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That leaves only our erstwhile Austrian.
Can we call this a Game?


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From: dc116 <dc116(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc116(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
To: dc116(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc116(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:03:15 PM
Subject: Re: dc116 draw prop




Hi All
I'll vote yes. I don't think we can stop them.

Regards Neil


From: Michael Sims [mailto:mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])]
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 1:34 AM
To: Former Trout; dc116
Cc: Doug Colex; Jason K; Jorge Saralegui; Neil Smark
Subject: dc116 draw prop


Hey guys I'll suggest a concession to E/R here. Their progress is eventual and unavoidable in time, but it'll take another 20 turns to play out naturally. A 2-way draw cant be improved on by getting more centers… only by getting a solo, so it's the 2nd best result possible. There is no point to the game, as it's just a controlled fallback over the next 20 or so turns. So what do you all want?

I'll vote yes.
-mike



From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:06 PM
To: dc116
Cc: Doug Colex; Jason K; Jorge Saralegui; Michael Sims; Neil Smark; Steve Lytton
Subject: DC116 Vogon's Revenge - Spring 1913 - Broken Breads


In Tyrolia we'll beat you
Said Green, and Yellow too
But the White
Kept smiling bright
Knowing Marseilles would turn bright blue

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Hey gang, thanks for the patience during that minor delay. Onwards we move into the Spring turns, where Turkey and Italy indeed team up to overpower the Tsar in Tyrolia. However, the tag team duo gets out-muscled in turn as England bulldogs their way into Marseilles.

Only one retreat from the Spring moves, but it was an automatic disband with no valid retreat. In Marseilles, of course, the Italian met a bitter end. With that, Fall 1913 approaches - we'll set the deadline for Tuesday, February 26th (11:59 PM GMT).

As always, please let me know if you spot any mistakes. Cheers!

Trout
DC-116
Vogon's Revenge
A Standard Game
Game Started:





Current Turn:
Spring 1913

Next Deadline:
Fall 1913 Orders
Tuesday, February 26th (11:59 PM GMT)



The Rowdy Cast

Austria:
Doug Colex


dcolex1(at)netzero.net ([email]dcolex1(at)netzero.net[/email]) (dcolex1(at)netzero.net ([email]dcolex1(at)netzero.net[/email]))
England:
Jason K.
Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email]) (Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email]))
France:
Dem Young
demjyoung(at)yahoo.com ([email]demjyoung(at)yahoo.com[/email]) (demjyoung(at)yahoo.com ([email]demjyoung(at)yahoo.com[/email]))
Germany:
Mikael Johannsen
m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]) (m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]))
Italy:
Neil Smark
smark6(at)ozemail.com.au ([email]smark6(at)ozemail.com.au[/email]) (smark6(at)ozemail.com.au ([email]smark6(at)ozemail.com.au[/email]))
Russia:
Jorge Saralegui
jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email]) (jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email]))
Turkey:
Mike Sims
mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) (mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]))



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) (former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]))





CURRENT SEASON:



SPRING 1913 ORDERS:



AUSTRIA:

bud holds
OK


ENGLAND:

A Burgundy Supports F Spain(sc) - Marseilles
OK
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
OK
A Gascony Supports F Spain(sc) - Marseilles
OK
A Holland - Belgium
OK
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
[BOUNCE with MAO 1:1]
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
[BOUNCE with WME 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
OK
F North Sea Hold
OK
F Portugal - Spain(sc)
OK
F Spain(sc) - Marseilles
OK


ITALY:

Fleet Marseilles – Spain (sc)
[DEFEATED & DISBANDED by SPA 3:2]
Fleet Gulf of Lyon support Fleet Marseilles – Spain (sc)
OK
Fleet North Africa [GM NOTE: UNORDERED - HOLDS]
OK
Army Piedmont support army Trieste - Tyrolia
OK
Army Venice support army Trieste – Tyrolia
OK


RUSSIA:

A Swe H
OK
F Stp H
OK
F Sev H
OK
A Mos S F Sev
OK
A Ukr S F Sev
OK
A Vie-Tyr
[DEFEATED by TRI 3:2]
A Mun S A Vie-Tyr
OK
A Gal-Vie
[BOUNCE with VIE 1:1]
A Boh S A Gal-Vie
OK
A War-Gal
[BOUNCE with GAL 1:1]


TURKEY:

F ION-ADR
OK
F WMS S Mar-Spa/sc
[CUT by MAO]
A Tri-Tyr
OK
A Bul-Ser
OK
A Con-Bul
OK
F Black S Rum
OK
A Rum S Bud
OK
F Arm-Sev
[BOUNCE with SEV 1:3]


