last step and attacked Australia to win the last 2 SCs for the solo victory. And that is the history how I won that game. My thoughts to the variants:I enjoyed playing this variant. The hopping function of the armies is pretty interesting. You have to find that right balance between armies and fleets because both can move on in nearly the same speed. For my impression there were too less fleets. Especially Australia missed the building of new fleets in the right moment. So I had the most time more armies than fleets and captured the SCs by sea.The change of Dav to a hopping island is a good thing and makes the map more balanced. There was this 50-50-chance in the first fall. If Japan had decided otherwise our war would have gone the other way round. But this changes not the impression that the map is very imbalanced. There are too much SCs in the west. That makes the winner of Australia, Indonesia and Japan to the favorite in the game. Marshalls as a middle power has not enough units. I think a fourth starting SCs would be a good idea. USA is too weak, too. The home SCs are too far away from each other too connecting the forces right. NZ and France have to struggle for their second first-year-build. So that makes Australia's position even better. Choosing the gunboat option makes this imbalance higher because you can`t equalize that with good negotiations. But with all this imbalance it was still a lot of fun (maybe because I won). I have to say that the result was clear: The German wins the German designed variant. Special thanks to Hugh for GMing. You did a great job (except for this little mistake  ) GM's like actors live for a bit of praise, thank you![Reply] |
| INDONESIA RUNS THE DC508 GAME'S WORLD! - hapolley (Nov 23, 2014, 8:21 pm) |
Please send in your end of game statements by next Sunday and I will add them to final results! Congratulations to all on a hard fought NMR free game!
Congratulations to Lucas the SOLO WINNER of DC508! ================================================================= !!**!! THE UN HAS VOTED FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT !!**!!=================================================================Indonesia CONTROLS THE UN SECURITY COUNCILIndonesia RUNS THE DC508 GAME'S WORLD!================================================================================================================================== ======================================================================Player and Contact Information Power : Player Email =================================================================Australia : Erik Swiatek [ERS(at)prosa.dk]France : Isaac Zinner [isaac.zinner(at)gmail.com]Indonesia : Lucas Mayer [LucasMayer1(at)gmx.de]Japan : Mark Smith [sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com]Marshall_Islands: Jan Willem Omlo [longtallglasses(at)gmail.com]Usoa : Martin Burgdorf [martin_burgdorf(at)hotmail.com]Zealand : Warren Fleming [alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com]Game Master : Hugh Polley [hapolley(at)yahoo.ca] ======================================================================TROOP MOBILIZATION BUILDS & RETREATS WT/2009 Aust : AUTO RETREAT: F ava-TON : AUTO REMOVAL: F COS, AUTO REMOVAL: F SCOMars : AUTO RETREAT: A maj-memUsoa : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW! : DANGER! Japan has No Home Centers Left!, : DANGER! Japan MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!, : THE FORMER RULER OF Japan IS STATELESS AND ON THE RUN!, : DANGER! Mars has No Home Centers Left!, : DANGER! Mars MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!, : !!**!! THE UN HAS VOTED FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT !!**!