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Haven victory - offdisc   (Oct 02, 2012, 1:25 pm)
Congrats Brian! Game well-played. 
Thank you Michael for GMing yet another fantastic Haven game.

I will definitely write a longer EOG tomorrow night (probably while watching the Pres debates), but I certainly want to congratulate my fellow 'survivors' who played through thick and thin, gambit after gambit. You guys were the life and death of me. Smile


Michael
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)

A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)

F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold

A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold

F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom

A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat

F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle

F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)

A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)

F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale

A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)

F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor

F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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Haven victory - briandiffell   (Oct 02, 2012, 10:38 am)
Thanks for the congrats both publicly and privately. I'm going to put
together what I hope is a good EOG later that is concise but substantive. I
have a lot to say! I'm really hoping everyone does EOGs, including those
who may have lost interest in the week-to-week activities of the game.
Especially my erstwhile friends the Fairies, Gnomes, Centaurs, even
Barbarians. Some of the southern powers disappeared before I ever had the
need to talk to them, but I'd be really interested in how things developed
in the south before I started paying attention there.
I thought this was a really well played game by nearly everyone I
interacted with. I would be remiss if I didn't thank Sims for inviting me
to play and keeping the game (most of the time) on schedule. Not to
mention developing the variant to begin with. More to come later!
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:34:05 -0500, "Michael Sims"
wrote:
This is it! Game over! Congrats Brian...

Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights
take this one to the record books. Longest game (20 years) and first
solo
victory... So. What do you have to say for yourselves? EOG's! From
everyone! Even those little guys who got killed early on...

Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D

NEXT: Nothing! No orders due! Take a breather. But the next Haven
game
is already open to join...
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004

Do y'all even wanna see the results? It's pretty much Knights all over
the place while everyone else takes a bath. Not a pretty picture... but
just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...

Some RETREATS that don't matter...

Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva

Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST

ORDERS

Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti

Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles

Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho

Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)

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Haven victory - chaosonejoe   (Oct 02, 2012, 9:18 am)
 
Joe Hobbit here... trying to avoid a novelization, but 20 years is 80 years in Hobbit time.
 
Congrats to Brian on a well-earned victory.
 
One of the most interesting games I've been involved in, and obviously because I stayed in it to the end. The twists and turns over the past few months were worthy of the reputation of the game -- going a bit too far a few times, tying into the realities of email gaming, and (as I believe) the game was ultimately decided by a poorly timed (or conceived?) stab by the Rogues.
 
Going back two decades, I saw some strong neighbors and tried to wheel and deal. The Wizards (sorry Garry) were on board, but the opportunity to strike early and hard against a dangerous opponent was too much to ignore. As the first few years settled out, I was able to work with others to grind out the Wizards, made a long term alliance with the Pirates that allowed us both to grow, and saw immeditate hostility (in terms of position and tone) with the Elves.
 
But the Wizards would not die fast.
 
The clashes with Christopher were heated and public, which brought about enough cover that we did decide to work together. My arrangement with the Pirates allowed us to carve up some mutual neighbors and put me at the top of the leader board, and the problems with that position. It seemed for a time that I was on a solid path, and a surprise deal with the Elves allowed us to kill the Wizards, but at that point we were so wary of each other that we couldn't abandon defensive positions and wasted a lot of efforts.
 
Meanwhile, the world started shaping up between northern and southern spheres.
 
The Pirates arranged a loose arrangement for a four way alliance, involving the Rogues and Knights. I had made a few arrangements, but the south was difficult to handle, and the alliance with the Pirates opened up a lot of room, but we were rarely working together because of positioning, while K/R alliance was able to grind out its neighbors. The Elves were always a thorn in my growth, and I could never convince the Dwarves to turn. I tried to balance Fleets and Armies, but that kept me weakened on both sides, and I could neither overtake the big Southern island, nor properly outflank it to do what I wanted.
 
I wasn't going anywhere fast, and the KRPH arrangement wasn't helping me in my perception. I noticed a shift in emails, and took it out on Tom. The blowup wasn't pretty, and we got a crappy situation where the Pirates said that they would throw the game (but the numbers just weren't there). The Pirates stuck around a few more years, but then dropped off the planet (literally and figuratively).
 
Seeing that the K's and R's were strong and almost controlled the north, I first tried to re-align with them, but then realized that the infighting in the South was going to be the death of us all. Elves and Dwarves and Hobbits allied with a common cause of survival. And then the K/R alliance seemed to be disintegrating.... although a lot of it seemed to be staged.
 
Eventually, though, the Rogues came over. The Dwarves were in a precarious position,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: diplomacy(at)diffell.net
Cc: Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; jfburgess(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com;
Spinozas(at)gmx.net; kingkovas(at)gmail.com; clockheardt(at)yahoo.com; tiga124(at)aol.com; tomahaha(at)frontiernet.net; dc394 <dc394(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; clockheardt(at)yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory



This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha
Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A
Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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Haven victory - Jim-Bob   (Oct 02, 2012, 9:15 am)
Congratulations, Brian!!!   I will have a longer endgame statement later, but I know I'll claim to my dying day that my most egregious error in not understanding how the wraparound worked in the Underground (a more mortal sin for a dwarf over a knight cannot be imagined) was the setup for the tempo advances that Brian ultimately needed to take this game.
 But, there are ALWAYS some information asymmetries and who takes advantage of them the best, wins. Great job!Jim-Bob

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Christopher Lockheardt <clockheardt(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Congrats, Brian!

And thank you, Michael, for inviting me to participate in the game. It's a wonderfully inventive variant. I had a blast at the beginning of the game looking up the origins of all the province names.




From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>

To: diplomacy(at)diffell.net
Cc: Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com;
welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; jfburgess(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; kingkovas(at)gmail.com; clockheardt(at)yahoo.com; tiga124(at)aol.com; tomahaha(at)frontiernet.net; dc394 <dc394(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; clockheardt(at)yahoo.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory





This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)

A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)

F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold

A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold

F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom

A
Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat

F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle

F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)

A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)

F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale

A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle
(*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD

F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)

F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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Haven victory - chaosonejoe   (Oct 02, 2012, 9:12 am)
 
Joe Hobbit here... trying to avoid a novelization, but 20 years is 80 years in Hobbit time.
 
Congrats to Brian on a well-earned victory.
 
One of the most interesting games I've been involved in, and obviously because I stayed in it to the end. The twists and turns over the past few months were worthy of the reputation of the game -- going a bit too far a few times, tying into the realities of email gaming, and (as I believe) the game was ultimately decided by a poorly timed (or conceived?) stab by the Rogues.
 
Going back two decades, I saw some strong neighbors and tried to wheel and deal. The Wizards (sorry Garry) were on board, but the opportunity to strike early and hard against a dangerous opponent was too much to ignore. As the first few years settled out, I was able to work with others to grind out the Wizards, made a long term alliance with the Pirates that allowed us both to grow, and saw immeditate hostility (in terms of position and tone) with the Elves.
 
But the Wizards would not die fast.
 
The clashes with Christopher were heated and public, which brought about enough cover that we did decide to work together. My arrangement with the Pirates allowed us to carve up some mutual neighbors and put me at the top of the leader board, and the problems with that position. It seemed for a time that I was on a solid path, and a surprise deal with the Elves allowed us to kill the Wizards, but at that point we were so wary of each other that we couldn't abandon defensive positions and wasted a lot of efforts.
 
Meanwhile, the world started shaping up between northern and southern spheres.
 
The Pirates arranged a loose arrangement for a four way alliance, involving the Rogues and Knights. I had made a few arrangements, but the south was difficult to handle, and the alliance with the Pirates opened up a lot of room, but we were rarely working together because of positioning, while K/R alliance was able to grind out its neighbors. The Elves were always a thorn in my growth, and I could never convince the Dwarves to turn. I tried to balance Fleets and Armies, but that kept me weakened on both sides, and I could neither overtake the big Southern island, nor properly outflank it to do what I wanted.
 
I wasn't going anywhere fast, and the KRPH arrangement wasn't helping me in my perception. I noticed a shift in emails, and took it out on Tom. The blowup wasn't pretty, and we got a crappy situation where the Pirates said that they would throw the game (but the numbers just weren't there). The Pirates stuck around a few more years, but then dropped off the planet (literally and figuratively).
 
Seeing that the K's and R's were strong and almost controlled the north, I first tried to re-align with them, but then realized that the infighting in the South was going to be the death of us all. Elves and Dwarves and Hobbits allied with a common cause of survival. And then the K/R alliance seemed to be disintegrating.... although a lot of it seemed to be staged.
 
Eventually, though, the Rogues came over. The Dwarves were in a precarious position, and a lot of us realized that Knights in the underworld would be the end of it all, and they were definitely there. I hesitated on stabbing Jim, because I didn't want to open the flood gates, but looking back this may have been an opportunity to grab enough centers to be a world power, and not a waning one.
 
EDHR was never destined to last. I was stuck in the middle of Elves, Dwarves and Rogues and hit my territorial limit, but I was concentrated enough, and the Knights were enough of a concern, that I was sure I was safe from being stabbed. But I knew four non-growing powers needed to be three, and the Dwarves were vital against the Knights. I also knew the Rogues were the closest to the Knights in numbers, and was wary of giving them more. But turning on the Elves to get some centers was an easier decision to make.
 
Around this time, the game was dragging and I had a lot of "real life" situations distracting me. The emails sometimes didn't arrive until late, and we had some true miscommunications, but the Rogues did a big "accidental" stab of me, that knocked me down enough and grew him enough that it changed the complexion of the game from counter balancing the Knights to realizing that a two-way was likely.
 
