| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - jeffreykase at yahoo.com (Jun 08, 2009, 11:22 am) |
| In my games I've always accomodated player preference instead of random assignment and this always seems to work out (at worst, some players get their 2nd or 3rd choice). If I gm'ed a game that had a [Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - martinhaven (Jun 08, 2009, 11:20 am) |
Gentlemen.
This is not my EOG, but a response to the running thread about England and playability.
Warren brought up a good point...that being that I've played in several games. And in those gam[Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - dipping_chris at yahoo... (Jun 08, 2009, 11:09 am) |
Warren,
[quote:821325c519]For future games, it might be well to take
advantage of your detailed Excel spreadsheet to try to
assign countries to players who have not had those countries
yet. [Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - jeffreykase at yahoo.com (Jun 08, 2009, 11:01 am) |
Jeff:
Regarding the rule on a center becoming a 3rd home center for the 2 SC powers, there MAY be some very minor tweaking of this rule to accomodate Judge programming - which is still in the testi[Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - laxrulz777 (Jun 08, 2009, 10:23 am) |
| I would agree... More than most, this variant (with 10 powers, unknown information of DPs and variable home SCs) requires you to know what your opponent wants. In normal diplomacy, England and Austria [Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - warren_k_ball@yahoo.com (Jun 08, 2009, 10:11 am) |
Thanx Chris,
Yes, it's hard to trace the experience of those who played this variant. As well, some players may have played once & not cared for it, thus never playing again, whereas others may[Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: POLAND - MattKelly (Jun 08, 2009, 6:25 am) |
[quote:75b53015c4]
Congrats to Frank on his solo. My apologies to all for the minimal communication. Very busy on my end. Thanks to both Turkey/Robert and Nathan/Russia, even after grabbing Kiev, fo[Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players &... - dipping_chris at yahoo... (Jun 07, 2009, 9:32 pm) |
Baron, Warren et al,
[quote:30e74944d0]16 or so games is not a good
statistical sample. This excellent variant of
Baron's hasn't been around long enough to get a good
feel for country strength. 25-[Reply] |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 08, 10:11 am |
Thanx Chris,
Yes, it's hard to trace the experience of those who played this variant. As well, some players may have played once & not cared for it, thus never playing again, whereas others may |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) laxrulz777 Jun 08, 10:23 am |
| I would agree... More than most, this variant (with 10 powers, unknown information of DPs and variable home SCs) requires you to know what your opponent wants. In normal diplomacy, England and Austria |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) jeffreykase at yahoo.com Jun 08, 11:01 am |
Jeff:
Regarding the rule on a center becoming a 3rd home center for the 2 SC powers, there MAY be some very minor tweaking of this rule to accomodate Judge programming - which is still in the testi |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) dipping_chris at yahoo... Jun 08, 11:09 am |
Warren,
[quote:821325c519]For future games, it might be well to take
advantage of your detailed Excel spreadsheet to try to
assign countries to players who have not had those countries
yet. |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) martinhaven Jun 08, 11:20 am |
Gentlemen.
This is not my EOG, but a response to the running thread about England and playability.
Warren brought up a good point...that being that I've played in several games. And in those gam |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) jeffreykase at yahoo.com Jun 08, 11:22 am |
| In my games I've always accomodated player preference instead of random assignment and this always seems to work out (at worst, some players get their 2nd or 3rd choice). If I gm'ed a game that had a |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) jeffreykase at yahoo.com Jun 08, 11:25 am |
Don't know who initially mentioned it, but the notion that the perception of Britain's might has a lot to do with its downfall, has a lot of weight.
--- On [b:f19b01309f]Mon, 6/8/09, frankmartin(at)su |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 08, 11:36 am |
It has been many years since I played the game. IIRC, there was a "half strength" naval move in it.
It seemed to me that perhaps helping out the 2 SC powers might take the route of " |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) laxrulz777 Jun 08, 12:21 pm |
"Don't know who initially mentioned it, but the notion that the perception of Britain's might has a lot to do with its downfall, has a lot of weight."
I think a couple people have |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) txurce Jun 08, 02:10 pm |
| I listed Austria first and Britain second, but I had Spain over all the 3-SC powers. (Not that I'd keep that order now, necessarily.) Something else that would affect my choices is the fun fac |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 08, 02:21 pm |
Well, if we didn't all have fun then we wouldn't play! It's a great variant.
All I'm saying is that I doubt that any1 would prefer a 2-sc power over England or Austria & maybe a 3-sc power. Yet |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) martinhaven Jun 08, 03:33 pm |
The advantage of Austria and England is their superiority at the outset. But they both have challenges.