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUPPLY CENTER STATUS WT\2009 |# SC| [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER) =================================================================Aust |( 7)|[AUST,cai,bri],fij,hob,nou,sci,ssiFran |( 6)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit],mar,stu,togIndo |(20)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh] [MARS,kwa,smi,maj](coi),dav,eci,hon,mau mid,per,pmo,sam,wak,wciMars |( 1)|,phoUsoa |( 1)|[USOA,chr]Zeal |( 4)|[ZEAL,chc,wel,kei],cha=================================================================Total = ( 39) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- TROOP STATUS WT\2009 |BUILDS| UNITS| =================================================================Aust | ( ) ( 7) |A cai, A kir, A nou, F SAS, A sci A ssi, F TONFran | ( +1) ( 5) |F ava, F EFS, A soi, A stu, A togIndo | ( +3) ( 17) |A ade, F ARS, A coi, A hon, F KIS F maj, F NCO, A noa, A nsi, F PAS F per, F pmo, A smi, F TOS, F TUS F WEM, F WHSMars | ( ) ( 1) |A memUsoa | ( ) ( 1) |F chrZeal | ( ) ( 4) |F kei, F NIS, F SIO, F syd=================================================================Total ( 4) ( 35) ======================================================================OCEANIA DC508HP\FALL/2009 RESULTSRETREATS: Mars A maj TO mem,OTB Japa A hon TO kau,big,OTB Aust F ava TO TON,fsp,OTB BUILDS AND REMOVALS IF RETREATS DISBANDED: Aust Remove 1 Unit Fran Build 1 Unit Indo Build 3 Units Mars Build 1 Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------- TROOP MOVEMENT WF2009 Australia : [F COS-PHS],A fij-sci,[A kir-smi],[A ssi-coi] F sfi-SAS,[F SCO-NCO],[A nou S A ssi-coi] [F ava H ],A cai H ,{F ava: Dislodged}France : [A tog-pho],F SSP-ava,[F EFS-TUS] A stu S A fij-sci,A soi S F SSP-avaIndonesia : A noa-ade,[F NCO-nou],[F TUS-kir],[F pmo-NCO] A sor-noa,[F TOS-SCO],A emi-smi,[F PAS-PHS] A mid-hon,[A nsi-ssi],F EAM-maj F ARS C A sor-noa,F per S A noa-ade [A coi S F NCO-nou],F WEM S A emi-smi F KIS S F EAM-maj,F WHS S A mid-honJapan : [A hon-mid],{A hon: Dislodged}Marshall_Islands : [A maj-pho],{A maj: Dislodged}Usoa : F chr HZealand : [F syd-ade],F GAB-SIO,F kei H ,F NIS H [Reply] |
| Only one set missing! - hapolley (Nov 23, 2014, 1:39 pm) |
Oceania DC508\FALL-WINTER/2009 Press!===========================================================GM: So far this has been an NMR free game, hope you all get in your moves as such games are rare and therefore of note.==========================================================Oceania DC508\FALL-Winter/2009 Player Press!=========================================================== 10) OZ to France: A Fij would like to visit sci.==================================================== 9) New Zealand to all: Yep, so much for any miraculous guessing. Do we play it out to the end or can we vote the solo? GM: As vote can not happen till Winter it would not count for much.  France to Australia , this game is over - most likely. However as far as it concerns me I'lldo my best to help you. I won't attack any of your SC ( except for ava which is my home).If you need any help please ask. , Though it is a nice win by Indonesia, no doubt. 7) New Zealand to all: Am I missing something? Indonesia at least has to make a good guess to win this. 6) Marshall Islands - OZ-bashers: What silly comments you make.As Australia rightfully tells us, we all lose and we all could've done something against Indonesia.If USA & I had left each other alone, if France had stopped attacking Australia, if Japan had played something else than his own game,we could've stopped Indonesia easily. I applaud Indonesia and wonder how much of the fake press was his/hers. 5) The map changes to weaken Japan strengthened Indonesia. The original map was more balanced. GM: I played this game as Japan and walked away with game even without an ally. So I disagree. 4)Australia gave this game to Indonesia when he didn't support Japan versus Indonesia. No one else could've stopped Indonesia but Australia. 3) Australia to all. Correct I loose, all but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered. So please be realistic. 2) Too Late it is over, OZ Loses 1) New Zealand to Australia: Do you now see the obvious?Will you at least try to stop the solo? I will not take yourdots and will support you to hold Indonesia, but you must communicate your intentions.===========================================================[Reply] |
| 48 hours till Deadline! Oceania DC508\FALL-Winter/... - hapolley (Nov 22, 2014, 6:28 am) |
Missing four order sets with 48 hours to go!