What Michael didn't seem to think out was that he was really generating animosity, while the Knights were just trying to win the game in the eyes of Hobbits and Dwarves.
I was wary of both Knights and Rogues. But I had limited interaction with the Knights, and the Rogues were always playing puppet-master, and I was shrinking despite trying to work with the Rogues.
 
The big delays (I moved, vacations, etc) were obviously going to impact the game. But the Rogues mis-played another stab, at a time when he really needed to diplomatize a finish, and not try to force one. the H/D alliance was strong but ineffectual in most ways, except for one -- we had votes, weren't going to vote for a draw to benefit the person that stabbed us, and would play out the game until the Knights won. (obviously the Elves were able to stick around too, and openly shot down victory requests left and right).
 
In the end, the Knights won. This last year showed that there was very little that anyone could do, alone, to stop them, and the Rogues in essence eroded allies at the expense of a gambit to earn a draw, which -- again -- didn't sit well with his former allies, and kept his forces split.
 
I always had a sense that the Knights and Rogues were playing a higher level game, and thought they may end up settling for a draw, but being that close to a solo makes settling for a draw kinda foolish.
 
Great gaming with everyone, and I look forward to more.... give me a week before I say yes to another Haven, though. (in Hobbit years?)
 
Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory



This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha
Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A
Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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Haven victory - The_Blurbist   (Oct 02, 2012, 8:02 am)
Congrats, Brian!

And thank you, Michael, for inviting me to participate in the game. It's a wonderfully inventive variant. I had a blast at the beginning of the game looking up the origins of all the province names.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory


Re: dc394 s19 results!




This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 

Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A
Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle
(*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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Haven victory - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 02, 2012, 7:34 am)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




Final map...
Signed copies avail for $25.
-mike



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Tue 10/2/2012 7:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory




This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 

Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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Haven victory - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 02, 2012, 7:34 am)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 

Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

[Reply]

Haven victory (dc394) FuzzyLogic Oct 02, 07:34 am
Re: dc394 s19 results!




Final map...
Signed copies avail for $25.
-mike



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Tue 10/2/2012 7:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory




This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 

Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) The_Blurbist Oct 02, 08:02 am
Congrats, Brian!

And thank you, Michael, for inviting me to participate in the game. It's a wonderfully inventive variant. I had a blast at the beginning of the game looking up the origins of all the province names.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory


Re: dc394 s19 results!




This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 

Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A
Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle
(*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) chaosonejoe Oct 02, 09:12 am
 
Joe Hobbit here... trying to avoid a novelization, but 20 years is 80 years in Hobbit time.
 
Congrats to Brian on a well-earned victory.
 
One of the most interesting games I've been involved in, and obviously because I stayed in it to the end. The twists and turns over the past few months were worthy of the reputation of the game -- going a bit too far a few times, tying into the realities of email gaming, and (as I believe) the game was ultimately decided by a poorly timed (or conceived?) stab by the Rogues.
 
Going back two decades, I saw some strong neighbors and tried to wheel and deal. The Wizards (sorry Garry) were on board, but the opportunity to strike early and hard against a dangerous opponent was too much to ignore. As the first few years settled out, I was able to work with others to grind out the Wizards, made a long term alliance with the Pirates that allowed us both to grow, and saw immeditate hostility (in terms of position and tone) with the Elves.
 
But the Wizards would not die fast.
 
The clashes with Christopher were heated and public, which brought about enough cover that we did decide to work together. My arrangement with the Pirates allowed us to carve up some mutual neighbors and put me at the top of the leader board, and the problems with that position. It seemed for a time that I was on a solid path, and a surprise deal with the Elves allowed us to kill the Wizards, but at that point we were so wary of each other that we couldn't abandon defensive positions and wasted a lot of efforts.
 
Meanwhile, the world started shaping up between northern and southern spheres.
 
The Pirates arranged a loose arrangement for a four way alliance, involving the Rogues and Knights. I had made a few arrangements, but the south was difficult to handle, and the alliance with the Pirates opened up a lot of room, but we were rarely working together because of positioning, while K/R alliance was able to grind out its neighbors. The Elves were always a thorn in my growth, and I could never convince the Dwarves to turn. I tried to balance Fleets and Armies, but that kept me weakened on both sides, and I could neither overtake the big Southern island, nor properly outflank it to do what I wanted.
 
I wasn't going anywhere fast, and the KRPH arrangement wasn't helping me in my perception. I noticed a shift in emails, and took it out on Tom. The blowup wasn't pretty, and we got a crappy situation where the Pirates said that they would throw the game (but the numbers just weren't there). The Pirates stuck around a few more years, but then dropped off the planet (literally and figuratively).
 
Seeing that the K's and R's were strong and almost controlled the north, I first tried to re-align with them, but then realized that the infighting in the South was going to be the death of us all. Elves and Dwarves and Hobbits allied with a common cause of survival. And then the K/R alliance seemed to be disintegrating.... although a lot of it seemed to be staged.
 
Eventually, though, the Rogues came over. The Dwarves were in a precarious position, and a lot of us realized that Knights in the underworld would be the end of it all, and they were definitely there. I hesitated on stabbing Jim, because I didn't want to open the flood gates, but looking back this may have been an opportunity to grab enough centers to be a world power, and not a waning one.
 
EDHR was never destined to last. I was stuck in the middle of Elves, Dwarves and Rogues and hit my territorial limit, but I was concentrated enough, and the Knights were enough of a concern, that I was sure I was safe from being stabbed. But I knew four non-growing powers needed to be three, and the Dwarves were vital against the Knights. I also knew the Rogues were the closest to the Knights in numbers, and was wary of giving them more. But turning on the Elves to get some centers was an easier decision to make.
 
Around this time, the game was dragging and I had a lot of "real life" situations distracting me. The emails sometimes didn't arrive until late, and we had some true miscommunications, but the Rogues did a big "accidental" stab of me, that knocked me down enough and grew him enough that it changed the complexion of the game from counter balancing the Knights to realizing that a two-way was likely.
 
What Michael didn't seem to think out was that he was really generating animosity, while the Knights were just trying to win the game in the eyes of Hobbits and Dwarves.
I was wary of both Knights and Rogues. But I had limited interaction with the Knights, and the Rogues were always playing puppet-master, and I was shrinking despite trying to work with the Rogues.
 
The big delays (I moved, vacations, etc) were obviously going to impact the game. But the Rogues mis-played another stab, at a time when he really needed to diplomatize a finish, and not try to force one. the H/D alliance was strong but ineffectual in most ways, except for one -- we had votes, weren't going to vote for a draw to benefit the person that stabbed us, and would play out the game until the Knights won. (obviously the Elves were able to stick around too, and openly shot down victory requests left and right).
 
In the end, the Knights won. This last year showed that there was very little that anyone could do, alone, to stop them, and the Rogues in essence eroded allies at the expense of a gambit to earn a draw, which -- again -- didn't sit well with his former allies, and kept his forces split.
 
I always had a sense that the Knights and Rogues were playing a higher level game, and thought they may end up settling for a draw, but being that close to a solo makes settling for a draw kinda foolish.
 
Great gaming with everyone, and I look forward to more.... give me a week before I say yes to another Haven, though. (in Hobbit years?)
 
Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory



This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha
Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A
Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) Jim-Bob Oct 02, 09:15 am
Congratulations, Brian!!!   I will have a longer endgame statement later, but I know I'll claim to my dying day that my most egregious error in not understanding how the wraparound worked in the Underground (a more mortal sin for a dwarf over a knight cannot be imagined) was the setup for the tempo advances that Brian ultimately needed to take this game.
 But, there are ALWAYS some information asymmetries and who takes advantage of them the best, wins. Great job!Jim-Bob

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Christopher Lockheardt <clockheardt(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Congrats, Brian!

And thank you, Michael, for inviting me to participate in the game. It's a wonderfully inventive variant. I had a blast at the beginning of the game looking up the origins of all the province names.




From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>

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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory





This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)

A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)

F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold

A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold

F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom

A
Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat

F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle

F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)

A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)

F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale

A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle
(*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD

F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)

F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) chaosonejoe Oct 02, 09:18 am
 
Joe Hobbit here... trying to avoid a novelization, but 20 years is 80 years in Hobbit time.
 
Congrats to Brian on a well-earned victory.
 
One of the most interesting games I've been involved in, and obviously because I stayed in it to the end. The twists and turns over the past few months were worthy of the reputation of the game -- going a bit too far a few times, tying into the realities of email gaming, and (as I believe) the game was ultimately decided by a poorly timed (or conceived?) stab by the Rogues.
 
Going back two decades, I saw some strong neighbors and tried to wheel and deal. The Wizards (sorry Garry) were on board, but the opportunity to strike early and hard against a dangerous opponent was too much to ignore. As the first few years settled out, I was able to work with others to grind out the Wizards, made a long term alliance with the Pirates that allowed us both to grow, and saw immeditate hostility (in terms of position and tone) with the Elves.
 
But the Wizards would not die fast.
 
The clashes with Christopher were heated and public, which brought about enough cover that we did decide to work together. My arrangement with the Pirates allowed us to carve up some mutual neighbors and put me at the top of the leader board, and the problems with that position. It seemed for a time that I was on a solid path, and a surprise deal with the Elves allowed us to kill the Wizards, but at that point we were so wary of each other that we couldn't abandon defensive positions and wasted a lot of efforts.
 
Meanwhile, the world started shaping up between northern and southern spheres.
 
The Pirates arranged a loose arrangement for a four way alliance, involving the Rogues and Knights. I had made a few arrangements, but the south was difficult to handle, and the alliance with the Pirates opened up a lot of room, but we were rarely working together because of positioning, while K/R alliance was able to grind out its neighbors. The Elves were always a thorn in my growth, and I could never convince the Dwarves to turn. I tried to balance Fleets and Armies, but that kept me weakened on both sides, and I could neither overtake the big Southern island, nor properly outflank it to do what I wanted.
 
