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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1911 - Rule Brittania! -... - Ethanlx   (Nov 13, 2008, 6:05 pm)
I have to echo Dennis' congrats to everyone.

England was my second choice after France. I didn't mind playing as
England but I knew that it would be difficult to leave the island.

Early on my goal was to be friendly to everyone, be honest the whole way
(if possible) and try to make an ally with either Germany or France. I
didn't care which one at first, as long as I had one. I knew how the
triangle between England, France and Germany usually plays out: if you
are the lone country you don't survive. France came early on and tried
to make friend. Germany was more noncommittal (and was building more
fleet than England cares to see). The pack with France was never a full
alliance (as far as I understood it). It was more a deal to attack
Germany and that's it. After France made a few mistakes (on purpose or
not), it seriously affected my view on France. I knew that he didn't
really want a full war on Germany and was making it difficult. At that
point, I could see Austria and Turkey getting along in the East and
growing while we were still doing nothing in the West. My guess is that
Germany saw that also and wanted to act. France didn't seemed (that
might not be correct, but it was my feeling) to cared about the East and
had a hard time convincing me that 3 countries (England, France and
Germany) could coexist. I knew I would get the raw end of that deal
further in the game. At that point, Germany offered me an alliance that
would see France gone and us moving East. I remember at the beginning
being very suspicious of Germany (I'm sure that Dennis felt the same
way). Those first moves really needed trust from both of us. One could
easily have turned on the other at that moment. The alliance with
Germany was a very good one as (in my opinion again) nobody was selfish
and communication was excellent.

Early in the game I was surprised to see Russia so aggressive toward
Norway (a neutral SC that normally goes to England without question in
the beginning) and didn't even talk about an alliance or cooperation
(didn't look good early on). I deduced that Russia wanted to scared me
and focused more on Austria and Turkey. This seemed like a good place to
start.

Turkey was receptive early on to cooperation (an alliance of Turkey and
England is a very good one statistically)! Because of the distance early
on, we kept in touch every year or so. Me asking what was going on the
the East and him asking me about the West. I tried to tell him as much
as I could but it was still a mess (he probably though that I didn't
want to say too much, but it was more that I too didn't know). Turkey's
flip flop between Austria and us later in the game didn't inspire
confidence and upon consultation with Germany we decided not to include
him in our plan anymore by fear of him telling Austria. A 3-way tie
between Turkey, Germany and England would have been totally acceptable
to me toward the middle of the game and would probably have succeeded.

I had almost no dealings with Italy as neither of us was really useful
to the other. It's hard to cooperate when gains are not mutual.

I thought early on that Austria was probably a good player but made it
too obvious in my opinion. Looking too strong, too fast makes for other
countries to join forces to protect themselves and stop you!!! Austria
really only offered me one deal and it was really in his favour. That
didn't give me the confidence needed in an ally. I knew that other
players in my region (the West) had had bad dealing with him and
proceeded with caution. Austria really seemed to understand that this
was a game when I had to take SCs from him and seemed interested in the
challenge! I knew that GMs and some countries had other opinions.

Toward the end, it seemed that everyone was a little bit tired and
wanted the game over (me included sometimes). It became clear that it
would be a 4-way tie and I didn't mind that, even though it seemed like
a lot of effort for nothing and I would have been happy to help either
Austria or Turkey get rid of the other one to change it to a 3-way tie.
I really wanted Germany to have a part of the win since he had been a
really good ally and though that it was unfair that I would get the
solo. But he seemed more interested in me winning than having the other
player share the win. I knew that France would be happy that way.

I also made a lot of mistakes and wish I could have played differently.
I felt really exposed the whole game having units _everywhere_.

I hope that everyone will write one of these even if they didn't enjoy
the game or left early on.

I don't think I'll play Diplomacy any time soon but will surely come
back eventually.

I also have an idea what happen to our first moderator but would be
interested in really finding what happen.

Thanks to Trout for the hard work, to everyone for staying until the end
and to Dennis who was a fantastic ally.

Etienne aka England

Dennis Alford wrote:

Thanks for the great game everyone, although a little belatedly. And
congrats to Et on the solo win.

This was my first Diplomacy game online and the first in a few years.
I've never played as Germany before and it certainly was not one of my
top choices. It was fun to play though! I got a lot of mail early in
the game.

From the beginning, Germany's plan was to work with France to
eliminate England. With that corner safe, Germany and France would
then turn east. I thought that between England and France, England
was more of a threat for a backstab and the border could be more
easily secured between France and Germany. Obviously, that didn't
work out when France turned on Germany. With Austria and Turkey
wiping out Russia with lightning speed, I frantically emailed France
and England to see if one would turn on the other. By process of
elimination, I joined up with England against France. France, seeing
the threat f Austria and Turkey, allowed us to take SC's with little
to no resistance as long as we worked to make sure Austria/Turkey
would not win.

After France was taken, England focused on fleets in the south and
Germany focused on armies. I kept my fleets around though because I
knew I was going to have to turn on England at one time or another--or
at least protect myself if England turned on me first.

Austria stabbed Turkey and Turkey send cries for help. Germany and
England moved against Austria with Turkey's help for a little while.
But Austria must have offered Turkey a better deal because all of a
sudden, Turkey was working with Austria again. Then BAM, Austria and
Turkey declare they have formed a stalemate line that England and
Germany could not break. After careful examination, I verified their
claim. Given Turkey's resolve to stick with Austria, England and
Germany decided that a stalemate between 4 countries was not worth all
of the time and effort put into the game thus far. Inspired by
France's sacrifice so that Austria and Turkey would not get too
powerful, Germany also gave up SC's. SC's transitioned to English
control, and the rest, is history.