England has to do something productive with Gib, and must protect against having Hanover popp |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) txurce Jun 08, 04:49 pm |
Based on my one-game experience, I see it pretty much like Frank does. Now back to my EOG.
Jorge
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM, <frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/ |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 08, 04:54 pm |
| Well, u kinda prove the point that some countries r preferable to others, challenges notwithstanding. u may have been in the game with me, where a 2-sc power was gone in just the 1st or 2nd year. That |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) mjn82 Jun 08, 05:01 pm |
Congratulations Frank,
You definitely the deserved the victory!
Well, I asked for France and certainly made an early game mistake in my dipping. It was minimal the first turn as I was not onl |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) txurce Jun 08, 08:55 pm |
I would like to thank the academy…
I have never made more of an effort, had worse results, or enjoyed a game more than I did this one (well, except for the time I came back from the dead to elimin |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) MDemagogue Jun 08, 11:47 pm |
Since I've been assailed as an uncommunicative player it's time to correct that impression.
In response to Poland, I initially attempted to communicate with you but received no response. |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 09, 10:00 am |
Alas, where there is a solo, there is also finger pointing. So & so #1 didn't communicate, so & so #2 played bad tactics that allowed the solo, etc.
As I pointed out b4 the EoG's, Frank won |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) txurce Jun 09, 10:22 am |
Warren,
Most of your observations are on the money, but you're wrong on two points.
First, Spain never went back to Britain after multiple stabs. After the French convoy stab, he "i |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 09, 11:37 am |
| Well, I wasn't privy to the emails obviously but I saw the moves. I find it very hard to believe that anyone offered France a worse deal than being repeatedly stabbed. I don't agree w/him allying w/Br |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) smileyrob Jun 09, 08:19 pm |
| I guess it is about time I write an EOG and add my two cents to the discussion, particularly as it seems my decision to retreat to Ion in the second to last game year triggered Jorge and his vassal Is |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240: Players & Powers (dc240) David.Gould at aph.gov.au Jun 14, 10:25 pm |
Sorry for the late EOG - I have had a busy week.
While we certainly all share responsibility for allowing Frank to reach the solo, much of it is mine. I will lay out my thinking on playing Diplomac |
| Ambition & Empire 090205 / DC240 - vonpowell (Jun 07, 2009, 6:35 pm) |
Hey Gang,
I must confess that I was pulling for Denmark-Norway to be part of the win, if not to solo outright. Once again, however, the purple clad Danes came up short. I'll take solace in the fact[Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - warren_k_ball@yahoo.com (Jun 07, 2009, 1:51 pm) |
Were you assigned France twice at random or did you request it? Have you played each country at least once?
--- On [b:d7a1bde47d]Sun, 6/7/09, Chris McInerney [i:d7a1bde47d]<c.p.mcinerney(at)gmail.c[Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - warren_k_ball@yahoo.com (Jun 07, 2009, 1:49 pm) |
| I kept thinking the same thing. England stabbed early but nobody ganged up on him. As well, the players he stabbed then worked again with him & got stabbed again! They just kept coming back for mo [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - laxrulz777 (Jun 07, 2009, 1:37 pm) |
| Yup... well played Frank. I'm curious if you actually felt like others were the main threat or if that was just clever diplomacy. As an outsider, I kept looking at that thinking, "How is he k [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - c.p.mcinerney at gmail... (Jun 07, 2009, 1:32 pm) |
IIRC, I've played France twice in A&E.
Congrats to Frank!
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Warren Ball <warren_k_ball(at)yahoo.com ([email]warren_k_ball(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:[Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation to Frank Martin, our British winner (dc240) laxrulz777 Jun 07, 01:37 pm |
| Yup... well played Frank. I'm curious if you actually felt like others were the main threat or if that was just clever diplomacy. As an outsider, I kept looking at that thinking, "How is he k |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation to Frank Martin, our British winner (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 07, 01:49 pm |
| I kept thinking the same thing. England stabbed early but nobody ganged up on him. As well, the players he stabbed then worked again with him & got stabbed again! They just kept coming back for mo |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation to Frank Martin, our British winner (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 07, 01:51 pm |
Were you assigned France twice at random or did you request it? Have you played each country at least once?