I wasn't going anywhere fast, and the KRPH arrangement wasn't helping me in my perception. I noticed a shift in emails, and took it out on Tom. The blowup wasn't pretty, and we got a crappy situation where the Pirates said that they would throw the game (but the numbers just weren't there). The Pirates stuck around a few more years, but then dropped off the planet (literally and figuratively).
 
Seeing that the K's and R's were strong and almost controlled the north, I first tried to re-align with them, but then realized that the infighting in the South was going to be the death of us all. Elves and Dwarves and Hobbits allied with a common cause of survival. And then the K/R alliance seemed to be disintegrating.... although a lot of it seemed to be staged.
 
Eventually, though, the Rogues came over. The Dwarves were in a precarious position,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Haven victory



This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha
Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A
Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) briandiffell Oct 02, 10:38 am
Thanks for the congrats both publicly and privately. I'm going to put
together what I hope is a good EOG later that is concise but substantive. I
have a lot to say! I'm really hoping everyone does EOGs, including those
who may have lost interest in the week-to-week activities of the game.
Especially my erstwhile friends the Fairies, Gnomes, Centaurs, even
Barbarians. Some of the southern powers disappeared before I ever had the
need to talk to them, but I'd be really interested in how things developed
in the south before I started paying attention there.
I thought this was a really well played game by nearly everyone I
interacted with. I would be remiss if I didn't thank Sims for inviting me
to play and keeping the game (most of the time) on schedule. Not to
mention developing the variant to begin with. More to come later!
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:34:05 -0500, "Michael Sims"
wrote:
This is it! Game over! Congrats Brian...

Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights
take this one to the record books. Longest game (20 years) and first
solo
victory... So. What do you have to say for yourselves? EOG's! From
everyone! Even those little guys who got killed early on...

Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D

NEXT: Nothing! No orders due! Take a breather. But the next Haven
game
is already open to join...
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004

Do y'all even wanna see the results? It's pretty much Knights all over
the place while everyone else takes a bath. Not a pretty picture... but
just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...

Some RETREATS that don't matter...

Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva

Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST

ORDERS

Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)
A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti

Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles

Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold
F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom
A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho

Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)
A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)
F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale
A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
Haven victory (dc394) offdisc Oct 02, 01:25 pm
Congrats Brian! Game well-played. 
Thank you Michael for GMing yet another fantastic Haven game.

I will definitely write a longer EOG tomorrow night (probably while watching the Pres debates), but I certainly want to congratulate my fellow 'survivors' who played through thick and thin, gambit after gambit. You guys were the life and death of me. Smile


Michael
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...
 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D
 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004
 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...
 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)

A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)

F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold

A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold

F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom

A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat

F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle

F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)

A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)

F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale

A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)

F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor

F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) Jim-Bob Oct 02, 01:35 pm
Yeah, I just want to say everything, yes everything, was Chris' fault.....
Jim-Bob

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Congrats Brian! Game well-played. 
Thank you Michael for GMing yet another fantastic Haven game.

I will definitely write a longer EOG tomorrow night (probably while watching the Pres debates), but I certainly want to congratulate my fellow 'survivors' who played through thick and thin, gambit after gambit. You guys were the life and death of me. Smile


Michael
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...

 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394

New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D

 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004

 
Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...

 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST

 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)

A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)

F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles

 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold

A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold

F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom

A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat

F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth

F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle

F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)

A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)

F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale

A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)

F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor

F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)

 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) The_Blurbist Oct 02, 01:39 pm
Well, that saves me from having to write an EoG now.

From: Jim Burgess <jfburgess(at)gmail.com>
To: mrh(at)panix.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Haven victory


Yeah, I just want to say everything, yes everything, was Chris' fault.....
Jim-Bob

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Congrats Brian! Game well-played. 
Thank you Michael for GMing yet another fantastic Haven game.

I will definitely write a longer EOG tomorrow night (probably while watching the Pres debates), but I certainly want to congratulate my fellow 'survivors' who played through thick and thin, gambit after gambit. You guys were the life and death of me. Smile



Michael
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:







This is it!  Game over!  Congrats Brian...
 
Catapulting to 55 suppy centers with only 52 needed to win, the Knights take this one to the record books.  Longest game (20 years) and first solo victory... So.  What do you have to say for yourselves?  EOG's!  From everyone!  Even those little guys who got killed early on...


 
Some interesting stats at the end...
Supply Center Chart:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394


New Trend Chart for Haven results:  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D


 
NEXT:  Nothing!  No orders due!  Take a breather.  But the next Haven game is already open to join... http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=re004


 

Do y'all even wanna see the results?  It's pretty much Knights all over the place while everyone else takes a bath.  Not a pretty picture... but just for the visual, we'll attach a final map and some moves...


 
Some RETREATS that don't matter...
 
Dwarves:
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
 
Rogues:
F The Neverwood - PIRATE SHOALS
F Pans Labyrinth - The High Way
A The Silver city - Moominvalley
F Sorrows End - THON THALAS
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST


 
ORDERS
 
Dwarves:
A Lindon Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Lubrick - Knockshegowna
A Whoville Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Garthim (*Dislodged*)
F Powry - Lubrick
A Ogrun - Nehwon (*Fails*)


A Marshes of Morva - Gelfling
A Thra - Silvanesti
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
A Rohan - Two Towers
A Waterdeep - City of Splendors
A Krikkit Supports A The Wilderland - Nowwhat
A The Wilderland - Nowwhat (*Fails*)


F Yuirwood Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Rivendell - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F Far Far Away - Never Never Land (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Baldurs Gate
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles


 
Knights:
A Grissel - Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Vinyaya - Acme Acres
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Newa River Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Riku Hold


A Grimheim - Ashan (*Bounce*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals
A Orboros - The Silver city
A Devils Canyon - Traal
A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Travers Town Supports A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
F Slightly Gulch Hold


F Dimmsdale Hold
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
F Abby Normal Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End
A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Waterdeep
A Parce Pass Supports A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth


A Camelittle Hold
A Maze of Regrets - The Neverwood
A Endor - Cliffs of Insanity
A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
A Daisy Meadows Supports F Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
A Khaz Modan - Temple of Doom


A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Undermountain - Nowwhat


F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Grissel - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Orboros - The Silver city
F TILVA STRAIT Supports A Grimheim - Ashan (*Cut*)
F TROG BOG - Pygmy (*Fails*)
F GRIEF REEF Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth


F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Groves of Academe - Pans Labyrinth
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle


F RIFT CANYON Supports A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
F PIRATE SHOALS - Land Ho
 
Rogues:
F Garthim Supports A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nehwon Supports A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Cut*)
F The Neverwood Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Pans Labyrinth - Rivendell (*Dislodged*)


A The Silver city Supports F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Dislodged*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Dislodged*)
A Kahvi Hold
F Land Ho - GULF OF LUHN
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK (*Cut*)


F Myth Drannor - Port Ghaast (*Disbanded*)
F Great Glacier - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep Hold
F The Old Gristmill - Dhunia
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city (*Cut*)
A Walk of Clouds Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale


A Palmaris - Timberlands
A Sinking Shore - Prekkendorran Hts
A Heresh - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
A Cormyr - Valley of Lost Honor
F Port Ghaast - Gumdrop Isle (*Fails*)
A Pwyll - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE - Ashan (*Bounce*)


F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
F THUNDERHEAD - Merrow
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Convoys A Pwyll - Myth Drannor


F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - Baldurs Gate (*Void*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)


 
 
 
Haven victory (dc394) offdisc Oct 08, 03:12 pm
Apologies for the delay in sending this. It took a while to write, and then I sent it to the Haven game I am GMing. By accident of course, although I think it serves as a great example of how to write an EOG. Wink

Rogue EOG (DC394 Haven)

=======================
[I am writing this over a period of days, and am NOT reading other EOGs as they come in]
As
soon as the players were announced, I looked through my Dip history
(thanks Google for ALL the space!) to review past Haven games and judge
experience. A lot of newbies to Haven here, with some very good
experienced players as well. After the crushing turn of events in the
last Haven game -- I arranged an "experience v.s rookie" alliance, only
to have it fall apart halfway through by one player spilling the beans
-- I decided to play this game straight and true. I'd talk to everyone,
bring no prejudices forward, and just work the system.

I reached out to everyone and began judging my first path based on communication and strategy-sharing:
if you responded positively to an alliance, great
if you were wishy-washy, fence
if you ignored me, target


if you discussed strategy, great
if you told me about everything other people were saying, fence

No
real targets were apparant to me, and as Rogues, I am surrounded by
close neighbors, so "tread carefully" was my motto. That being said,
Knights and I began discussing an alliance from Day 1, and before the
first Spring moves were finished, we'd come to an agreement on sharing
info at least.

On the other hand, Penner/Faeries were designated for elimination -- I
know how good a player he is, and I wanted someone weaker than me as my
close neighbor. When I heard that Penner was calling me "tricky", his
fate was sealed. Rogue/Fairy alliances are fantastic when they work, but
they require ultimate trust and that's hard when we start out calling
each other "tricky". Smile

Centaurs, the unlucky ones, offered alliances to both Knights and
myself, which we accepted immediately with private messages describing
how we'd carve him up. But first, we get him running point against the
Barbs and causing unrest anywhere he could reach. As Centaurs pressed
forward, Brian would take out his backside.

Magicians were targetted first for being on the peninsula. Trolls/Mags,
coin flip, but Mags weren't as talkative as Trolls, so he goes first.
Also, first to admit inexperience with the board, and no one to use him
against, so his use to we was position and centers.