Final thoughts:
-When Et, Dom, and I talked, Dom and I both said we would rather take
ourselves down as long as Austria did not win. And that's exactly
what happened.
-I never trusted Austria.
-I still have no idea what went down with our first moderator. But I
think I have an idea.
-If you want to write out your stories from your perspective, it would
be fun to read and know what happened behind your back.
-I made A LOT of mistakes in movement and strategy. I wasted a few
moves I didn't have to.
-Thanks again everyone. Thanks Trout, your emails were always fun to
read. I'm kind of Diplomacy'd out for now, but hopefully we will meet
again on the map.

Dennis




On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com
<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, lots of trick or treating going on tonight. And for
Etienne, it's a treat. Fall 1911 rolls around and, to everyone's
surprise it brings a British 19-center solo! (Oddly enough
though, the solo proposal was voted down... Go figure.)

Congratulations to Etienne, as well as to all of our players for
playing it right out to the end. EOG statements are very welcome
- let us hear how the game went for you. The highs, the lows, the
middles...

Thanks again to everyone for joining in the fun. We'll see you
all in the next one!

Congratulations all! DC-173 is a wrap.

Gigabyte Trout


Movement results for Fall of 1911. (DC173 11 FALL)

Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.

England: A Berlin Supports A Munich.
England: A Burgundy, no move received.
England: F Denmark Hold.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Kiel Supports A Berlin.
England: A Liverpool Hold.
England: A London Hold.
England: A Moscow Supports A Warsaw.
England: F North Sea Hold.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: A Ruhr Supports A Munich.
England: F Sweden, no move received.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Moscow.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.

Germany: A Bohemia Hold.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: A Silesia Hold.
Germany: A Ukraine Hold.

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A
Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Berlin, A Burgundy, F Denmark, F Gulf of Lyon, A Kiel, A
Liverpool, A London, A Moscow, F North Sea, F Piedmont,
A Ruhr, F
Sweden, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F
Naples.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol,
Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris,
Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden, Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Munich.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.

Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 19 Supply centers, 16 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 1 Supply center, 4 Units: Removes 3 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.

DC-173 GAME END - BRITISH 19 CENTER SOLO VICTORY!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1911 - Rule Brittania! -... - alfordd   (Nov 13, 2008, 4:57 pm)
Thanks for the great game everyone, although a little belatedly. And congrats to Et on the solo win.

This was my first Diplomacy game online and the first in a few years. I've never played as Germany before and it certainly was not one of my top choices. It was fun to play though! I got a lot of mail early in the game.

From the beginning, Germany's plan was to work with France to eliminate England. With that corner safe, Germany and France would then turn east. I thought that between England and France, England was more of a threat for a backstab and the border could be more easily secured between France and Germany. Obviously, that didn't work out when France turned on Germany. With Austria and Turkey wiping out Russia with lightning speed, I frantically emailed France and England to see if one would turn on the other. By process of elimination, I joined up with England against France. France, seeing the threat f Austria and Turkey, allowed us to take SC's with little to no resistance as long as we worked to make sure Austria/Turkey would not win.

After France was taken, England focused on fleets in the south and Germany focused on armies. I kept my fleets around though because I knew I was going to have to turn on England at one time or another--or at least protect myself if England turned on me first.

Austria stabbed Turkey and Turkey send cries for help. Germany and England moved against Austria with Turkey's help for a little while. But Austria must have offered Turkey a better deal because all of a sudden, Turkey was working with Austria again. Then BAM, Austria and Turkey declare they have formed a stalemate line that England and Germany could not break. After careful examination, I verified their claim. Given Turkey's resolve to stick with Austria, England and Germany decided that a stalemate between 4 countries was not worth all of the time and effort put into the game thus far. Inspired by France's sacrifice so that Austria and Turkey would not get too powerful, Germany also gave up SC's. SC's transitioned to English control, and the rest, is history.

Final thoughts:
-When Et, Dom, and I talked, Dom and I both said we would rather take ourselves down as long as Austria did not win. And that's exactly what happened.
-I never trusted Austria.
-I still have no idea what went down with our first moderator. But I think I have an idea.
-If you want to write out your stories from your perspective, it would be fun to read and know what happened behind your back.
-I made A LOT of mistakes in movement and strategy. I wasted a few moves I didn't have to.
-Thanks again everyone. Thanks Trout, your emails were always fun to read. I'm kind of Diplomacy'd out for now, but hopefully we will meet again on the map.

Dennis




On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Well, lots of trick or treating going on tonight. And for Etienne, it's a treat. Fall 1911 rolls around and, to everyone's surprise it brings a British 19-center solo! (Oddly enough though, the solo proposal was voted down... Go figure.)

Congratulations to Etienne, as well as to all of our players for playing it right out to the end. EOG statements are very welcome - let us hear how the game went for you. The highs, the lows, the middles...


Thanks again to everyone for joining in the fun. We'll see you all in the next one!


Congratulations all! DC-173 is a wrap.


Gigabyte Trout




Movement results for Fall of 1911. (DC173 11 FALL)


Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.


England: A Berlin Supports A Munich.
England: A Burgundy, no move received.
England: F Denmark Hold.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Kiel Supports A Berlin.
England: A Liverpool Hold.
England: A London Hold.
England: A Moscow Supports A Warsaw.
England: F North Sea Hold.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: A Ruhr Supports A Munich.
England: F Sweden, no move received.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Moscow.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.


Germany: A Bohemia Hold.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: A Silesia Hold.
Germany: A Ukraine Hold.


Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.


