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dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarifica... - Jimmy.Ghostine at vtme...   (Dec 11, 2008, 9:40 am)
No sweat gentlemen. I use the same program as Rachael, and knew the outcome of the commit move. That's the outcome I prefer.
I will be submitting disband orders so everyone keep their cool.
Cheers gents
J

________________________________
From: Former Trout [former.trout(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:46 PM
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com; David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz; David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia; DC 212 Forum; Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey; Ghostine, Jimmy; Jon Stern DC 212 Austria; Patrick Canning DC 212 France; Stephen Lytton
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification

Woah woah woah.. How did I get roped into that end part there... =P

Thanks Rachael..

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
Folks,
Italy is not in Civil Disorder. Italy did not send in a retreat, so therefore the unit was a no move received. I use a program called realpolitik, so when I put the orders in and then commit and resolve those orders. His unit is automatically disbanded due to not retreating. I will be replacing Italy if he does NMR one more time. End of story. If anyone has any complaints or questions please feel free to ask Trout or shoot an email to Stephen Lytton at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com<mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>

-Rachael

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com<mailto:yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>>, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net<mailto:davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com<mailto:dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com<mailto:drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org<mailto:Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com<mailto:jstern78(at)gmail.com>>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com<mailto:patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com<mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:49 AM


Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com<mailto:yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz> <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>> wrote:

From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz> <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net<mailto:davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com<mailto:dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com<mailto:drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org<mailto:Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com<mailto:jstern78(at)gmail.com>>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com<mailto:patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com<mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com<mailto:yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM
ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth

[Reply]

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarifica... - former.trout   (Dec 10, 2008, 5:47 pm)
Woah woah woah.. How did I get roped into that end part there... =P

Thanks Rachael..

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Folks,
Italy is not in Civil Disorder. Italy did not send in a retreat, so therefore the unit was a no move received. I use a program called realpolitik, so when I put the orders in and then commit and resolve those orders. His unit is automatically disbanded due to not retreating. I will be replacing Italy if he does NMR one more time. End of story. If anyone has any complaints or questions please feel free to ask Trout or shoot an email to Stephen Lytton at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])

-Rachael

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1e7284c611] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]), "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:49 AM


Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1e7284c611]Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])> wrote:

[quote:1e7284c611]From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM


ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth






[/quote:1e7284c611]





[/quote:1e7284c611]
[/quote:1e7284c611]

[Reply]

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarifica... - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 10, 2008, 5:39 pm)
Folks,
Italy is not in Civil Disorder. Italy did not send in a retreat, so therefore the unit was a no move received. I use a program called realpolitik, so when I put the orders in and then commit and resolve those orders. His unit is automatically disbanded due to not retreating. I will be replacing Italy if he does NMR one more time. End of story. If anyone has any complaints or questions please feel free to ask Trout or shoot an email to Stephen Lytton at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com

-Rachael

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:

From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:49 AM

Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:56f195590e]Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])> wrote:

[quote:56f195590e]From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM


ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth






[/quote:56f195590e]



[/quote:56f195590e]

[Reply]

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarifica... - former.trout   (Dec 10, 2008, 10:49 am)
Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])> wrote:

[quote:89aa32d7b4]From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM


ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth






[/quote:89aa32d7b4]

[Reply]

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarifica... - yeeha77   (Dec 10, 2008, 10:48 am)
Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz> wrote:

From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM
ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth

[Reply]

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarifica... - David.Ellsworth at dar...   (Dec 10, 2008, 8:45 am)
ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn in a disband order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean Fleet would be the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his unit in place for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely) lost position? Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if he doesn't submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game somewhat. Should no orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy Naples in the Spring and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an active and concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will still very likely be lost by years end, but he could confound things for Austria (most likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not counting indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to what outcome I would prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need to consider. Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing players and the remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I am just trying to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in this game, but for the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us know if you are still with the game.


David Ellsworth

[Reply]

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification (dc212) yeeha77 Dec 10, 10:48 am
Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz> wrote:

From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM
ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth

dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification (dc212) former.trout Dec 10, 10:49 am
Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])> wrote:

[quote:89aa32d7b4]From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM


ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth






[/quote:89aa32d7b4]
dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification (dc212) Verticallychallangedcutie Dec 10, 05:39 pm
Folks,
Italy is not in Civil Disorder. Italy did not send in a retreat, so therefore the unit was a no move received. I use a program called realpolitik, so when I put the orders in and then commit and resolve those orders. His unit is automatically disbanded due to not retreating. I will be replacing Italy if he does NMR one more time. End of story. If anyone has any complaints or questions please feel free to ask Trout or shoot an email to Stephen Lytton at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com

-Rachael

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:

From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:49 AM

Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:56f195590e]Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])> wrote:

[quote:56f195590e]From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM


ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth






[/quote:56f195590e]



[/quote:56f195590e]
dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification (dc212) former.trout Dec 10, 05:47 pm
Woah woah woah.. How did I get roped into that end part there... =P

Thanks Rachael..