Trolls were designated for elimination also, based on sharing the
peninsula, and sealed when he talked about keeping an eye on Nomads and
their interesting position. Nomads are notoriously first out of Haven,
unless they find several friendly benefactors. Greg had shown his
inexperience with Haven, so I'd use him to hold off surprise attacks
from the Gnome while I take out the Magicians.

Pirates have usually shown themselves to be strong if given the chance
to expand, so I tried to organize people against him. Just passing info
along to Gnomes, Archers, anyone who would listen.
Ogres, I so looked forward to joining with them at some point, but alas, they were wiped out before that could take place. 

Undead, Matthias and I have played against each other several times, but
with enough space between us, I thought we'd make a good team here.
The
Nomads, as weak as they are, still held a problem for me, being in TGR.
So I decided to make them an ally against non-existent enemies: Trolls
and Gnomes. If I kept Nomads focused and busy over there, then I'd be
able to neutralize the threat over here. Maybe even get them all
fighting, and clean up the remains. 


And that was my strategy for most of the game: make one strong
alliance, and keep every other neighbor in different alliances against
one another. That strategy worked right up until the end, when I became a
bit too distracted/tired and gave in to Brian's request to reform the
KR alliance.

But even the one alliance (Knights) was pressured by
others from my hand -- starting with Faeries in 02, when I broke the
news to Penner that Knights were arranging with Archers to take him out.
I just couldn't let Brian grow that much faster than me.  Hobbits fell
into that same maneuver later on. Pirates too, until they went AWOL on
me.

There were several times early on when I felt on the
brink of elimination, even through 02 & 03 while the Mags and Cents
fell.  The turning point for me was 05 & 06, the attacks on Faeries
and Trolls. I was in talks with Gnomes and Knights, but also stirring
the pot between Trolls and Gnomes. Finally got to the point where they
both seemingly trusted me and might join forces, so I pushed Trolls
towards Undead to split his force and attacked. To Greg's credit, he
fought valiantly! 
A bit of a Grand Alliance began with Knights, Hobbits, Pirates, and
Rogues. But from the K/R side, we were only pulling info. Then Pirates
got greedy, which allowed me to work with Gnomes, while planning with
Knights to take him out. 
07 saw the disintegration of the Grand Alliance, and the Gnomes
cracked. Knights were expanding, so I began stirring up "Knight Solo"
talk, just in case. It was funny that I had several players convinced
that "26 or 30" was the magic number to Solo. But then "The Telethon to
Hand the Game to Knights" started, and Brian and I solidified our
alliance. 
Things went smoothly from then until 12.  We orchestrated a lot of
strife between Elves, Hobbits and Dwarves to keep them from growing. In
the meantime, we moved south together and kept our center counts close
to even. Hobbits and Dwarves expressed concern about Chris' movements,
so we slated him for demolition next. 
There was a point, in 10 after getting 5 builds to his none, that I
considered stabbing Brian. I drew up a map and everything. At the same
time, I polled the group and discovered that everyone would vote YES to a
KR draw, providing certain other players were eliminated. Brian and I
could have forced a DIAS probably, but we decided to have some fun and
clean the board. For whatever reason, I chickened out of the stab --
possibly the stress in my life played a part, possibly the lack of any
other true allies. Whatever it was, THAT was probably my biggest
mistake.
Because then the Pirates disappeared and 3 turns later, Brian grabbed the centers and stabbed me!And
the rest of the game was a matter of gathering up everyone else to head
off the Knight Solo, while also trying to keep an opening for MY run to
either Solo or force Brian back into the 2-way.  We eliminated Elves
easily enough. Hobbits were large enough to be standing up to some
ideas, so Dwarves and I worked to destabilize or eliminate him... at
least knock him down a peg or two -- and we succeeded without even
giving up much ground to Brian.

I don't know why Brian approached me about the
reforming the 2-way, but I took the bait. I tried hard to maneuver a
turn-over of centers to keep the board in balance, but I did make the
mistake of grabbing Dwarf centers before taking more of the Knight's.
Hobbits pulled straight back from Brian, and Jim moved right into my
centers, causing a great disparity between the center counts again. So
Brian broke ranks and ran for the crown. 
Truth be told, I was simply waiting for my chance and would have done the same.
Fantastic
game everyone! Jim, you are correct -- I jumped the gun with my stab.
After playing so cautiously and pessimistically all game, I got antsy
and wanted to bring it to a quick end. I should have bided my time, 2
more years or so, and then I might have had a nice run for glory.
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
Haven Clouds - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 01, 2012, 8:17 am)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




Don't you love when you lie on your back on a cloudy day and the clouds almost seem to form words...?
 
 

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dc394 s20 retreats! - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 26, 2012, 8:06 am)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




Here we go, a handful of retreats to shine a little sunshine into your day...
 
NEXT:  Fall 20!  Due Monday 10/1, 3pm Central!
 
Enjoy,
-mike
 
Hobbits:
F Candlekeep - Mordor
F MERMAIDS LAGOON - Far Far Away
 
Rogues:
A Whoville - Heresh

 
 

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dc394 s20 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 24, 2012, 1:54 pm)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




Sure is hard to get back into the swing... my mind is still elsewhere.  Hopefully these are error-free!
 
Retreats are mostly for the Hobbit who takes quite a beating, tho there's a lot of failed moves in there for the Rogues too.  Knights manage a handful of failures themselves plus some voids, while the most successful seems to be the Dwarves, pulling off 7 of 8 successful moves.  Is this what you wanted?  Is it good?  Bad?  I really can't tell as I have no idea what's going on!
 
RETREAT!  Due Wed 9/26, 3pm Central...
 
Rogue A Whoville can retreat to Heresh.
Hobbit F Candlekeep can retreat to Mordor or Two Towers or Thirsty Desert.
Hobbit F MERMAIDS LAGOON can retreat to Far Far Away or The High Way.

Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon - Ogrun
A Valley of Lost Honor - Marshes of Morva
A Hoarluk - Lubrick
F Powry Supports A Uuno - Whoville
A Uuno - Whoville
A Thirsty Desert - Valley of Lost Honor
A Nowwhat - Lindon
A Thra - Silvanesti (*Bounce*)
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - GULF OF LUHN
F Rohan - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
A The Neverwood - Pans Labyrinth (*Disbanded*)
F Kahvi - Grendel (*Disbanded*)
A Waterdeep Supports F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Cut*)
A Krikkit - Nowwhat (*Bounce*)
A Two Towers - Rohan
F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Dislodged*)
A The Wilderland Supports A Krikkit - Nowwhat
F Yuirwood - Baldurs Gate (*Bounce*)
F Rivendell Supports F Rohan - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F MERMAIDS LAGOON, no move received (*Dislodged*)
 
Knights:
A Grissel Supports A Orboros
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Hollow Earth - Snow Witch
A Vinyaya - Cliffs of Insanity (*Fails*)
F Ella Hold
A Newa River Hold
A Fantastica - Travers Town
F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
A Grimheim, no move received
A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep
A Troldhaugen, no move received
A Orboros Hold
F Travers Town - PIRATE SHOALS
F Slightly Gulch Hold
A Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Endor
F Dimmsdale Supports F TILVA STRAIT (*Cut*)
A Cave of Ordeals Hold
F Abby Normal Supports A Niflheim - Kahvi
F Kara-Tur Supports A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep
A Parce Pass Supports F Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood (*Void*)
A Camelittle - Riku
A Maze of Regrets Supports A Parce Pass - The Neverwood (*Void*)
A Groves of Academe Hold
A Daisy Meadows Hold
A Cliffs of Insanity - Baldurs Gate (*Bounce*)
A Knurremurre - Khaz Modan
A Carpantha Supports A Mount Nimro
A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk
A Twisted Tunnels Supports A Snow Witch - Devils Canyon
A Snow Witch - Devils Canyon
A Undermountain Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat (*Bounce*)
F SUNLESS SEA Hold
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F TILVA STRAIT
F TILVA STRAIT Hold
F TROG BOG Hold
F GRIEF REEF Supports F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN Hold
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Convoys A Vinyaya - Cliffs of Insanity
F RUGGED COAST Convoys A Vinyaya - Cliffs of Insanity
F RIFT CANYON Convoys A Cliffs of Insanity - Baldurs Gate
F RESTLESS WATERS Convoys A Cliffs of Insanity - Baldurs Gate
 
Rogues:
F Gelfling - Garthim
A To-Gai-Ru - Palmaris
A Nehwon Supports A Snow Witch - Devils Canyon
F Pans Labyrinth Supports F PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood
A The Silver city - Ashan (*Fails*)
F Ashan - Grimheim (*Fails*)
F Sorrows End Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Void*)
A Niflheim - Kahvi
F Dargaard Keep - EAST SEA OF SHADOWS
A Fafhrd - Sinking Shore
A Whoville Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Land Ho Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - GULF OF LUHN (*Void*)
F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
F Myth Drannor Supports F Great Glacier - RAZORS EDGE (*Fails*)
F Great Glacier - RAZORS EDGE (*Fails*)
A Zhentil Keep - Silvanesti (*Bounce*)
F The Julianthes - ZEBOIMS DEEP
A Pygmy Supports F Sorrows End
A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
A Faerun - Cormyr
F Port Ghaast Supports F Myth Drannor
A Pwyll - Zhentil Keep (*Fails*)
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city - Ashan (*Fails*)
F HIGH SEAS - Grendel (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - THUNDERHEAD
F ALL SAINTS BAY - SAVAGE SEA
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - The Old Gristmill
F CHURNING REACH Supports F Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood
F RAZORS EDGE - RIVER OF THE DAWN (*Fails*)
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
 
 
 

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dc394 w19 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 12, 2012, 1:24 pm)
Re: dc394 s19 results!Man never tell your work that you’re leaving for 2 weeks and to contact you asap if you need help, if you expect to be running games during that time!  Time flies… Anyways results will be out while I’m on the road!  Likely later tonight…-mike  From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:01 PM
To: diplomacy(at)diffell.net
Subject: dc394 w19 builds! Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...  Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394 52 to win. Enjoy!-mike Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor Knights:
Build waived
Build waived Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived   

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dc394 w19 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 10, 2012, 11:26 am)
Ah, the feeling of going back to normal life.  A feeling I'm going to be "enjoying" all too soon after vacation flies by next week...
-mike
 



From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Mon 9/10/2012 10:50 AM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: dc394 w19 builds!