--- On [b:d7a1bde47d]Sun, 6/7/09, Chris McInerney [i:d7a1bde47d]<c.p.mcinerney(at)gmail.c |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - warren_k_ball@yahoo.com (Jun 07, 2009, 1:16 pm) |
| 16 or so games is not a good statistical sample. This excellent variant of Baron's hasn't been around long enough to get a good feel for country strength. 25-30 trials is a fairly well recognized mini [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - jeffreykase at yahoo.com (Jun 07, 2009, 1:04 pm) |
| This was a great game to watch and I wanted to say thanks to all the participants and especially, to Nick for GM'ing this game and providing the opportunity for players to take a stab at A&E (pun [Reply] |
| EOG From Sweden (remember me?) - Sturmkraehe (Jun 06, 2009, 12:21 pm) |
| It was fascinating watching the game progress even after I was eliminated. The level of play was significantly higher than I have seen in my limited time playing on DC. The use of press was somethin [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - davidchegould at telst... (Jun 06, 2009, 12:13 am) |
Congratulations, Frank!
Great alliance play and great diplomacy - far superior to my own.
I am glad that I outguessed you on the final move, though, so my tactics are still up to scratch.
I w[Reply] |
| A&E 090205: Game History - NickHiggins (Jun 05, 2009, 9:22 pm) |
I have attached the complete game history to this e-mail.
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Nick Higgins
Congress of Vienna variant website:
http://1814congressofvienna.tripod.com[Reply] |
| A&E 090205: Game History (dc240) martinhaven Jun 08, 12:04 pm |
EOG from England:
OK, as I stated in my previous e-mail, I was thrilled to find myself in England. I looked at the player assignments, and found a known player in David, right next to me in Denmark |
| A&E 090205: Game History (dc240) nathanalbright Jun 08, 12:23 pm |
Russian EoG,
This was a very unusual A & E, and a highly frustrating one, but it must have been rewarding for Frank to get his first (and well-earned win). Though I was not able to ever get par |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation... - NickHiggins (Jun 05, 2009, 9:19 pm) |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: It was a weird ending to a game that reached peaks with Diplomacy being played at the highest level, and then other moments that were decidedly less lofty. By the way, the amb [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation to Frank Martin, our British winner (dc240) davidchegould at telst... Jun 06, 12:13 am |
Congratulations, Frank!
Great alliance play and great diplomacy - far superior to my own.
I am glad that I outguessed you on the final move, though, so my tactics are still up to scratch.
I w |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation to Frank Martin, our British winner (dc240) jeffreykase at yahoo.com Jun 07, 01:04 pm |
| This was a great game to watch and I wanted to say thanks to all the participants and especially, to Nick for GM'ing this game and providing the opportunity for players to take a stab at A&E (pun |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Game Over - Congratulation to Frank Martin, our British winner (dc240) warren_k_ball@yahoo.com Jun 07, 01:16 pm |
| 16 or so games is not a good statistical sample. This excellent variant of Baron's hasn't been around long enough to get a good feel for country strength. 25-30 trials is a fairly well recognized mini |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: adjudication delay - NickHiggins (Jun 04, 2009, 11:27 pm) |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: There will be an adjudication delay as I attempt to clarify an order set received from a player. Normally I would interpret the written orders the best that I can, but I think [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Spring 1770 Retreat Adjudi... - NickHiggins (May 29, 2009, 8:17 am) |
A&E 090205 / DC240: The Spring 1770 Retreat season has been adjudicated. The Austrian army in Burgundy retreats to Savoy. Our next deadline for Fall 1770 is Thu June 4th.
Nick
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| A&E 090205/DC240: Spring 1770 adjudicated - NickHiggins (May 28, 2009, 9:33 pm) |
| A&E 090205/DC240: The Spring 1770 season has been adjudicated. This was a mainly passive turn, although a few SCs did change hands, with the Danes marching into British Berlin, the British slidin [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Winter 1769 adjudicated - NickHiggins (May 25, 2009, 11:49 pm) |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: The Winter 1769 season has been adjudicated. I never received an order from France, and so the default rules apply. I'm not sure if I'll spelled these out yet, so here are th [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Fall 1769 Retreat season a... - NickHiggins (May 22, 2009, 7:28 pm) |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: The Fall 1769 Retreat season has been adjudicated. The Turkish fleet retreats to the Ionian Sea. Build orders are needed from Britain, Denmark, and Turkey (because of the des [Reply] |
| A&E 090205 / DC240: Auf Wiedersehn, Kaiser Mar... - NickHiggins (May 21, 2009, 10:17 pm) |
A&E 090205 / DC240: The Fall 1769 season has been adjudicated. We've lost our second player, Mark Utterback, whose last army was expelled from Berlin this fall. Thanks for playing Mark.
It wa[Reply] |