Unit locations:


Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Berlin, A Burgundy, F Denmark, F Gulf of Lyon, A Kiel, A
Liverpool, A London, A Moscow, F North Sea, F Piedmont, A Ruhr, F
Sweden, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.


Ownership of supply centers:


Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris, Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden, Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Munich.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.


Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 19 Supply centers, 16 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 1 Supply center, 4 Units: Removes 3 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.


DC-173 GAME END - BRITISH 19 CENTER SOLO VICTORY!!

[Reply]

DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1911 - Rule Brittania! -... - former.trout   (Oct 31, 2008, 8:19 pm)
Well, lots of trick or treating going on tonight. And for Etienne, it's a treat. Fall 1911 rolls around and, to everyone's surprise it brings a British 19-center solo! (Oddly enough though, the solo proposal was voted down... Go figure.)

Congratulations to Etienne, as well as to all of our players for playing it right out to the end. EOG statements are very welcome - let us hear how the game went for you. The highs, the lows, the middles...


Thanks again to everyone for joining in the fun. We'll see you all in the next one!


Congratulations all! DC-173 is a wrap.


Gigabyte Trout




Movement results for Fall of 1911. (DC173 11 FALL)


Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.


England: A Berlin Supports A Munich.
England: A Burgundy, no move received.
England: F Denmark Hold.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Kiel Supports A Berlin.
England: A Liverpool Hold.
England: A London Hold.
England: A Moscow Supports A Warsaw.
England: F North Sea Hold.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: A Ruhr Supports A Munich.
England: F Sweden, no move received.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Moscow.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.


Germany: A Bohemia Hold.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: A Silesia Hold.
Germany: A Ukraine Hold.


Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.


Unit locations:


Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Berlin, A Burgundy, F Denmark, F Gulf of Lyon, A Kiel, A
Liverpool, A London, A Moscow, F North Sea, F Piedmont, A Ruhr, F
Sweden, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.


Ownership of supply centers:


Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris, Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden, Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Munich.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.


Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 19 Supply centers, 16 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 1 Supply center, 4 Units: Removes 3 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.


DC-173 GAME END - BRITISH 19 CENTER SOLO VICTORY!!

[Reply]

DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1911 - Rule Brittania! - British Solo (dc173) alfordd Nov 13, 04:57 pm
Thanks for the great game everyone, although a little belatedly. And congrats to Et on the solo win.

This was my first Diplomacy game online and the first in a few years. I've never played as Germany before and it certainly was not one of my top choices. It was fun to play though! I got a lot of mail early in the game.

From the beginning, Germany's plan was to work with France to eliminate England. With that corner safe, Germany and France would then turn east. I thought that between England and France, England was more of a threat for a backstab and the border could be more easily secured between France and Germany. Obviously, that didn't work out when France turned on Germany. With Austria and Turkey wiping out Russia with lightning speed, I frantically emailed France and England to see if one would turn on the other. By process of elimination, I joined up with England against France. France, seeing the threat f Austria and Turkey, allowed us to take SC's with little to no resistance as long as we worked to make sure Austria/Turkey would not win.

After France was taken, England focused on fleets in the south and Germany focused on armies. I kept my fleets around though because I knew I was going to have to turn on England at one time or another--or at least protect myself if England turned on me first.

Austria stabbed Turkey and Turkey send cries for help. Germany and England moved against Austria with Turkey's help for a little while. But Austria must have offered Turkey a better deal because all of a sudden, Turkey was working with Austria again. Then BAM, Austria and Turkey declare they have formed a stalemate line that England and Germany could not break. After careful examination, I verified their claim. Given Turkey's resolve to stick with Austria, England and Germany decided that a stalemate between 4 countries was not worth all of the time and effort put into the game thus far. Inspired by France's sacrifice so that Austria and Turkey would not get too powerful, Germany also gave up SC's. SC's transitioned to English control, and the rest, is history.

Final thoughts:
-When Et, Dom, and I talked, Dom and I both said we would rather take ourselves down as long as Austria did not win. And that's exactly what happened.
-I never trusted Austria.
-I still have no idea what went down with our first moderator. But I think I have an idea.
-If you want to write out your stories from your perspective, it would be fun to read and know what happened behind your back.
-I made A LOT of mistakes in movement and strategy. I wasted a few moves I didn't have to.
-Thanks again everyone. Thanks Trout, your emails were always fun to read. I'm kind of Diplomacy'd out for now, but hopefully we will meet again on the map.

Dennis




On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Well, lots of trick or treating going on tonight. And for Etienne, it's a treat. Fall 1911 rolls around and, to everyone's surprise it brings a British 19-center solo! (Oddly enough though, the solo proposal was voted down... Go figure.)

Congratulations to Etienne, as well as to all of our players for playing it right out to the end. EOG statements are very welcome - let us hear how the game went for you. The highs, the lows, the middles...


Thanks again to everyone for joining in the fun. We'll see you all in the next one!


Congratulations all! DC-173 is a wrap.


Gigabyte Trout




Movement results for Fall of 1911. (DC173 11 FALL)


Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.


England: A Berlin Supports A Munich.
England: A Burgundy, no move received.
England: F Denmark Hold.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Kiel Supports A Berlin.
England: A Liverpool Hold.
England: A London Hold.
England: A Moscow Supports A Warsaw.
England: F North Sea Hold.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: A Ruhr Supports A Munich.
England: F Sweden, no move received.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Moscow.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.


Germany: A Bohemia Hold.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: A Silesia Hold.
Germany: A Ukraine Hold.


Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.


Unit locations:


Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Berlin, A Burgundy, F Denmark, F Gulf of Lyon, A Kiel, A
Liverpool, A London, A Moscow, F North Sea, F Piedmont, A Ruhr, F
Sweden, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.