Hi All,
Back from vacation!  My mind is still sitting on a beach, but I wil be trying to strategize and will definitely submit moves later today.

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...
 
Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
52 to win.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor
 
Knights:
Build waived
Build waived
 
Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 w19 builds! - offdisc   (Sep 10, 2012, 10:50 am)
Hi All,
Back from vacation!  My mind is still sitting on a beach, but I wil be trying to strategize and will definitely submit moves later today.

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...
 
Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
52 to win.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor
 
Knights:
Build waived
Build waived
 
Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 w19 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 05, 2012, 3:00 pm)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...
 
Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
52 to win.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor
 
Knights:
Build waived
Build waived
 
Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 w19 builds! (dc394) offdisc Sep 10, 10:50 am
Hi All,
Back from vacation!  My mind is still sitting on a beach, but I wil be trying to strategize and will definitely submit moves later today.

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...
 
Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
52 to win.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor
 
Knights:
Build waived
Build waived
 
Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
 
 
dc394 w19 builds! (dc394) FuzzyLogic Sep 10, 11:26 am
Ah, the feeling of going back to normal life.  A feeling I'm going to be "enjoying" all too soon after vacation flies by next week...
-mike
 



From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Mon 9/10/2012 10:50 AM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: dc394 w19 builds!


Hi All,
Back from vacation!  My mind is still sitting on a beach, but I wil be trying to strategize and will definitely submit moves later today.

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...
 
Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394
52 to win.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor
 
Knights:
Build waived
Build waived
 
Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
 
 
dc394 w19 builds! (dc394) FuzzyLogic Sep 12, 01:24 pm
Re: dc394 s19 results!Man never tell your work that you’re leaving for 2 weeks and to contact you asap if you need help, if you expect to be running games during that time!  Time flies… Anyways results will be out while I’m on the road!  Likely later tonight…-mike  From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:01 PM
To: diplomacy(at)diffell.net
Subject: dc394 w19 builds! Spring 20 -- shall be due sometime after Hoffman gets back.  We have a tight window there cuz he gets back on the 10th and I leave on the 12th.  If I have a full set of moves on that day in between (11th) I'll put out results then.  Otherwise, sometime considerably later...  Standings...  http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?type=game&game_id=dc394 52 to win. Enjoy!-mike Hobbits:
Build F Rohan
Build F Mordor Knights:
Build waived
Build waived Rogues:
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Dargaard Keep
Build F Never Never Land
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived   
dc394 Bad day to be small - Jim-Bob   (Aug 30, 2012, 4:41 pm)
After looking at the map, I informed Mr. Sims that I could not in fact build, so I am staying on the board and am fine being in Thea. Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jim Burgess <jfburgess(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I'll go off the board so I can rebuild, please!  And I will openly veto the two way.  Two ways are REALLY fun to see (I have more two ways than solos) but have to be played out on the board.
 
Interesting,Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




The little guys get the axe, getting completely obliterated on every front...
Dwarves manage 7 of 9 failed orders with a forced disband in Snow... and not to be outdone, the Hobbits manage to have 8 of 12 orders fail with double disbands in Tow / Abb.

 
RETREAT!
 
So that we can see the builds, I'm just gonna move these...
 
Dwarves: A Zhentil Keep - Thra (*May opt for Sil instead or OTB and Build 1!*)
Hobbits: F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
Knights: F RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
 
BUILD!
 
Hobbits: Build 2
Knights: Build 2
Rogues: Build 7 (3 possible)
Dwarves:  May Build 1 if taking Zhe OTB.  Otherwise, Even.
 
If I get the requisite builds by tomorrow Noonish, I'll send them out... otherwise when Hoffman returns.
 
Oh... and there's a 2-way RK proposed for when we resume.
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS!
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon Supports A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Cut*)
A Valley of Lost Honor Hold
A Zhentil Keep Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Fails*)

F Powry Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Thirsty Desert Supports A Two Towers - Candlekeep
A Nowwhat Supports A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Cut*)
A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Disbanded*)

 
Hobbits:
F Riku Supports F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Dislodged*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
A Waterdeep Supports F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Cut*)

A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Fails*)
F Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Disbanded*)
F Abby Normal Supports F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)

A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood - Baldurs Gate (*Fails*)
F Rivendell, no move received
 
Knights:
A Grissel Hold
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Hollow Earth Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVER
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)
A Newa River - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)

A Fantastica Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)
A Orboros Hold
F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS

F Slightly Gulch Supports F GRIEF REEF
A Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Maze of Regrets (*Fails*)
A Ice Reach - Knurremurre
A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)

F Kara-Tur Supports A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Cut*)
A Parce Pass Supports F Camelittle - Riku
F Camelittle - Riku
A Maze of Regrets Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Groves of Academe Hold
A Strawberry Fields - Vinyaya

A Daisy Meadows Supports F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
A Carpantha Hold
A Temple of Doom - Neverpeak Mtn
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels

A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Undermountain Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT

F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale

F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F GRIEF REEF Supports F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Port Ghaast (*Fails*)
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town

F RAZORS EDGE Supports F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS (*Dislodged*)
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Hold
A Nehwon - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
F Pans Labyrinth Supports A The Neverwood
A The Silver city Supports F Kender - Ashan
F Sorrows End Supports A Pygmy (*Cut*)

A Niflheim Supports F Sorrows End
A Fafhrd Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk
A Dimmsdale Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Myth Drannor Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE (*Cut*)
F Great Glacier Supports F Myth Drannor
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH

A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city
F Kender - Ashan
A Walk of Clouds Supports F Kender - Ashan
A Heresh - Whoville
A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC - Gumdrop Isle (*Cut*)

A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
A Pwyll Supports A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Kender - Ashan
F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - ALL SAINTS BAY (*Fails*)
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)

F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho

F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho
F RIVER OF THE DAWN Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F ROARING RAPIDS - Gelfling
 
 
 

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dc394 Bad day to be small - Jim-Bob   (Aug 30, 2012, 4:20 pm)
I'll go off the board so I can rebuild, please!  And I will openly veto the two way.  Two ways are REALLY fun to see (I have more two ways than solos) but have to be played out on the board. 
Interesting,Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



The little guys get the axe, getting completely obliterated on every front...
Dwarves manage 7 of 9 failed orders with a forced disband in Snow... and not to be outdone, the Hobbits manage to have 8 of 12 orders fail with double disbands in Tow / Abb.
 
RETREAT!
 
So that we can see the builds, I'm just gonna move these...
 
Dwarves: A Zhentil Keep - Thra (*May opt for Sil instead or OTB and Build 1!*)
Hobbits: F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
Knights: F RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
 
BUILD!
 
Hobbits: Build 2
Knights: Build 2
Rogues: Build 7 (3 possible)
Dwarves:  May Build 1 if taking Zhe OTB.  Otherwise, Even.
 
If I get the requisite builds by tomorrow Noonish, I'll send them out... otherwise when Hoffman returns.
 
Oh... and there's a 2-way RK proposed for when we resume.
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS!
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon Supports A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Cut*)
A Valley of Lost Honor Hold
A Zhentil Keep Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Fails*)

F Powry Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Thirsty Desert Supports A Two Towers - Candlekeep
A Nowwhat Supports A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Cut*)
A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Disbanded*)
 
Hobbits:
F Riku Supports F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Dislodged*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
A Waterdeep Supports F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Cut*)

A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Fails*)
F Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Disbanded*)
F Abby Normal Supports F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)

A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood - Baldurs Gate (*Fails*)
F Rivendell, no move received
 
Knights:
A Grissel Hold
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Hollow Earth Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVER
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)
A Newa River - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)

A Fantastica Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)
A Orboros Hold
F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS

F Slightly Gulch Supports F GRIEF REEF
A Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Maze of Regrets (*Fails*)
A Ice Reach - Knurremurre
A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)

F Kara-Tur Supports A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Cut*)
A Parce Pass Supports F Camelittle - Riku
F Camelittle - Riku
A Maze of Regrets Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Groves of Academe Hold
A Strawberry Fields - Vinyaya

A Daisy Meadows Supports F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
A Carpantha Hold
A Temple of Doom - Neverpeak Mtn
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels

A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Undermountain Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale

F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F GRIEF REEF Supports F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Port Ghaast (*Fails*)
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town

F RAZORS EDGE Supports F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS (*Dislodged*)
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Hold
A Nehwon - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
F Pans Labyrinth Supports A The Neverwood
A The Silver city Supports F Kender - Ashan
F Sorrows End Supports A Pygmy (*Cut*)

A Niflheim Supports F Sorrows End
A Fafhrd Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk
A Dimmsdale Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Myth Drannor Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE (*Cut*)
F Great Glacier Supports F Myth Drannor
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH

A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city
F Kender - Ashan
A Walk of Clouds Supports F Kender - Ashan
A Heresh - Whoville
A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC - Gumdrop Isle (*Cut*)

A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
A Pwyll Supports A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Kender - Ashan
F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - ALL SAINTS BAY (*Fails*)
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)

F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho

F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho
F RIVER OF THE DAWN Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F ROARING RAPIDS - Gelfling
 
 
 

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dc394 Bad day to be small - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 30, 2012, 4:13 pm)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




The little guys get the axe, getting completely obliterated on every front...
Dwarves manage 7 of 9 failed orders with a forced disband in Snow... and not to be outdone, the Hobbits manage to have 8 of 12 orders fail with double disbands in Tow / Abb.
 