SUMMER 1913 RETREATS:

Italian F Marseilles is Automatically Disbanded





UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

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AUSTRIA:

1 Supply Center - Bud

1 Army - Bud

0 Fleets -



ENGLAND:

10 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Bre, Bel, Lvp, Hol, Par, Spa, Nwy, Por

3 Armies - Bur, Gas, Bel

7 Fleets - Mar, Iri, Mao, Spa(sc), Nth, Eng, Nao



ITALY:

5 Supply Centers - Nap, Rom, Tun, Mar, Ven

2 Armies - Ven, Pie

2 Fleets - Naf, Gol



RUSSIA:

10 Supply Centers - Mos, War, Sev, Stp, Swe, Kie, Mun, Den, Vie, Ber

7 Armies - Vie, Boh, Gal, War, Ukr, Mos, Mun

3 Fleets - Swe, Sev, Stp(nc)



TURKEY:

8 Supply Centers - Ank, Con, Smy, Gre, Bul, Ber, Ser, Rum, Tri

4 Armies - Rum, Ser, Tyl, Bul

4 Fleets - Wme, Bla, Adr, Arm



GERMANY - ELIMINATED 1906



FRANCE - ELIMINATED 1908




NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1913 ORDERS DUE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!











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'Your poetry is REALLY bad'
The players said, all very mad
'Our ears have bled,
Brain cells gone dead -
Please stop it now you heartless cad!!'

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And how could I refuse a request like that? Yes, the DIAS draw passes with five enthusiastic votes and peace falls on the European continent once more. For the sake of things, I ran through the Fall 1913 adjudication but it changes little and the board remains dead-locked. Therefore, this game is one for the books. My thanks and congratulations to all you players for playing this one out to the bitter end. It was a hard-fought one, that's for sure. End-of-game statements are, of course, very welcome.

For the record, for all of you folks who watched what I did, shrugged their shoulders and said 'Meh, I could do that,' then have I got an offer for you.. Diplomaticcorp is currently looking for GM's to step up and put me in my place. Whether you have lots of experience, or have never GM'd a single game, we'd love to have you. If you're interested (and I *know* you are) just drop me, Sims or Penger a line...

Once again, my hearty congratulations to you guys for the draw. Thanks for putting up with all the horrendous poetry with nary a protest.. =)

Cheers!

Trout

DC-116 Vogon's Revenge A Standard Game Game Started:




Current Turn: Fall 1913
GAME RESULT: 1913 DIAS (England, Russia, Turkey, Italy, Austria)


The Rowdy Cast
Austria: Doug Colex dcolex1(at)netzero.net ([email]dcolex1(at)netzero.net[/email]) England: Jason K. Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email]) France: Dem Young demjyoung(at)yahoo.com ([email]demjyoung(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Germany: Mikael Johannsen m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Italy: Neil Smark smark6(at)ozemail.com.au ([email]smark6(at)ozemail.com.au[/email]) Russia: Jorge Saralegui jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email]) Turkey: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])


Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])



CURRENT SEASON:


FALL 1913 END-GAME PROPOSAL:
DRAW INCLUDING ALL SURVIVORS - PASSES!!!


FALL 1913 ORDERS:


TURKEY:
F WMS S GOL OK A Tyr Holds OK F ADR-Tri OK A Ser S Bud OK A Bul S Rum OK F Black S Rum OK F Arm-Sev [BOUNCE with SEV 1:1] [GM NOTE: A RUM UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK

AUSTRIA:
a Bud holds OK

ENGLAND:
A Belgium - Picardy OK A Burgundy Supports F Marseilles OK F English Channel Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean OK A Gascony Supports F Spain(sc) OK F Irish Sea Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean OK F Marseilles Supports F Spain(sc) [CUT by PIE] F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal OK F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean OK F North Sea Hold OK F Spain(sc) Supports F Marseilles OK

ITALY:
Fleet North Africa support Western Mediterranean OK Fleet Gulf of Lyon supports Western Mediterranean OK Army Piedmont – Marseilles [BOUNCE with MAR 1:3] Army Venice Support Tyrolia OK

RUSSIA:
F Swe H OK F StP H OK F Sev H OK A Mos S F Sev OK A Ukr-Rum [BOUNCE with RUM 1:3] A Gal-Bud [BOUNCE with BUD 2:2] A War-Gal [BOUNCE with GAL 1:1] A Vie S A Gal-Bud OK A Boh S A Vie OK A Mun-Tyr [BOUNCE with TYL 1:1]