Australia ( 9): F ava, A cai, F COS, A fij, A kir, A nou
F SCO, F sfi, A ssiFrance ( 5): F EFS, A soi, F SSP, A stu, A togUsoa ( 1): F chr
Zealand ( 4): F GAB, F kei, F NIS, F syd
==========================================================Oceania DC508\FALL-Winter/2009 Player Press!=========================================================== 9) New Zealand to all: Yep, so much for any miraculous guessing. Do we play it out to the end or can we vote the solo? GM: As vote can not happen till Winter it would not count for much. France to Australia , this game is over - most likely. However as far as it concerns me I'lldo my best to help you. I won't attack any of your SC ( except for ava which is my home).If you need any help please ask. , Though it is a nice win by Indonesia, no doubt. 7) New Zealand to all: Am I missing something? Indonesia at least has to make a good guess to win this. 6) Marshall Islands - OZ-bashers: What silly comments you make.As Australia rightfully tells us, we all lose and we all could've done something against Indonesia.If USA & I had left each other alone, if France had stopped attacking Australia, if Japan had played something else than his own game,we could've stopped Indonesia easily. I applaud Indonesia and wonder how much of the fake press was his/hers. 5) The map changes to weaken Japan strengthened Indonesia. The original map was more balanced. GM: I played this game as Japan and walked away with game even without an ally. So I disagree. 4)Australia gave this game to Indonesia when he didn't support Japan versus Indonesia. No one else could've stopped Indonesia but Australia. 3) Australia to all. Correct I loose, all but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered. So please be realistic. 2) Too Late it is over, OZ Loses 1) New Zealand to Australia: Do you now see the obvious?Will you at least try to stop the solo? I will not take yourdots and will support you to hold Indonesia, but you must communicate your intentions.===========================================================[Reply] |
| Oceania DC508\FALL-WINTER/2009 Press! One order se... - hapolley (Nov 21, 2014, 12:45 am) |
Oceania DC508\FALL-WINTER/2009 Press!===========================================================GM: So far this has been an NMR free game, hope you all get in your moves as such games are rare and therefore of note.===========================================================
Oceania DC508\FALL-Winter/2009 Player Press!=========================================================== 9) New Zealand to all: Yep, so much for any miraculous guessing. Do we play it out to the end or can we vote the solo? GM: As vote can not happen till Winter it would not count for much.=========================================================== France to Australia , this game is over - most likely. However as far as it concerns me I'lldo my best to help you. I won't attack any of your SC ( except for ava which is my home).If you need any help please ask. , Though it is a nice win by Indonesia, no doubt. 7) New Zealand to all: Am I missing something? Indonesia at least has to make a good guess to win this. 6) Marshall Islands - OZ-bashers: What silly comments you make.As Australia rightfully tells us, we all lose and we all could've done something against Indonesia.If USA & I had left each other alone, if France had stopped attacking Australia, if Japan had played something else than his own game,we could've stopped Indonesia easily. I applaud Indonesia and wonder how much of the fake press was his/hers. 5) The map changes to weaken Japan strengthened Indonesia. The original map was more balanced. GM: I played this game as Japan and walked away with game even without an ally. So I disagree. 4)Australia gave this game to Indonesia when he didn't support Japan versus Indonesia. No one else could've stopped Indonesia but Australia. 3) Australia to all. Correct I loose, all but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered. So please be realistic. 2) Too Late it is over, OZ Loses 1) New Zealand to Australia: Do you now see the obvious?Will you at least try to stop the solo? I will not take yourdots and will support you to hold Indonesia, but you must communicate your intentions.===========================================================[Reply] |
| Oceania DC508\SPRING-SUMMER/2009 Results! Fall/Wi... - hapolley (Nov 20, 2014, 7:00 pm) |
Next deadline is for Fall/Winter 2009 on Sunday NOV 23/2014 at 1800MT.=================================================================Oceania DC508\SPRING-SUMMER/2009 Press!
GM: Indonesia closes in on A cai, and takes control of coi from Australia. The battle for coi,ssi could well decide the game. Australia re-occupies ssi and nou! Zealand fleets leave home waters! Maj, smi, hon, pho and ava are all hot spots!