RETREAT!
 
So that we can see the builds, I'm just gonna move these...
 
Dwarves: A Zhentil Keep - Thra (*May opt for Sil instead or OTB and Build 1!*)
Hobbits: F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
Knights: F RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
 
BUILD!
 
Hobbits: Build 2
Knights: Build 2
Rogues: Build 7 (3 possible)
Dwarves:  May Build 1 if taking Zhe OTB.  Otherwise, Even.
 
If I get the requisite builds by tomorrow Noonish, I'll send them out... otherwise when Hoffman returns.
 
Oh... and there's a 2-way RK proposed for when we resume.
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS!
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon Supports A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Cut*)
A Valley of Lost Honor Hold
A Zhentil Keep Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Fails*)
F Powry Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Thirsty Desert Supports A Two Towers - Candlekeep
A Nowwhat Supports A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Cut*)
A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Disbanded*)
 
Hobbits:
F Riku Supports F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Dislodged*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
A Waterdeep Supports F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Cut*)
A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Fails*)
F Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Disbanded*)
F Abby Normal Supports F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)
A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood - Baldurs Gate (*Fails*)
F Rivendell, no move received
 
Knights:
A Grissel Hold
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Hollow Earth Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVER
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)
A Newa River - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)
A Fantastica Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)
A Orboros Hold
F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS
F Slightly Gulch Supports F GRIEF REEF
A Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Maze of Regrets (*Fails*)
A Ice Reach - Knurremurre
A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Kara-Tur Supports A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Cut*)
A Parce Pass Supports F Camelittle - Riku
F Camelittle - Riku
A Maze of Regrets Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Groves of Academe Hold
A Strawberry Fields - Vinyaya
A Daisy Meadows Supports F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
A Carpantha Hold
A Temple of Doom - Neverpeak Mtn
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels
A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Undermountain Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale
F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F GRIEF REEF Supports F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Port Ghaast (*Fails*)
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS (*Dislodged*)
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Hold
A Nehwon - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
F Pans Labyrinth Supports A The Neverwood
A The Silver city Supports F Kender - Ashan
F Sorrows End Supports A Pygmy (*Cut*)
A Niflheim Supports F Sorrows End
A Fafhrd Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk
A Dimmsdale Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Myth Drannor Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE (*Cut*)
F Great Glacier Supports F Myth Drannor
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city
F Kender - Ashan
A Walk of Clouds Supports F Kender - Ashan
A Heresh - Whoville
A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC - Gumdrop Isle (*Cut*)
A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
A Pwyll Supports A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Kender - Ashan
F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - ALL SAINTS BAY (*Fails*)
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)
F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho
F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho
F RIVER OF THE DAWN Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F ROARING RAPIDS - Gelfling
 
 
 

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dc394 Bad day to be small (dc394) Jim-Bob Aug 30, 04:20 pm
I'll go off the board so I can rebuild, please!  And I will openly veto the two way.  Two ways are REALLY fun to see (I have more two ways than solos) but have to be played out on the board. 
Interesting,Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



The little guys get the axe, getting completely obliterated on every front...
Dwarves manage 7 of 9 failed orders with a forced disband in Snow... and not to be outdone, the Hobbits manage to have 8 of 12 orders fail with double disbands in Tow / Abb.
 
RETREAT!
 
So that we can see the builds, I'm just gonna move these...
 
Dwarves: A Zhentil Keep - Thra (*May opt for Sil instead or OTB and Build 1!*)
Hobbits: F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
Knights: F RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
 
BUILD!
 
Hobbits: Build 2
Knights: Build 2
Rogues: Build 7 (3 possible)
Dwarves:  May Build 1 if taking Zhe OTB.  Otherwise, Even.
 
If I get the requisite builds by tomorrow Noonish, I'll send them out... otherwise when Hoffman returns.
 
Oh... and there's a 2-way RK proposed for when we resume.
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS!
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon Supports A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Cut*)
A Valley of Lost Honor Hold
A Zhentil Keep Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Fails*)

F Powry Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Thirsty Desert Supports A Two Towers - Candlekeep
A Nowwhat Supports A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Cut*)
A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Disbanded*)
 
Hobbits:
F Riku Supports F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Dislodged*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
A Waterdeep Supports F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Cut*)

A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Fails*)
F Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Disbanded*)
F Abby Normal Supports F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)

A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood - Baldurs Gate (*Fails*)
F Rivendell, no move received
 
Knights:
A Grissel Hold
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Hollow Earth Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVER
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)
A Newa River - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)

A Fantastica Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)
A Orboros Hold
F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS

F Slightly Gulch Supports F GRIEF REEF
A Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Maze of Regrets (*Fails*)
A Ice Reach - Knurremurre
A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)

F Kara-Tur Supports A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Cut*)
A Parce Pass Supports F Camelittle - Riku
F Camelittle - Riku
A Maze of Regrets Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Groves of Academe Hold
A Strawberry Fields - Vinyaya

A Daisy Meadows Supports F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
A Carpantha Hold
A Temple of Doom - Neverpeak Mtn
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels

A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Undermountain Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale

F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F GRIEF REEF Supports F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Port Ghaast (*Fails*)
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town

F RAZORS EDGE Supports F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS (*Dislodged*)
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Hold
A Nehwon - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
F Pans Labyrinth Supports A The Neverwood
A The Silver city Supports F Kender - Ashan
F Sorrows End Supports A Pygmy (*Cut*)

A Niflheim Supports F Sorrows End
A Fafhrd Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk
A Dimmsdale Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Myth Drannor Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE (*Cut*)
F Great Glacier Supports F Myth Drannor
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH

A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city
F Kender - Ashan
A Walk of Clouds Supports F Kender - Ashan
A Heresh - Whoville
A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC - Gumdrop Isle (*Cut*)

A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
A Pwyll Supports A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Kender - Ashan
F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - ALL SAINTS BAY (*Fails*)
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)

F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho

F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho
F RIVER OF THE DAWN Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F ROARING RAPIDS - Gelfling
 
 
 
dc394 Bad day to be small (dc394) Jim-Bob Aug 30, 04:41 pm
After looking at the map, I informed Mr. Sims that I could not in fact build, so I am staying on the board and am fine being in Thea. Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jim Burgess <jfburgess(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I'll go off the board so I can rebuild, please!  And I will openly veto the two way.  Two ways are REALLY fun to see (I have more two ways than solos) but have to be played out on the board.
 
Interesting,Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




The little guys get the axe, getting completely obliterated on every front...
Dwarves manage 7 of 9 failed orders with a forced disband in Snow... and not to be outdone, the Hobbits manage to have 8 of 12 orders fail with double disbands in Tow / Abb.

 
RETREAT!
 
So that we can see the builds, I'm just gonna move these...
 
Dwarves: A Zhentil Keep - Thra (*May opt for Sil instead or OTB and Build 1!*)
Hobbits: F Riku - MERMAIDS LAGOON
Knights: F RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
 
BUILD!
 
Hobbits: Build 2
Knights: Build 2
Rogues: Build 7 (3 possible)
Dwarves:  May Build 1 if taking Zhe OTB.  Otherwise, Even.
 
If I get the requisite builds by tomorrow Noonish, I'll send them out... otherwise when Hoffman returns.
 
Oh... and there's a 2-way RK proposed for when we resume.
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS!
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon Supports A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Cut*)
A Valley of Lost Honor Hold
A Zhentil Keep Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Hoarluk - Twisted Tunnels (*Fails*)

F Powry Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Uuno - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Thirsty Desert Supports A Two Towers - Candlekeep
A Nowwhat Supports A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Cut*)
A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Disbanded*)

 
Hobbits:
F Riku Supports F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Dislodged*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
A Waterdeep Supports F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Cut*)

A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
F Candlekeep - Kara-Tur (*Fails*)
F Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Disbanded*)
F Abby Normal Supports F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)

A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood - Baldurs Gate (*Fails*)
F Rivendell, no move received
 
Knights:
A Grissel Hold
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Hollow Earth Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVER
F Ella - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)
A Newa River - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)

A Fantastica Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT
A Baldurs Gate - Candlekeep (*Fails*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)
A Orboros Hold
F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS

F Slightly Gulch Supports F GRIEF REEF
A Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Maze of Regrets (*Fails*)
A Ice Reach - Knurremurre
A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)

F Kara-Tur Supports A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Cut*)
A Parce Pass Supports F Camelittle - Riku
F Camelittle - Riku
A Maze of Regrets Supports F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town
A Groves of Academe Hold
A Strawberry Fields - Vinyaya

A Daisy Meadows Supports F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale
A Cliffs of Insanity - Myth Drannor (*Fails*)
A Carpantha Hold
A Temple of Doom - Neverpeak Mtn
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Spirit Pond - Twisted Tunnels

A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Undermountain Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Snow Witch
A Venatori Umbrarum - Nowwhat (*Fails*)
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan - TILVA STRAIT

F TILVA STRAIT - Dimmsdale

F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F GRIEF REEF Supports F THON THALAS - Abby Normal
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Port Ghaast (*Fails*)
F RUGGED COAST - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RIFT CANYON - Travers Town

F RAZORS EDGE Supports F Land Ho - RESTLESS WATERS (*Dislodged*)
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Hold
A Nehwon - Devils Canyon (*Fails*)
F Pans Labyrinth Supports A The Neverwood
A The Silver city Supports F Kender - Ashan
F Sorrows End Supports A Pygmy (*Cut*)

A Niflheim Supports F Sorrows End
A Fafhrd Supports A Uuno - Hoarluk
A Dimmsdale Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Myth Drannor Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE (*Cut*)
F Great Glacier Supports F Myth Drannor
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH

A Pygmy Supports A The Silver city
F Kender - Ashan
A Walk of Clouds Supports F Kender - Ashan
A Heresh - Whoville
A Faerun - Waterdeep (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC - Gumdrop Isle (*Cut*)

A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
A Pwyll Supports A Dragon Coast - Zhentil Keep
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Kender - Ashan
F HIGH SEAS - THON THALAS (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - ALL SAINTS BAY (*Fails*)
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Fails*)

F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop Isle (*Bounce*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho

F GULF OF LUHN - Land Ho
F RIVER OF THE DAWN Supports F RESTLESS WATERS - RAZORS EDGE
F ROARING RAPIDS - Gelfling
 
 
 
dc394 s19 results! - briandiffell   (Aug 28, 2012, 9:41 am)
This one is different, the other one wasn't. I liked the other one
better.
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:44:21 -0500, "Michael Sims"
wrote:
It's different, really... did you look at Abb?
See attached...
-mike

This map looks the same.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:35:27 -0500, "Michael Sims"

wrote:
> Updated map! I missed a Hobbit order for Kah S GRR-Abb... Another
Knight
> fleet bites the dust...
> -mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Sims
> Sent: Mon 8/27/2012 3:41 PM
> Subject: dc394 s19 results!
>
>
> Two retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them
along...
>
> Knights:
> A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth
> F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
>
> Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall. Elves could squeak
out
> a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.
>
> Fall: THURSDAY! 8/30, 3pm Central.
>
> Enjoy!
> -mike
>
> ORDERS:
>
> Dwarves:
> A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
> A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)
> F Powry Supports A Hoarluk
> A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk
> A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor
> A Thirsty Desert, no move received
> A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
> A Thra - Zhentil Keep
>
> Elves:
> A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)
>
> Hobbits:
> F Mordor - Candlekeep
> F Rohan - Rivendell
> F Riku Supports F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS (*Cut*)
> A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
> F Kahvi Supports F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal
> F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)
> A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
> A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
> A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep
> F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)
> A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
> F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate
> F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal
>
> Knights:
> A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity
> A Prydain - Strawberry Fields
> F Grissel - TROG BOG
> A Mount Nimro Hold
> A Diamond Mines - Carpantha
> A Newa River Hold
> A Wing Hove - Ice Reach
> A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
> A Grimheim Supports F Ashan
> F Ashan, no move received
> A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)
> A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
> A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy
> A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
> F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
> F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
> A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
> F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON
> A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro
> A Calormen - Grissel
> A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
> F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)
> F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
> A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)
> F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
> A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)
> A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn
> A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River
> F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya
> A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
> F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
> A Temple of Doom Hold
> A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
> A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
> A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)
> A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat
> A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
> F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
> F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan
> F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)
> F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
> F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)
> F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
> F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST
> F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
(*Dislodged*)
> F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
>
> Rogues:
> A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds
> A Horborixen - Fafhrd
> A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
> A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy
> A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> F Dargaard Keep - Kender
> F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS
> F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast
> F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
> A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast
> F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS
> F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP
> F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
> A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> A Kender - Walk of Clouds
> A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
> F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
> A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
> F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN
> A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier
> F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city
> F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA
> F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
> F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
> F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
> F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
> F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
> F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN

[Reply]

dc394 s19 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 28, 2012, 8:44 am)
Re: dc394 s19 results!




It's different, really... did you look at Abb? 
See attached...
-mike

This map looks the same.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:35:27 -0500, "Michael Sims"
<mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
wrote:
> Updated map!  I missed a Hobbit order for Kah S GRR-Abb... Another
Knight
> fleet bites the dust...
> -mike


>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Sims
> Sent: Mon 8/27/2012 3:41 PM
> Subject: dc394 s19 results!
>
>
> Two retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them
along...

> Knights:
> A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth
> F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho

> Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall.  Elves could squeak
out
> a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.

> Fall:  THURSDAY!  8/30, 3pm Central.

> Enjoy!
> -mike

> ORDERS:

> Dwarves:
> A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
> A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)
> F Powry Supports A Hoarluk
> A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk
> A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor
> A Thirsty Desert, no move received
> A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
> A Thra - Zhentil Keep

> Elves:
> A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)

> Hobbits:
> F Mordor - Candlekeep
> F Rohan - Rivendell
> F Riku Supports F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS (*Cut*)
> A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
> F Kahvi Supports F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal
> F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)
> A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
> A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
> A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep
> F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)
> A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
> F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate
> F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal

> Knights:
> A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity
> A Prydain - Strawberry Fields
> F Grissel - TROG BOG
> A Mount Nimro Hold
> A Diamond Mines - Carpantha
> A Newa River Hold
> A Wing Hove - Ice Reach
> A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
> A Grimheim Supports F Ashan
> F Ashan, no move received
> A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)
> A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
> A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy
> A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
> F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
> F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
> A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
> F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON
> A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro
> A Calormen - Grissel
> A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
> F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)
> F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
> A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)
> F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
> A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)
> A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn
> A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River
> F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya
> A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
> F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
> A Temple of Doom Hold
> A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
> A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
> A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)
> A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat
> A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
> F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
> F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan
> F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)
> F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
> F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)
> F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
> F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST
> F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
(*Dislodged*)
> F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate

> Rogues:
> A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds
> A Horborixen - Fafhrd
> A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
> A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy
> A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> F Dargaard Keep - Kender
> F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS
> F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast
> F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
> A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast
> F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS
> F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP
> F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
> A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> A Kender - Walk of Clouds
> A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
> F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
> A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
> F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN
> A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier
> F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city
> F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA
> F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
> F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
> F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
> F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
> F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
> F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN

[Reply]

dc394 s19 results! - briandiffell   (Aug 28, 2012, 8:27 am)
This map looks the same.
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:35:27 -0500, "Michael Sims"
wrote:
Updated map! I missed a Hobbit order for Kah S GRR-Abb... Another
Knight
fleet bites the dust...
-mike



________________________________

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/27/2012 3:41 PM
Subject: dc394 s19 results!


Two retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them
along...

Knights:
A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth
F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho

Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall. Elves could squeak
out
a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.

Fall: THURSDAY! 8/30, 3pm Central.

Enjoy!
-mike

ORDERS:

Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)
F Powry Supports A Hoarluk
A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk
A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor
A Thirsty Desert, no move received
A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
A Thra - Zhentil Keep

Elves:
A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)

Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
F Rohan - Rivendell
F Riku Supports F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS (*Cut*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi Supports F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal
F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)
A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep
F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)
A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate
F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal

Knights:
A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity
A Prydain - Strawberry Fields
F Grissel - TROG BOG
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Diamond Mines - Carpantha
A Newa River Hold
A Wing Hove - Ice Reach
A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
A Grimheim Supports F Ashan
F Ashan, no move received
A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy
A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON
A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro
A Calormen - Grissel
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)
F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)
A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn
A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River
F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya
A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Temple of Doom Hold
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)
A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan
F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)
F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)
F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
(*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate

Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds
A Horborixen - Fafhrd
A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy
A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
F Dargaard Keep - Kender
F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS
F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast
F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast
F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS
F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP
F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
A Kender - Walk of Clouds
A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN
A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city
F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA
F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN

[Reply]

dc394 s19 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 28, 2012, 7:35 am)
Updated map!  I missed a Hobbit order for Kah S GRR-Abb... Another Knight fleet bites the dust...
-mike
 
 



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/27/2012 3:41 PM
Subject: dc394 s19 results!




Two retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them along...
 

Knights:
A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth
F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
 
Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall.  Elves could squeak out a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.
 
Fall:  THURSDAY!  8/30, 3pm Central.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS:
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)
F Powry Supports A Hoarluk
A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk
A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor
A Thirsty Desert, no move received
A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
A Thra - Zhentil Keep
 
Elves:
A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
F Rohan - Rivendell
F Riku Supports F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS (*Cut*)
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi Supports F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal
F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)
A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep
F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)
A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate
F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal
 
Knights:
A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity
A Prydain - Strawberry Fields
F Grissel - TROG BOG
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Diamond Mines - Carpantha
A Newa River Hold
A Wing Hove - Ice Reach
A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
A Grimheim Supports F Ashan
F Ashan, no move received
A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy
A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON
A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro
A Calormen - Grissel
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Disbanded*)
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)
F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)
A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn
A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River
F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya
A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Temple of Doom Hold
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)
A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan
F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)
F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)
F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds
A Horborixen - Fafhrd
A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy
A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
F Dargaard Keep - Kender
F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS
F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast
F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast
F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS
F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP
F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
A Kender - Walk of Clouds
A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN
A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city
F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA
F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN
 

[Reply]

dc394 s19 results! - offdisc   (Aug 28, 2012, 12:06 am)
Hoffman (me)  is leaving on vacation on Friday.  Joe is in the process of moving his house. Lot of pressure to get new moves in by Thursday for him, I'd expect.Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, <diplomacy(at)diffell.net> wrote:

I thought the break was to come after this Friday when Sims was leaving on

vacation?



On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:02:30 -0400, Jim Burgess <jfburgess(at)gmail.com>

wrote:

> We all understood that we were going into break after these Spring moves

> please?    Three of us have major problems doing another set of moves

for a

> bit of time.... don't worry, we won't lose momentum.

>

> Jim-Bob

>

> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Michael Sims

> <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>wrote:

>

>>  Three retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them

>> along...

>>

>>  Hobbits:

>> F GRIEF REEF - MERMAIDS LAGOON

>>

>> Knights:

>> A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth

>> F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho

>>

>> *Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall.*  Elves could

squeak

>> out a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.

>>

>> *Fall:  THURSDAY!  8/30, 3pm Central.*

>>

>> Enjoy!