WINTER 1913 ADJUSTMENTS:
Turkey: No Adjustments Austria: No Adjustments England: BUILDS 1 Italy: No Adjustments Russia: No Adjustments



UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
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TURKEY:
8 Supply Centers - Ank, Con, Smy, Gre, Bul, Ber, Ser, Rum, Tri
4 Armies - Rum, Ser, Tyl, Bul
4 Fleets - Wme, Bla, Tri, Arm


AUSTRIA:
1 Supply Center - Bud
1 Army - Bud
0 Fleets -


ENGLAND: BUILDS 1
11 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Bre, Bel, Lvp, Hol, Par, Spa, Nwy, Por, Mar
3 Armies - Bur, Gas, Pic
7 Fleets - Mar, Iri, Por, Spa(sc), Nth, Eng, Mao


ITALY:
4 Supply Centers - Nap, Rom, Tun, Ven
2 Armies - Ven, Pie
2 Fleets - Naf, Gol


RUSSIA:
10 Supply Centers - Mos, War, Sev, Stp, Swe, Kie, Mun, Den, Vie, Ber
7 Armies - Vie, Boh, Gal, War, Ukr, Mos, Mun
3 Fleets - Swe, Sev, Stp(nc)


GERMANY - ELIMINATED 1906


FRANCE - ELIMINATED 1908



GAME RESULT: 1913 DRAW INCLUDING ALL SURVIVORS (Turkey / Russia / England / Austria / Italy)

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'Your poetry is REALLY bad'
The players said, all very mad
'Our ears have bled,
Brain cells gone dead -
Please stop it now you heartless cad!!'

---------------------------------------------------------

And how could I refuse a request like that? Yes, the DIAS draw passes with five enthusiastic votes and peace falls on the European continent once more. For the sake of things, I ran through the Fall 1913 adjudication but it changes little and the board remains dead-locked. Therefore, this game is one for the books. My thanks and congratulations to all you players for playing this one out to the bitter end. It was a hard-fought one, that's for sure. End-of-game statements are, of course, very welcome.

For the record, for all of you folks who watched what I did, shrugged their shoulders and said 'Meh, I could do that,' then have I got an offer for you.. Diplomaticcorp is currently looking for GM's to step up and put me in my place. Whether you have lots of experience, or have never GM'd a single game, we'd love to have you. If you're interested (and I *know* you are) just drop me, Sims or Penger a line...

Once again, my hearty congratulations to you guys for the draw. Thanks for putting up with all the horrendous poetry with nary a protest.. =)

Cheers!

Trout

DC-116 Vogon's Revenge A Standard Game Game Started:




Current Turn: Fall 1913
GAME RESULT: 1913 DIAS (England, Russia, Turkey, Italy, Austria)


The Rowdy Cast
Austria: Doug Colex dcolex1(at)netzero.net ([email]dcolex1(at)netzero.net[/email]) England: Jason K. Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email]) France: Dem Young demjyoung(at)yahoo.com ([email]demjyoung(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Germany: Mikael Johannsen m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Italy: Neil Smark smark6(at)ozemail.com.au ([email]smark6(at)ozemail.com.au[/email]) Russia: Jorge Saralegui jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email]) Turkey: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])


Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])



CURRENT SEASON:


FALL 1913 END-GAME PROPOSAL:
DRAW INCLUDING ALL SURVIVORS - PASSES!!!


FALL 1913 ORDERS:


TURKEY:
F WMS S GOL OK A Tyr Holds OK F ADR-Tri OK A Ser S Bud OK A Bul S Rum OK F Black S Rum OK F Arm-Sev [BOUNCE with SEV 1:1] [GM NOTE: A RUM UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK

AUSTRIA:
a Bud holds OK

ENGLAND:
A Belgium - Picardy OK A Burgundy Supports F Marseilles OK F English Channel Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean OK A Gascony Supports F Spain(sc) OK F Irish Sea Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean OK F Marseilles Supports F Spain(sc) [CUT by PIE] F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal OK F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean OK F North Sea Hold OK F Spain(sc) Supports F Marseilles OK

ITALY:
Fleet North Africa support Western Mediterranean OK Fleet Gulf of Lyon supports Western Mediterranean OK Army Piedmont – Marseilles [BOUNCE with MAR 1:3] Army Venice Support Tyrolia OK

RUSSIA:
F Swe H OK F StP H OK F Sev H OK A Mos S F Sev OK A Ukr-Rum [BOUNCE with RUM 1:3] A Gal-Bud [BOUNCE with BUD 2:2] A War-Gal [BOUNCE with GAL 1:1] A Vie S A Gal-Bud OK A Boh S A Vie OK A Mun-Tyr [BOUNCE with TYL 1:1]