GM: For once I have game adjudicated by 1800 deadline! Player: Just for my info, what does GAB stand for? GAB, Great Australian Bight GM: Sounds like a name Australians would use. Player: Of course, thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Oceania DC508\SPRING-SUMMER/2009 Player Press! France to Australia , this game is over - most likely. However as far as it concerns me I'll do my best to help you. I won't attack any of your SC ( except for ava which is my home). If you need any help please ask. , Though it is a nice win by Indonesia, no doubt. 7) New Zealand to all: Am I missing something? Indonesia at least has to make a good guess to win this. 6) Marshall Islands - OZ-bashers: What silly comments you make. As Australia rightfully tells us, we all lose and we all could've done something against Indonesia. If USA & I had left each other alone, if France had stopped attacking Australia, if Japan had played something else than his own game, we could've stopped Indonesia easily. I applaud Indonesia and wonder how much of the fake press was his/hers. 5) The map changes to weaken Japan strengthened Indonesia. The original map was more balanced. GM: I played this game as Japan and walked away with game even without an ally. So I disagree. 4)Australia gave this game to Indonesia when he didn't support Japan versus Indonesia. No one else could've stopped Indonesia but Australia. 3) Australia to all. Correct I loose, all but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered. So please be realistic. 2) Too Late it is over, OZ Loses 1) New Zealand to Australia: Do you now see the obvious? Will you at least try to stop the solo? I will not take your dots and will support you to hold Indonesia, but you must communicate your intentions. =================================================================Oceania DC508HP\Spring-Summer/2009----------------------------------------------------------------- SPRING TROOP MOVEMENT Australia : A sci-ssi,A ntu-kir,[F SCO-NCO],[F sfi-SAS] A tow-cai,A van-nou,[A fij-sci],F COS S F ava F ava HFrance : [F SSP-ava],[F EFS-SAS],A soi S F SSP-ava A tog S A stu,[A stu S A sci] {Action Error: A stu S A sci}Indonesia : A tim-noa,[F TUS-sci],F jay-pmo,A nsi-coi A emi-nsi,A wci-emi,F EAM-PAS,F WEM-EAM F kwa-WEM,F maj-KIS,F WIS-WHS F ARS C A tim-noa,F per S A tim-noa F TOS S A nsi-coi,[F NCO S A nsi-coi] A sor H ,A mid HJapan : [A hon-mid]Marshall_Islands : A pho-majUsoa : F chr HZealand : F WNZ-NIS,F STS-GAB,F NTS-syd,F kei H ----------------------------------------------------------------- TROOP MOBILIZATION RETREATS SU/2009: NONE!----------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMER TROOP STATUS Australia ( 9): F ava, A cai, F COS, A fij, A kir, A nou F SCO, F sfi, A ssiFrance ( 5): F EFS, A soi, F SSP, A stu, A togIndonesia (17): F ARS, A coi, F EAM, A emi, F KIS, A mid F NCO, A noa, A nsi, F PAS, F per, F pmo A sor, F TOS, F TUS, F WEM, F WHSJapan ( 1): A honMarshall_Islands ( 1): A majUsoa ( 1): F chrZealand ( 4): F GAB, F kei, F NIS, F sydTotal = ( 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUPPLY CENTER STATUS SU\2009 |# SC| [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER) =================================================================Australia |( 9)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi](ava),fij,hob,nou,sci ssiFrance |( 5)|[FRAN,pap,pit],mar,stu,togIndonesia |(1|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh] [MARS,kwa,smi,maj],dav,eci,mau,mid,per pmo,sam,wak,wciJapan |( 1)|,honMarshall_Islands |( 1)|,phoUsoa |( 1)|[USOA,chr]Zealand |( 4)|[ZEAL,chc,wel,kei],chaNeutral |( 0)|=================================================================Total = ( 39) =================================================================RULES AND DEADLINE ----------------------------------------------------------------- Deadlines Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time. Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary. Next deadline is for Fall/Winter 2009 on Sunday NOV 23/2014 at 1800MT. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Adjudication Players Use Anticipated retreats and builds! They may be placed in brackets after orders;- ssi-coi Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered in list; [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri][Reply] |
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| Oceania DC508\SPRING/2008 Press! - hapolley (Nov 18, 2014, 11:36 pm) |
Oceania DC508\SPRING/2008 Press!====================================================Oceania is a seven player Diplomacy variant designed by Frank Bacher.
GM: Note I have the only adjudicator which can 100% handle this game because of its no retreat to hop-able Island option. Running an Oceania gunboat game has been very helpful in seeing how the balance of power works.
This game is based on ww2; as such it can not have a well balanced map as that would require a wrap around map where powers like Japan could strike at New Zealand, Indonesia at France etc. This means that the exposed powers like Marshall_Islands need direct diplomacy to have any real chance at survival.