>> -mike

>>

>> ORDERS:

>>

>> Dwarves:

>> A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch

>> A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)

>> F Powry Supports A Hoarluk

>> A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk

>> A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon

>> A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor

>> A Thirsty Desert, no move received

>> A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch

>> A Thra - Zhentil Keep

>>

>> Elves:

>> A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)

>>

>> Hobbits:

>> F Mordor - Candlekeep

>> F Rohan - Rivendell

>> F Riku, no move received

>> A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town

>> F Kahvi, no move received

>> F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)

>> A City of Splendors - Waterdeep

>> A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat

>> A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep

>> F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)

>> A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat

>> F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate

>> F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal (*Dislodged*)

>>

>> Knights:

>> A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity

>> A Prydain - Strawberry Fields

>> F Grissel - TROG BOG

>> A Mount Nimro Hold

>> A Diamond Mines - Carpantha

>> A Newa River Hold

>> A Wing Hove - Ice Reach

>> A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town

>> A Grimheim Supports F Ashan

>> F Ashan, no move received

>> A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)

>> A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)

>> A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy

>> A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate

>> F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF

>> F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle

>> A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)

>> F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON

>> A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro

>> A Calormen - Grissel

>> A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)

>> F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Cut*)

>> F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate

>> A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)

>> F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF

>> A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)

>> A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn

>> A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River

>> F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya

>> A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)

>> F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN

>> A Temple of Doom Hold

>> A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk

>> A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)

>> A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)

>> A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat

>> A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk

>> F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros

>> F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan

>> F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)

>> F TROG BOG - THON THALAS

>> F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)

>> F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella

>> F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST

>> F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town

(*Dislodged*)

>> F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate

>>

>> Rogues:

>> A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds

>> A Horborixen - Fafhrd

>> A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon

>> F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)

>> A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy

>> A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End

>> F Dargaard Keep - Kender

>> F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS

>> F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast

>> F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor

>> A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast

>> F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS

>> F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP

>> F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY

>> A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End

>> A Kender - Walk of Clouds

>> A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale

>> F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY

>> A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon

>> A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep

>> F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN

>> A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier

>> F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city

>> F THON THALAS - Sorrows End

>> F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA

>> F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor

>> F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)

>> F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale

>> F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS

>> F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS

>> F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN

>>

>>

>>

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dc394 s19 results! - briandiffell   (Aug 27, 2012, 10:30 pm)
I thought the break was to come after this Friday when Sims was leaving on
vacation?
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:02:30 -0400, Jim Burgess
wrote:
We all understood that we were going into break after these Spring moves
please? Three of us have major problems doing another set of moves
for a
bit of time.... don't worry, we won't lose momentum.

Jim-Bob

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Michael Sims
wrote:

> Three retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them
> along...
>
> Hobbits:
> F GRIEF REEF - MERMAIDS LAGOON
>
> Knights:
> A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth
> F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
>
> *Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall.* Elves could
squeak
> out a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.
>
> *Fall: THURSDAY! 8/30, 3pm Central.*
>
> Enjoy!
> -mike
>
> ORDERS:
>
> Dwarves:
> A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
> A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)
> F Powry Supports A Hoarluk
> A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk
> A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor
> A Thirsty Desert, no move received
> A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
> A Thra - Zhentil Keep
>
> Elves:
> A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)
>
> Hobbits:
> F Mordor - Candlekeep
> F Rohan - Rivendell
> F Riku, no move received
> A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
> F Kahvi, no move received
> F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)
> A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
> A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
> A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep
> F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)
> A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
> F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate
> F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal (*Dislodged*)
>
> Knights:
> A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity
> A Prydain - Strawberry Fields
> F Grissel - TROG BOG
> A Mount Nimro Hold
> A Diamond Mines - Carpantha
> A Newa River Hold
> A Wing Hove - Ice Reach
> A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
> A Grimheim Supports F Ashan
> F Ashan, no move received
> A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)
> A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
> A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy
> A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
> F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
> F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
> A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
> F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON
> A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro
> A Calormen - Grissel
> A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
> F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Cut*)
> F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
> A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)
> F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
> A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)
> A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn
> A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River
> F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya
> A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
> F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
> A Temple of Doom Hold
> A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
> A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
> A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)
> A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat
> A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
> F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
> F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan
> F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)
> F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
> F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)
> F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
> F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST
> F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
(*Dislodged*)
> F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
>
> Rogues:
> A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds
> A Horborixen - Fafhrd
> A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
> A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy
> A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> F Dargaard Keep - Kender
> F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS
> F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast
> F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
> A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast
> F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS
> F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP
> F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
> A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> A Kender - Walk of Clouds
> A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
> F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
> A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
> A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
> F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN
> A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier
> F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A The Silver city
> F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
> F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA
> F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
> F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
> F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
> F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
> F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
> F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN
>
>
>

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dc394 s19 results! - chaosonejoe   (Aug 27, 2012, 6:17 pm)
Then, you must say good-bye!




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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: dc394 s19 results!



Thank you for the offer, but nay on the draw vote.

--- On Mon, 8/27/12, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:


From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
Subject: dc394 s19 results!
To: "Michael Penner" <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>, baz.dip(at)gmail.com, dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com, diplomacy(at)diffell.net, chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com, welsh_stroud(at)msn.com, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com, "Jerome Payne" <jerome777(at)ymail.com>, jfburgess(at)gmail.com, wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com, mjn82(at)yahoo.com, mrh(at)panix.com, sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com, Spinozas(at)gmx.net, kingkovas(at)gmail.com, clockheardt(at)yahoo.com, tiga124(at)aol.com, tomahaha(at)frontiernet.net
Cc: "dc394" <dc394(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 4:41 PM




Three retreats, but each with only one option so I just moved them along...
 
Hobbits:
F GRIEF REEF - MERMAIDS LAGOON
 
Knights:
A Snow Witch - Hollow Earth
F RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
 
Another 4-way is proposed, vote yay/nay this fall.  Elves could squeak out a 1-dot survival (even w/o a unit) if it passes.
 
Fall:  THURSDAY!  8/30, 3pm Central.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 
ORDERS:
 
Dwarves:
A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
A Hoarluk Supports A Horborixen - Fafhrd (*Cut*)
F Powry Supports A Hoarluk
A Uuno Supports A Hoarluk
A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor
A Thirsty Desert, no move received
A Nowwhat Supports A Devils Canyon - Snow Witch
A Thra - Zhentil Keep
 
Elves:
A Waterdeep Hold (*Disbanded*)
 
Hobbits:
F Mordor - Candlekeep
F Rohan - Rivendell
F Riku, no move received
A The Neverwood Supports F Travers Town
F Kahvi, no move received
F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Disbanded*)
A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
A Krikkit Supports A Nowwhat
A Two Towers Supports F Mordor - Candlekeep
F Travers Town Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS (*Cut*)
A The Wilderland Supports A Nowwhat
F Yuirwood Supports F Baldurs Gate
F GRIEF REEF - Abby Normal (*Dislodged*)
 
Knights:
A Llyr - Cliffs of Insanity
A Prydain - Strawberry Fields
F Grissel - TROG BOG
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Diamond Mines - Carpantha
A Newa River Hold
A Wing Hove - Ice Reach
A Fantastica Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town
A Grimheim Supports F Ashan
F Ashan, no move received
A Sorrows End - Pygmy (*Disbanded*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Orboros Supports A Sorrows End - Pygmy
A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
F Slightly Gulch Supports F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
F Neverpeak Mtn - Camelittle
A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
F Myth Drannor - RIFT CANYON
A Spirit Pond Supports A Mount Nimro
A Calormen - Grissel
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Abby Normal Supports F TROG BOG - THON THALAS (*Cut*)
F Kara-Tur Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
A Parce Pass - Riku (*Fails*)
F Camelittle - GRIEF REEF
A
Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Fails*)
A Critter Country - Neverpeak Mtn
A Groves of Academe Supports A Newa River
F Land of Sweets - Vinyaya
A Daisy Meadows - Dimmsdale (*Fails*)
F Port Ghaast - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Temple of Doom Hold
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Snow Witch - Nowwhat (*Dislodged*)
A Undermountain Supports A Snow Witch - Nowwhat
A Venatori Umbrarum Supports A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
F SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan
F TILVA STRAIT - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)
F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
F ALL SAINTS BAY - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Disbanded*)
F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
F HORNED BAY - RUGGED COAST
F RESTLESS WATERS Supports A Maze of Regrets - Travers Town (*Dislodged*)
F RAZORS EDGE Supports A Candlekeep - Baldurs Gate
 
Rogues:
A To-Gai-Ru Supports A Kender - Walk of Clouds
A Horborixen - Fafhrd
A Nehwon Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
F Pans Labyrinth - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
A The Silver city Supports A Pygmy
A Niflheim Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
F Dargaard Keep - Kender
F Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS
F Gumdrop Isle - Port Ghaast
F Great Glacier Supports F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
A Zhentil Keep - Dragon Coast
F Caer - ROARING RAPIDS
F The Old Gristmill - ZEBOIMS DEEP
F The Julianthes Supports F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
A Pygmy Supports F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
A Kender - Walk of Clouds
A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
F Timberlands - ALL SAINTS BAY
A Heresh Supports A Ilthmar - Devils Canyon
A Faerun Supports A City of Splendors - Waterdeep
F Rivendell - GULF OF LUHN
A Pwyll Supports F Great Glacier
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A
The Silver city
F THON THALAS - Sorrows End
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - SAVAGE SEA
F CHURNING REACH - Myth Drannor
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Fails*)
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
F GULF OF LUHN - RESTLESS WATERS
F ROARING RAPIDS - RIVER OF THE DAWN
 
 

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