Ownership of supply centers:


Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris, Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden, Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Munich.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.


Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 19 Supply centers, 16 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 1 Supply center, 4 Units: Removes 3 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.


DC-173 GAME END - BRITISH 19 CENTER SOLO VICTORY!!

DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1911 - Rule Brittania! - British Solo (dc173) Ethanlx Nov 13, 06:05 pm
I have to echo Dennis' congrats to everyone.

England was my second choice after France. I didn't mind playing as
England but I knew that it would be difficult to leave the island.

Early on my goal was to be friendly to everyone, be honest the whole way
(if possible) and try to make an ally with either Germany or France. I
didn't care which one at first, as long as I had one. I knew how the
triangle between England, France and Germany usually plays out: if you
are the lone country you don't survive. France came early on and tried
to make friend. Germany was more noncommittal (and was building more
fleet than England cares to see). The pack with France was never a full
alliance (as far as I understood it). It was more a deal to attack
Germany and that's it. After France made a few mistakes (on purpose or
not), it seriously affected my view on France. I knew that he didn't
really want a full war on Germany and was making it difficult. At that
point, I could see Austria and Turkey getting along in the East and
growing while we were still doing nothing in the West. My guess is that
Germany saw that also and wanted to act. France didn't seemed (that
might not be correct, but it was my feeling) to cared about the East and
had a hard time convincing me that 3 countries (England, France and
Germany) could coexist. I knew I would get the raw end of that deal
further in the game. At that point, Germany offered me an alliance that
would see France gone and us moving East. I remember at the beginning
being very suspicious of Germany (I'm sure that Dennis felt the same
way). Those first moves really needed trust from both of us. One could
easily have turned on the other at that moment. The alliance with
Germany was a very good one as (in my opinion again) nobody was selfish
and communication was excellent.

Early in the game I was surprised to see Russia so aggressive toward
Norway (a neutral SC that normally goes to England without question in
the beginning) and didn't even talk about an alliance or cooperation
(didn't look good early on). I deduced that Russia wanted to scared me
and focused more on Austria and Turkey. This seemed like a good place to
start.

Turkey was receptive early on to cooperation (an alliance of Turkey and
England is a very good one statistically)! Because of the distance early
on, we kept in touch every year or so. Me asking what was going on the
the East and him asking me about the West. I tried to tell him as much
as I could but it was still a mess (he probably though that I didn't
want to say too much, but it was more that I too didn't know). Turkey's
flip flop between Austria and us later in the game didn't inspire
confidence and upon consultation with Germany we decided not to include
him in our plan anymore by fear of him telling Austria. A 3-way tie
between Turkey, Germany and England would have been totally acceptable
to me toward the middle of the game and would probably have succeeded.

I had almost no dealings with Italy as neither of us was really useful
to the other. It's hard to cooperate when gains are not mutual.

I thought early on that Austria was probably a good player but made it
too obvious in my opinion. Looking too strong, too fast makes for other
countries to join forces to protect themselves and stop you!!! Austria
really only offered me one deal and it was really in his favour. That
didn't give me the confidence needed in an ally. I knew that other
players in my region (the West) had had bad dealing with him and
proceeded with caution. Austria really seemed to understand that this
was a game when I had to take SCs from him and seemed interested in the
challenge! I knew that GMs and some countries had other opinions.

Toward the end, it seemed that everyone was a little bit tired and
wanted the game over (me included sometimes). It became clear that it
would be a 4-way tie and I didn't mind that, even though it seemed like
a lot of effort for nothing and I would have been happy to help either
Austria or Turkey get rid of the other one to change it to a 3-way tie.
I really wanted Germany to have a part of the win since he had been a
really good ally and though that it was unfair that I would get the
solo. But he seemed more interested in me winning than having the other
player share the win. I knew that France would be happy that way.

I also made a lot of mistakes and wish I could have played differently.
I felt really exposed the whole game having units _everywhere_.

I hope that everyone will write one of these even if they didn't enjoy
the game or left early on.

I don't think I'll play Diplomacy any time soon but will surely come
back eventually.

I also have an idea what happen to our first moderator but would be
interested in really finding what happen.

Thanks to Trout for the hard work, to everyone for staying until the end
and to Dennis who was a fantastic ally.

Etienne aka England

Dennis Alford wrote:

Thanks for the great game everyone, although a little belatedly. And
congrats to Et on the solo win.

This was my first Diplomacy game online and the first in a few years.
I've never played as Germany before and it certainly was not one of my
top choices. It was fun to play though! I got a lot of mail early in
the game.

From the beginning, Germany's plan was to work with France to
eliminate England. With that corner safe, Germany and France would
then turn east. I thought that between England and France, England
was more of a threat for a backstab and the border could be more
easily secured between France and Germany. Obviously, that didn't
work out when France turned on Germany. With Austria and Turkey
wiping out Russia with lightning speed, I frantically emailed France
and England to see if one would turn on the other. By process of
elimination, I joined up with England against France. France, seeing
the threat f Austria and Turkey, allowed us to take SC's with little
to no resistance as long as we worked to make sure Austria/Turkey
would not win.

After France was taken, England focused on fleets in the south and
Germany focused on armies. I kept my fleets around though because I
knew I was going to have to turn on England at one time or another--or
at least protect myself if England turned on me first.

Austria stabbed Turkey and Turkey send cries for help. Germany and
England moved against Austria with Turkey's help for a little while.
But Austria must have offered Turkey a better deal because all of a
sudden, Turkey was working with Austria again. Then BAM, Austria and
Turkey declare they have formed a stalemate line that England and
Germany could not break. After careful examination, I verified their
claim. Given Turkey's resolve to stick with Austria, England and
Germany decided that a stalemate between 4 countries was not worth all
of the time and effort put into the game thus far. Inspired by
France's sacrifice so that Austria and Turkey would not get too
powerful, Germany also gave up SC's. SC's transitioned to English
control, and the rest, is history.