To handle this problem I am thinking about offering a Grey press game with a treaty option after Diplomaticcorp's Winter Blitz is over. Purists do not like Grey press where a byline is reserved for each country. But I also wish to run a much improved dependent Diplomacy Bond Market game and for that Grey Press would work best. I have finished re-coding the first section of the code such that almost any input, even compound names with (-) or (.) can be handled. So lets see if it passes the Indonesian test this turn. ===========================================================Oceania DC508\SPRING/2009 Press!=========================================================== 6) The map changes to weaken Japan strengthened Indonesia. The original map was more balanced. GM: I played this game as Japan and walked away with game even without an ally. So I disagree. 5) Australia gave this game to Indonesia when he didn't support Japan versus Indonesia. No one else could've stopped Indonesia but Australia. 4)Australia gave this game to Indonesia when he didn't support Japan versus Indonesia. No one else could've stopped Indonesia but Australia. 3) Australia to all. Correct I loose, all but Indonesia loose. But it started when I when I went from 1O to 9 and Indo grew to 11 and France with friends still hammered at me and looked upon me as the main enemy even when Indo could expand unhindered. So please be realistic. 2) Too Late it is over, OZ Loses 1) New Zealand to Australia: Do you now see the obvious?Will you at least try to stop the solo? I will not take yourdots and will support you to hold Indonesia, but you must communicate your intentions.===========================================================[Reply] |
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| Deadline Extension till 0900 MT! Oceania DC508\FAL... - hapolley (Nov 16, 2014, 3:38 pm) |
I have been asked for an extension by more than one Player! So new deadline is Monday at 0900 MT: 2014/11/17!
Positions and Map attached!
TROOP STATUS SU\2008 | ===============================================================Australia | F COS, A fij, A ntu, A sci, F SCO, F sfi F TON, A tow, A vanFrance | F EFS, A mar, F NSP, A stu, A togIndonesia | F ARS, F EAM, A emi, F maj, A mid, F NCO A nmi, A nsi, F pmo, F TIS, F TUS, F wak F WEM, F WISJapan | A hon, A kauMarshall_Islands | F KIS, A phoUsoa | F chr, A kirZealand | F chc, F kei, F SNZ, F WNZ=============================================================== [Reply] |
| Deadline in 12! Oceania DC508\FALL/2008 Press! - hapolley (Nov 16, 2014, 8:11 am) |
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| TROOP MOBILIZATION BUILDS & RETREATS for WT/2007!... - hapolley (Nov 10, 2014, 1:18 pm) |
Next deadline is for Spring 2008 is Thursday NOV 13/2014 at 1800MT.======================================================================TROOP MOBILIZATION BUILDS & RETREATS WT/2007: Australia : Build; A cai, Retreats F pap - LIS France : Remove; F COSIndonesia : Build; F jay, F sor, F timJapan : Remove; A kau : DANGER! Japan has No Home
Centers Left!, : DANGER! Japan MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!Marshall_Islands : Remove; A mmi, A kwa, : DANGER! Marshall_Islands MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!Usoa : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!Zealand : Build; F chc ======================================================================Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!=================================================================
GM: Except for Zealand the great powers are getting greater and small powers smaller! In the fall the Western Pacific was almost unoccupied, now one lone Australian Army faces 4 Indonesian Fleets! France advances towards the Australian front line. Indonesia surrounds Marshall_Islands homeland which is abandoned by M. Japan may hold on for a time with final two units. Year of the Fleets, Zealand becomes an all Fleet power! Indonesia builds three fleets, Marshall_Islands keeps her fleet. Australia is losing the great power race for a solo, will this result in a great power clash in 2008?================================================================= Winter
Proposals: Defeated! I/F draw: no,no,no,yes,no,yes,no 2/5 A/M/N/J/U draw: no,yes,no,yes,no,no,no 2/5 DIAS : yes,no,no,yes,no,yes,no 3/5=================================================================Oceania DC508\Winter/2007 Player Press! ================================================================= 1 New Zealand to France: I will not attack you further now that I have my home center, and I'll help you hold a line. 17) New Zealand to Australia: I'm not sure what your
intentions are moving your fleet to WNZ. I might have waived my build, but now I will build in Christchurch to defend, just in case. I won't attack you, and won't help France against you, but I may help France hold against you. You might want to think about Indonesia's potential for winning now. 16) Marshall Islands - All (and especially one-issue-party France): Yeah, let's stop Australia, he will win this game hands down if we don't pile on top of him. Oh and Indonesia, congrats on your victory! 15) Marshall Islands - All: I really enjoyed all the Marshall-prose. The only one that came from me was number 5. 14) Indonesia to Australia: You should have a look on NZ. If he changes to France there is much resistance against our 2-way-draw. I would build F Bri.