WINTER 1913 ADJUSTMENTS:
Turkey: No Adjustments Austria: No Adjustments England: BUILDS 1 Italy: No Adjustments Russia: No Adjustments



UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
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TURKEY:
8 Supply Centers - Ank, Con, Smy, Gre, Bul, Ber, Ser, Rum, Tri
4 Armies - Rum, Ser, Tyl, Bul
4 Fleets - Wme, Bla, Tri, Arm


AUSTRIA:
1 Supply Center - Bud
1 Army - Bud
0 Fleets -


ENGLAND: BUILDS 1
11 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Bre, Bel, Lvp, Hol, Par, Spa, Nwy, Por, Mar
3 Armies - Bur, Gas, Pic
7 Fleets - Mar, Iri, Por, Spa(sc), Nth, Eng, Mao


ITALY:
4 Supply Centers - Nap, Rom, Tun, Ven
2 Armies - Ven, Pie
2 Fleets - Naf, Gol


RUSSIA:
10 Supply Centers - Mos, War, Sev, Stp, Swe, Kie, Mun, Den, Vie, Ber
7 Armies - Vie, Boh, Gal, War, Ukr, Mos, Mun
3 Fleets - Swe, Sev, Stp(nc)


GERMANY - ELIMINATED 1906


FRANCE - ELIMINATED 1908



GAME RESULT: 1913 DRAW INCLUDING ALL SURVIVORS (Turkey / Russia / England / Austria / Italy)

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Hi All
Id like to chip in and say thanks for the game, my
first in something like 17 years I think. Not my
last that is for sure. It took me awhile to get used
to the usual diplomacy promises and stabs but that
all part of the game. Ive still got a lot to
relearn and learn so once again thanks for the game.
Id also like to give a special thanks to Trout as
without him this game would have happened. If you
could get back to me trout and tell me how the
mapping system works for the ordering Id be tempted
to give GMing a go.

Regards Neil


From: Michael Sims [mailto:mike(at)southwall.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 2:08 AM
To: Jason K; Former Trout; dc116
Cc: Doug Colex; Jorge Saralegui; Neil Smark; Steve
Lytton; Mikael Johansson
Subject: dc116 Vogon's Revenge - Turk EGS


I am so glad this game is over. I came into this
game with high hopes for a thrilling game as I took
over a Turkey with around 7 dots, and was up against
some great players. Little did I know that 10 years
would play out, I would end up on approximately the
same 7 dots, and the game called a draw.

It started off ok, there was some discussion going
on, but ultimately it boiled down very quickly to
England and Russia that wouldnt consider anything
other than their own alliance. Therefore I have to
say there wasnt too much Diplomacy in this one.
Italy and I came to the understanding that if we
flinched at all, wed simply be overrun faster, and
Austria eventually bought in too, that ER were
playing everyone else, and so it became the 3 small
powers defending, waiting, losing ground bit by bit.


I think had Italy and Austria committed to a trio
sooner, while Germany was still alive, we could have
gotten a jump on ER and done something w the game.
But once Mikael / Germany was out, we had no more
forces behind enemy lines and it was over -- the
next 5 years were all kind of a drag.

Therefore Im happy the draw passed, cuz I wasnt
looking forward to another 5 years of slow grinding
moves, nothing changing on the Russian front, and
England gaining slowly in the west. Im also happy
it passed, cuz the only alternative was that England
or Russia would eventually make a solo move, but it
would have taken 10 years to get to a point where
they had 15-16 ish each.

So good game all, especially to England and Russia
for a well deserved draw, Im happy w the survival 
cant complain for enduring such an onslaught. As for
the Trout, another flawless game GMd as usual. See
you all next time,
-mike




From: Jason K [mailto:githraine(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:36 AM
To: Former Trout; dc116
Cc: Doug Colex; Jason K; Jorge Saralegui; Michael
Sims; Neil Smark; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC116 Vogon's Revenge - Fall 1913 -
Stacked Crooked


I just wanted to thank all for a great (if long)
game.
But especially to my partner Jorge, for sticking
with me for a very strong end, to Mike, who stepped
into a weak turkish position and held the line far
longer then we could have expected (and teaching me
a few things along the way) and Doug, who stuck out
an impossible position for longer then I can credit,
and playing the sides off to perfection to keep his
micro-empire alive. No one earned a survivor credit
more.
And I would like to note, the turning point, from my
perspective was in the first years of the game when
I did not take a vulnerable St Petes when Russia
would have fallen to Austria and Turkey, forming the
alliance that lasted the entire game.
Good Game everyone, see you all on the next board!
Jason

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