Final thoughts:
-When Et, Dom, and I talked, Dom and I both said we would rather take
ourselves down as long as Austria did not win. And that's exactly
what happened.
-I never trusted Austria.
-I still have no idea what went down with our first moderator. But I
think I have an idea.
-If you want to write out your stories from your perspective, it would
be fun to read and know what happened behind your back.
-I made A LOT of mistakes in movement and strategy. I wasted a few
moves I didn't have to.
-Thanks again everyone. Thanks Trout, your emails were always fun to
read. I'm kind of Diplomacy'd out for now, but hopefully we will meet
again on the map.

Dennis




On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com
<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, lots of trick or treating going on tonight. And for
Etienne, it's a treat. Fall 1911 rolls around and, to everyone's
surprise it brings a British 19-center solo! (Oddly enough
though, the solo proposal was voted down... Go figure.)

Congratulations to Etienne, as well as to all of our players for
playing it right out to the end. EOG statements are very welcome
- let us hear how the game went for you. The highs, the lows, the
middles...

Thanks again to everyone for joining in the fun. We'll see you
all in the next one!

Congratulations all! DC-173 is a wrap.

Gigabyte Trout


Movement results for Fall of 1911. (DC173 11 FALL)

Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.

England: A Berlin Supports A Munich.
England: A Burgundy, no move received.
England: F Denmark Hold.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Kiel Supports A Berlin.
England: A Liverpool Hold.
England: A London Hold.
England: A Moscow Supports A Warsaw.
England: F North Sea Hold.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: A Ruhr Supports A Munich.
England: F Sweden, no move received.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Moscow.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.

Germany: A Bohemia Hold.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: A Silesia Hold.
Germany: A Ukraine Hold.

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A
Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Berlin, A Burgundy, F Denmark, F Gulf of Lyon, A Kiel, A
Liverpool, A London, A Moscow, F North Sea, F Piedmont,
A Ruhr, F
Sweden, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F
Naples.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol,
Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris,
Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden, Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Munich.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.

Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 19 Supply centers, 16 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 1 Supply center, 4 Units: Removes 3 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.

DC-173 GAME END - BRITISH 19 CENTER SOLO VICTORY!!

DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1911 Deadline Reminder - former.trout   (Oct 30, 2008, 11:02 pm)
Heya OK Computer fans,

Just a reminder that the Fall of 1911 comes rocking to you in just under 20 hours. Also, if you have a vote for the English solo proposal now would be a good time to cast it...


Cheers!


Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 1911 - Columbo - former.trout   (Oct 27, 2008, 8:37 am)
Ok Computer!

Apologies for the late turn adjudication. Continuing on under the heading of GM stupidity, I thought I was short a set of orders. However, I had these all along and they were simply filed into the wrong email folder. Sorry folks.

In any case, on the Diplomatic front your humble GM missed proposing an English solo. We'll put this forward to the group with the Spring turn and I'll ask for your yay or nay votes to be handed in with Fall 1911 orders. Meanwhile, on the board, asides from the English Eastern shuffle all else is static.

Deadline for Fall 1911 and your English Solo proposal votes will be set for Friday, October 31st (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout

Movement results for Spring of 1911. (DC173 11 SPR)

Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.

England: A Belgium - Ruhr.
England: A Burgundy Supports A Munich.
England: F Edinburgh - North Sea.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Holland - Kiel.
England: A Kiel - Berlin.
England: A Liverpool Hold.
England: A London Hold.
England: A Moscow Supports A Ukraine.
England: F North Sea - Denmark.
England: F Norway - Sweden.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Ukraine.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.

Germany: A Bohemia Hold.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: A Silesia Hold.
Germany: A Ukraine Hold.

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Berlin, A Burgundy, F Denmark, F Gulf of Lyon, A Kiel, A
Liverpool, A London, A Moscow, F North Sea, F Piedmont, A Ruhr, F
Sweden, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, London,
Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris, Portugal, Spain, St Petersburg,
Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Munich, Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.

Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 16 Supply centers, 16 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1911 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31ST (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 Spring 1911 Deadline Extension - former.trout   (Oct 21, 2008, 8:54 pm)
Hi folks,

Looks as though we have a couple travelling players this turn. To help accommodate their schedules, we'll push the DC-173 Spring 11 deadline a few days to Saturday, October 25th (11:59 PM GMT).


Thanks guys,


Trout

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DC-173 OK Computer - Winter 1910 - Valium Skies - former.trout   (Oct 17, 2008, 9:42 am)
Heya gang,

Thanks for the patience while I fought my battles with the net. But Winter 1910 comes, regardless of equipment malfunctions... England builds two armies and a fleet in Edinburgh. The Kaiser, meanwhile, disbands in Prussia, Galicia and Tyrolia. And the battle continues.


Deadline for Spring 1911 orders will be set for Wednesday, October 22nd (11:59 PM GMT). Enjoy the battlefield, folks!


Jolly Old Elf Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1910 Canadian Turkeys - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 13, 2008, 7:28 pm)
Trout asked me to forward this on to ya’ll this evening while he fusses with his Mac.
-mike

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DC173 Ok Computer Fall 1910 - Canadian Turkeys

Hey folks,

Hope this all finds you well and happy on this fine Canadian Thanksgiving evening. England is the big winner in the European lottery as German flags across the continent are hauled down and replaced with the Union Jack. As the British wave sweeps across the land, not much changes in the south though...