13) To Australia: Building army in bri, right? Perth is the start. 12) France to NZ : taking back kei isn't very helpful to the cause but I can understand it and will not try to defend it , as it was yours. From now on please help in stopping Australia. 11. USA to Marshall: As the ruler of Indonesia did not answer - probably he does not feel the need to communicate with such a minor power as the United States - and your new proposition is in agreement with the rules, I shall order as you suggested, i. e. A maj S M A kir - smi. 10. Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: The message before wasn`t from me. Can you support Kir-Smi. 9.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: There are a lot people talking as
Marshalls. USA to Indonesia: I suggest mutual support F smi S U A maj xxx, A maj S I F smi xxx. Please note that maj and smi belong to different island chains. I also request your order F NAS - kir to cut possible support. 7) USA to Marshall: The author of press no. 4 does not know the rules of the game. A kwa - smi is not possible. The rules state clearly that 'armies can move _directly_ from one island chain to another'. kwa and smi, however, do not belong to different island chains. 6) USA: I think the best way is I support you into Smi. 5) Marshall Islands applauds the writer of press no 4. 4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi 3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo? It was time for the stab! Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN? 2) France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win. 1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan. Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=======================================================================================================================================RULES AND DEADLINE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deadlines Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time. Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary. Next deadline is for Spring 2008 is Thursday NOV 13/2014 at 1800MT. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adjudication Players Use Anticipated retreats and builds! They may be placed in brackets after orders;- ssi-coi Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered
in list; [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri] ======================================================================FALL TROOP MOVEMENT Australia : [A fij-pho],[F EFS-fij],[F SCO-EFS],F NTS-WNZ A van S F EFS-fij,A sci S F stu,A ntu S F stu F stu H ,[F pap H ],{F pap: Dislodged}France : F ava-COS,F NSP-pap,[A sfi-fij],[F TON-EFS]
A tog S A sfi-fij,A mar S F NSP-papIndonesia : A wmi-wci,F WIS-EAM,F VOS-WIS,F SMS-NOM A nmi S F wak,A mau S F wak,F NAS S F smi A emi S F smi,F pmo H ,F wak H ,F smi H {Illegal Movement: F pmo - SMS}Japan : A hon S A mid,A kau S A mid [A mid S A kwa-wak] {Action Error: A mid S A kwa - wak}Marshall_Islands : A
kir-pho,[A mmi-wak],F KIS S A kir-pho A kwa S A mmi-wakUsoa : [A maj S A kir-smi],F chr H {Action Error: A maj S A kir - smi}Zealand : F cha-SWP,F ENZ S F kei,F kei H -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUPPLY CENTER STATUS WT\2007 |# SC| [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER) =================================================================Australia |(10)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi],fij,hob,nou,per,sci ssi,stuFrance |( 5)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit],mar,togIndonesia |(14)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu nsh](smi),dav,eci,mau,pmo,sam,wak,wciJapan |( 2)|,hon,midMarshall_Islands |( 2)|[MARS,kwa],phoUsoa |( 2)|[USOA,chr](maj)Zealand
|( 4)|[ZEAL,chc,wel,kei],chaNeutral |( 0)|=================================================================Total = ( 39) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- TROOP STATUS WT\2007 |BUILDS| UNITS| =================================================================Australia | ( ) ( 10) |A cai, F EFS, A fij, F LIS, A ntu
A sci, F SCO, F stu, A van, F WNZFrance | ( ) ( 5) |A mar, F pap, A sfi, A tog, F TONIndonesia | ( ) ( 14) |F EAM, A emi, F jay, A mau, F NAS A nmi, F NOM, F pmo, F smi, F sor F tim, F wak, A wci, F WISJapan | ( ) ( 2) |A hon, A midMarshall_Islands | ( ) ( 2) |F KIS, A phoUsoa
| ( ) ( 2) |F chr, A majZealand | ( ) ( 4) |F chc, F ENZ, F kei, F SWPMadman | ( ) ( 0) |=================================================================Total ( ) ( 39) [Reply] |