No retreats are required - deadline for Winter 1910 adjustments will be set for Wednesday, October 15th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers everyone!

Turkey-Gobbler Trout

Movement results for Fall of 1910. (DC173 10 FALL)

Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.

England: A Burgundy Supports A Munich.
England: A Edinburgh - Holland.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Holland - Kiel.
England: A Moscow Supports A Ukraine.
England: F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland.
England: F Norwegian Sea - Norway.
England: A Picardy - Belgium.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Galicia.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.

Germany: A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Galicia Supports A Ukraine.
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Prussia Supports A Silesia.
Germany: A Silesia Supports A Galicia.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports F Piedmont.
Germany: A Ukraine Supports A Galicia.

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Belgium, A Burgundy, F Gulf of Lyon, A Holland, A Kiel, A Moscow,
F North Sea, F Norway, F Piedmont, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A
Warsaw, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Galicia, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia, A Tyrolia, A
Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, London,
Marseilles, Moscow, Norway, Paris, Portugal, Spain, St Petersburg,
Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Munich, Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.

Austria: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 16 Supply centers, 13 Units: Builds 3 units.
France: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 4 Supply centers, 7 Units: Removes 3 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1910 ADJUSTMENTS DUE WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1910 Deadline Reminder - former.trout   (Oct 13, 2008, 8:24 am)
Heya gang,

Sorry for the short deadline reminder... Having some equipment troubles at home and have to send this from work. Please consider this a gentle rumble that the deadline for Fall 1910 lies in just under 11 hours.

Cheers all!

Trout

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DC173 - Spring 1910 Extension - former.trout   (Oct 01, 2008, 8:06 am)
Hi folks,

It seems our evil internet gnomes have struck again and Jeff is currently having a little technical difficulty. We'll extend the Spring 1910 deadline to Monday, October 6th (11:59 PM GMT) to give him time to nurse his connection back to health.

Cheers all!

Trout

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jclark21 <jclark21(at)rbksch.org ([email]jclark21(at)rbksch.org[/email])>
Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:27 AM
Subject: DC173: Turkey email problems
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])


FT,

This is Jeff Clark from DC173 (tacodile(at)blueyonder.co.uk ([email]tacodile(at)blueyonder.co.uk[/email]))

My home email isn't working, and I can't access that account
from work either (blocked), so could I ask you to please
notify the other players that I'm incommunicado, and could I
ask you to halt the deadline for a few days until I get it
back? (The cable company says they have to replace a box
somewhere and they don't know how long it will take...)

Thanks,

Jeff clark

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DC173 OK Computer - Return of Player, Return of GM... - former.trout   (Jul 31, 2008, 9:09 am)
Heya guys,

My most sincere apologies for the delay in getting the winter adjudication out. Paolo has happily returned, and your humble GM has happily gotten his act together. (My four year old nephews safely packed away and taken home from the cottage, I now find myself with the time to dial up the internet...)

In any event, the winter builds arrive as listed below. After this slight stumble, we now revert to our regular schedule... Deadline for Spring 1907 orders will be set for Wednesday, August 6th (11:59 PM GMT)...

Cheers everyone. Thanks again for the patience this last week..

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 1906. (DC173 06 WIN)

Austria: Build A Vienna.
Austria: Build A Trieste.

England: Build F London.
England: Build F Liverpool.

Germany: Build A Berlin.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Galicia, F Greece, A Piedmont, A Sevastopol, A Trieste, A Tyrolia,
A Ukraine, A Venice, A Vienna, A Warsaw.
England: F Gulf of Lyon, F Liverpool, A Livonia, F London, A Marseilles, F
Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A St Petersburg, F Tunis.
France: F Naples, A Rome, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Burgundy, F Gulf of Bothnia, F
Holland, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, F Apulia, F Ionian Sea, A Smyrna.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Norway, Spain, St
Petersburg, Tunis.
France: Naples, Portugal, Rome.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Paris,
Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.

Austria: 10 Supply centers, 10 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 8 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 3 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1907 ORDERS DUE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 6TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Winter 1907 - On Planet Off - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya guys,

Four fresh new builds arrive on the board with the winter turn - in Vienna, London, Constantinople and Berlin. Meanwhile, a slight correction to the French units is made as the French premier prefers to disband rather than retreat to Tuscany. While not yet eliminated, my thanks go to Dom for playing this out...

So we cruise on into Spring 1908 - deadline will be set for Monday, September 1st (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers!

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 1907. (DC173 07 WIN)

Austria: Build A Vienna.

England: Build F London.

Germany: Build A Berlin.

Turkey: Build A Constantinople.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Bohemia, A Budapest, A Galicia, F Greece, A Rome, A Sevastopol, A
Tyrolia, A Ukraine, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: F Brest, F Gulf of Lyon, A Livonia, F London, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean,
A Piedmont, A St Petersburg, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
France:
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Berlin, A Burgundy, F English Channel, F Gulf of
Bothnia, A Moscow, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia.
Turkey: F Apulia, A Armenia, A Constantinople, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Norway, Spain, St
Petersburg, Tunis.
France: Portugal.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Paris,
Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.


NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1908 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 Spring 1908 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya folks,

Just sending out a grumble that Spring 1908 orders are due in roughly 10.5 hours. Cheers!

Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Winter 1907 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya DC173ers...

Sorry for the late deadline reminder.. Winter 07 adjustments are due in approximately 7 hours..

Cheers!

Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1907 - Gravity - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya folks,

Things get a little serious for the French as Italy is chopped up between Turkey and Austria. Meanwhile, Germany scores some successes in the north with a whole lotta help from their English friends.

There was one retreat required from the French, but with only Tuscany for it to go to I took the liberty. (Dom, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.) Otherwise we'll head on into the Winter adjustments - where the four major powers gain a build each. Deadline for Winter 07 will be set for Monday, August 25th (11:59 PM GMT).

Just a note - I will be travelling back west over the next 3 days - and though I should have internet access at the hotels you can never really count on these things. If I am not as responsive over the next little bit, this is why...

Cheers all!

Trout

Movement results for Fall of 1907. (DC173 07 EW)

Austria: A Bohemia - Silesia (*Fails*).
Austria: A Budapest - Galicia (*Fails*).
Austria: A Galicia - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Austria: F Greece - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
Austria: A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Fails*).
Austria: A Tuscany - Rome.
Austria: A Tyrolia Supports A Bohemia (*Ordered to Move*).
Austria: A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Warsaw.
Austria: A Venice Supports A Tuscany - Rome.

England: F English Channel - Brest.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont.
England: F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
England: A Livonia Supports A Warsaw - Moscow.
England: A Piedmont Hold.
England: A St Petersburg Supports A Warsaw - Moscow.
England: F Tunis Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea.

France: A Rome Hold (*Disbanded*).
France: F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports A Rome (*Dislodged*).

Germany: F Baltic Sea Supports A Prussia.
Germany: F Belgium - English Channel.
Germany: A Burgundy Supports A Munich.
Germany: F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Livonia.
Germany: A Munich Supports A Burgundy.
Germany: A Prussia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Silesia - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Warsaw - Moscow.

Turkey: F Apulia Supports F Greece - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
Turkey: F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*).
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Tuscany - Rome.
Turkey: A Smyrna - Armenia.


Retreat orders for Fall of 1907. (DC173 07 EW)

France: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tuscany.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Bohemia, A Budapest, A Galicia, F Greece, A Rome, A Sevastopol, A
Tyrolia, A Ukraine, A Venice.
England: F Brest, F Gulf of Lyon, A Livonia, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A
Piedmont, A St Petersburg, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
France: F Tuscany.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Burgundy, F English Channel, F Gulf of Bothnia, A
Moscow, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia.
Turkey: F Apulia, A Armenia, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Norway, Spain, St
Petersburg, Tunis.
France: Portugal.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Paris,
Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.

Austria: 10 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 1 unit.
England: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 1 unit.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1907 ADJUSTMENTS DUE MONDAY, AUGUST 25TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1907 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya heya,

Just sending the rumble out that Fall 1907 orders are due in 20.5 hours or so. I have two sets in - am missing three. Please rope them together, wet em down and send em on over..

Cheers,

Trout

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DC173 - Fall 07 Extension - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya gang,

I've had an extension request come my way for the Fall 1907 turn. We'll reschedule the Fall for tomorrow - Wednesday, August 20th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers!

Trout

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DC173 Ok Computer - Revised Fall 1907 Deadline - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya folks,

Your humble GM went and stuck his foot in his mouth again, unfortunately. I've set the Fall 1907 deadline for this coming up Tuesday (the 12th.) However, this would make it pretty difficult for Jeff to get orders in, as he is on vacation without access until the 18th. He notified me about this trip but I missed seeing it marked in my game-notes when originally setting the deadline.

So, with my apologies, we will revise the Fall 07 deadline. [u:7698fdf167]Orders will be due on Tuesday, August 19th (11:59 PM GMT)[/u:7698fdf167].

Cheers!

Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 1907 - The Devil, You +... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya folks,

Okay - so there was some confusion there about the Spring 1907 deadline. Actually, I think it was just me that was confused. A non-responsive dial-up connection made the issue a moot point last night though, so here we are with the Spring 07 adjudication. A day late - or right on time.... Whichever. =P

In any case, its an eventful Spring. Austria gains ground in Bohemia disbanding the German army stationed there. But things are not all rosy for the Arch-duke as the Austrian army in Warsaw is disbanded in turn. And as all things come in threes, the French Naples force is disbanded as well...

One retreat to speak of but there was only one option so I took the liberty. The Austrian army in Piedmont was retreated to Tuscany - Paolo, if OTB is preferred please just let me know.

And aside from that we move onto Fall 1907. Deadline for orders will be set for Tuesday, August 12th (11:59 PM GMT). As always, please just let me know if you spot any errors...

Cheers!

Trout

Movement results for Spring of 1907. (DC173 07 SUM)

Austria: A Galicia Supports A Warsaw - Silesia (*Cut*).
Austria: F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Piedmont Supports A Tyrolia (*Dislodged*).
Austria: A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Trieste - Budapest.
Austria: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna - Bohemia.
Austria: A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Moscow.
Austria: A Venice - Rome (*Fails*).
Austria: A Vienna - Bohemia.
Austria: A Warsaw - Silesia (*Disbanded*).

England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont.
England: F Liverpool - Irish Sea.
England: A Livonia - Moscow (*Bounce*).
England: F London - English Channel.
England: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
England: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
England: A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia - Moscow.
England: F Tunis Hold.

France: F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea (*Disbanded*).
France: A Rome Supports F Naples (*Cut*).
France: F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports A Rome.

Germany: F Baltic Sea Hold.
Germany: A Berlin - Silesia.
Germany: A Bohemia - Galicia (*Disbanded*).
Germany: A Burgundy Hold.
Germany: F Gulf of Bothnia Hold.
Germany: F Holland - Belgium.
Germany: A Munich Supports A Berlin - Silesia.
Germany: A Prussia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Silesia - Warsaw.

Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea.
Turkey: F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea - Naples.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea - Naples.
Turkey: A Smyrna Hold.


Retreat orders for Spring of 1907. (DC173 07 SUM)

Austria: A Piedmont - Tuscany.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Bohemia, A Budapest, A Galicia, F Greece, A Sevastopol, A Tuscany,
A Tyrolia, A Ukraine, A Venice.
England: F English Channel, F Gulf of Lyon, F Irish Sea, A Livonia, A
Piedmont, A St Petersburg, F Tunis, F Western Mediterranean.
France: A Rome, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Gulf of Bothnia, A Munich, A
Prussia, A Silesia, A Warsaw.
Turkey: F Apulia, F Ionian Sea, F Naples, A Smyrna.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Norway, Spain, St
Petersburg, Tunis.
France: Naples, Portugal, Rome.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Paris,
Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.


NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1907 ORDERS DUE TUESDAY, AUGUST 12TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 07 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya guys,

I don't want to work - i want to bang on de gong all day.. Well, that and adjudicate the Spring 1907 turn for DC-173... Orders are due in roughly 17 hours - send em if you got em.

Thanks!

Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 1908 - Hands On Us - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya folks,

Interesting moves on both sides of the board as Germany steams into Brest and Turkey takes hold of Naples. Meanwhile, despite best efforts, Austria can't pull the plug on the German move into Warsaw...

No retreats are required - we cruise onwards into Fall 1908. Deadline for Fall orders will be set for Monday, September 8th (11:59 PM GMT).

Just let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers!

Trout

Movement results for Spring of 1908. (DC173 08 SPR)

Austria: A Bohemia - Silesia (*Fails*).
Austria: A Budapest - Trieste.
Austria: A Galicia Supports A Ukraine - Warsaw.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Apulia - Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome - Tuscany.
Austria: A Sevastopol - Ukraine (*Fails*).
Austria: A Tyrolia - Piedmont (*Fails*).
Austria: A Ukraine - Warsaw (*Fails*).
Austria: A Venice Supports A Tyrolia - Piedmont.
Austria: A Vienna - Budapest.

England: F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont.
England: A Livonia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw.
England: F London - English Channel.
England: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
England: A Piedmont Hold.
England: A St Petersburg Supports A Moscow.
England: F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.

Germany: F Baltic Sea Supports F Gulf of Bothnia.
Germany: A Berlin - Silesia.
Germany: A Burgundy Supports A Munich.
Germany: F English Channel - Brest.
Germany: F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F Baltic Sea.
Germany: A Moscow Supports A Silesia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Munich Supports A Berlin - Silesia.
Germany: A Prussia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Silesia - Warsaw.

Turkey: F Apulia - Ionian Sea.
Turkey: A Armenia - Sevastopol (*Fails*).
Turkey: A Constantinople - Smyrna.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea - Naples.
Turkey: F Naples - Rome.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Bohemia, A Budapest, A Galicia, F Greece, A Sevastopol, A Trieste,
A Tuscany, A Tyrolia, A Ukraine, A Venice.
England: F English Channel, F Gulf of Lyon, A Livonia, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean,
A Piedmont, A St Petersburg, F Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, F Brest, A Burgundy, F Gulf of Bothnia, A Moscow, A
Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia, A Warsaw.
Turkey: A Armenia, F Ionian Sea, F Naples, F Rome, A Smyrna.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Norway, Spain, St
Petersburg, Tunis.
France: Portugal.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Paris,
Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.


NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1908 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Fall 1908 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
11100001110000110000101010111000011

Which is NOT binary for Fall 1908 orders due in 19 hours... Nevertheless, that is the Fall 08 deadline. Not all moves are in yet - please doublecheck for confirmations from me and send em my way if you don't have one.


Cheers!


Binary Trout

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DC173 - Spring 1903 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya guys,

Just a gentle elbow-poke from your humble GM that Spring 1903 orders are due in just about 22.5 hours.


Cheers!


Trout

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 1910 - Noise Epic - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya Players,

Things in the east remain relatively dead-locked. The situation in the west - much more fluid. No retreats are required so we'll move right into the Fall 1910 turn. Will things remain on the same track or are there still a few unseen forks in the road? Deadline will be set for Monday, October 13th (11:59 PM GMT).


Battle onwards! Cheers!


Trout




Movement results for Spring of 1910. (DC173 10 SPR)


Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.


England: F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Liverpool - Edinburgh.
England: A London - Holland.
England: A Marseilles - Burgundy.
England: A Moscow Supports A Ukraine.
England: F North Sea Convoys A London - Holland.
England: A Paris - Picardy.
England: F Piedmont Hold.
England: F Tunis Hold.
England: F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
England: A Warsaw Supports A Galicia.
England: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.


Germany: A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Galicia Supports A Ukraine.
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Prussia Supports A Silesia.
Germany: A Silesia Supports A Galicia.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports F Piedmont.
Germany: A Ukraine Supports A Galicia.


Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.


Unit locations:


Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: A Burgundy, A Edinburgh, F Gulf of Lyon, A Holland, A Moscow, F
North Sea, F Norwegian Sea, A Picardy, F Piedmont, F Tunis, F
Tyrrhenian Sea, A Warsaw, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Bohemia, A Galicia, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia, A Tyrolia, A
Ukraine.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.


Ownership of supply centers:


Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Moscow, Norway,
Paris, Portugal, Spain, St Petersburg, Tunis, Warsaw.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.




NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1910 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, OCTOBER 13TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 1910 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya folks,

Just sending the heads-up that Spring 1910 orders are due in about 19.5 hours... I got word from Jeff saying that his email was back and firing on all cylinders so we're all good on that score.


Cheers everyone,


Trout

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