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Folks,
Italy is not in Civil Disorder. Italy did not send in a retreat, so therefore the unit was a no move received. I use a program called realpolitik, so when I put the orders in and then commit and resolve those orders. His unit is automatically disbanded due to not retreating. I will be replacing Italy if he does NMR one more time. End of story. If anyone has any complaints or questions please feel free to ask Trout or shoot an email to Stephen Lytton at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])

-Rachael

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1e7284c611] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]), "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:49 AM


Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1e7284c611]Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])> wrote:

[quote:1e7284c611]From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email]) <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz ([email]David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz[/email])>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM


ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth






[/quote:1e7284c611]





[/quote:1e7284c611]
[/quote:1e7284c611]
dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification (dc212) Jimmy.Ghostine at vtme... Dec 11, 09:40 am
No sweat gentlemen. I use the same program as Rachael, and knew the outcome of the commit move. That's the outcome I prefer.
I will be submitting disband orders so everyone keep their cool.
Cheers gents
J

________________________________
From: Former Trout [former.trout(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:46 PM
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com; David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz; David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia; DC 212 Forum; Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey; Ghostine, Jimmy; Jon Stern DC 212 Austria; Patrick Canning DC 212 France; Stephen Lytton
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification

Woah woah woah.. How did I get roped into that end part there... =P

Thanks Rachael..

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
Folks,
Italy is not in Civil Disorder. Italy did not send in a retreat, so therefore the unit was a no move received. I use a program called realpolitik, so when I put the orders in and then commit and resolve those orders. His unit is automatically disbanded due to not retreating. I will be replacing Italy if he does NMR one more time. End of story. If anyone has any complaints or questions please feel free to ask Trout or shoot an email to Stephen Lytton at stevelytton(at)hotmail.com<mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>

-Rachael

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: yeeha77(at)yahoo.com<mailto:yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>>, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net<mailto:davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com<mailto:dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com<mailto:drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org<mailto:Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com<mailto:jstern78(at)gmail.com>>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com<mailto:patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com<mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:49 AM


Probably a momentary slip - happens to the best of us folks. I'm sure Jimmy will be back in contact with Rachael and with the rest of us. =)

Trout

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com<mailto:yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
Jimmy
I know we haven't played nice, but we want you back. Things can always change, but being a pain in someone's tush can be rewarding and fun. In Dave's spirit- I am not suggesting a target. They are numerous....

To the rest- if we don't hear from Jimmy I would suggest we find a replacement. We all signed up for a seven person game.

Greg


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz> <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>> wrote:

From: David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz> <David.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz<mailtoVery Happyavid.Ellsworth(at)dart.biz>>
Subject: dc212 1904 Winter Disbands Open Question/Clarification
To: "Rachael Jameson" <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>>
Cc: "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net<mailto:davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>>, "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com<mailto:dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com<mailto:drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>>, "Former Trout DC 212 Germany" <former.trout(at)gmail.com<mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com>>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org<mailto:Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com<mailto:jstern78(at)gmail.com>>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com<mailto:patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com<mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com<mailto:yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>>
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:45 AM
ONE PLAYER'S OPINION

I am hoping this is not the case, but should Italy not turn
in a disband
order this winter, what happens?

1. It is my understanding that his Eastern Mediterranean
Fleet would be
the default disband. Is that correct?

2. Would a NBR put him in Civil Disorder, thus leaving his
unit in place
for the next year? Would we pause to fill the (extremely)
lost position?
Would he be allowed to submit orders in the Spring even if
he doesn't
submit his disband order?

I am concerned about this for it does affect the game
somewhat. Should no
orders be given for the Italians, Austria will occupy
Naples in the Spring
and be able to support the defense in the fall. Should an
active and
concerned Italian player still submit orders, Italy will
still very likely
be lost by years end, but he could confound things for
Austria (most
likely), and possibly France, Turkey, and Russia. (not
counting
indirectly Germany and England.)

Please don't try to read any personal opinion as to
what outcome I would
prefer. I am only trying to ascertain what dynamics I need
to consider.
Having been a GM myself, I know the frustrations of losing
players and the
remaining players needing to adjust to the new dynamic. I
am just trying
to understand the possible outcomes of a possible NBR.

Jimmy, I know we haven't seen eye to eye on much in
this game, but for
the sake of the sport, I encourage you to openly let us
know if you are
still with the game.


David Ellsworth

DC 212 1904 Autumn Retreats - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 09, 2008, 9:56 pm)
Folks,
Italy did not get his retreat in on time. It is now 24 hours past the deadline, and I have checked my inbox several times over looking for something. So he NRR's, which means his unit is disbanded. Here's the retreats.

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>

Orders:

England:
A Kiel - Holland

Germany:
A Burgundy - Munich

Italy:
A Rome, no move received (*Disbanded*)

Russia:
A Norway - Finland


Deadline:
Let's set the winter deadline for Thurs Dec 11th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Map and dpy file is attached for your convenience.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Fall 1904 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 05, 2008, 10:38 pm)
Folks,

While the Christmas lights go up on some houses, others have to take theirs down, pack and move before the winter snow gets here....

With that said..I need to know who is going to be away for the Christmas season, who isn't going anywhere. That way we can work the deadlines around everyone's schedule. And now onto the turn.

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>

Orders:

Austria:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Greece - Constantinople
A Budapest - Galicia
A Greece - Constantinople
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
A Tuscany - Rome
A Venice Supports A Tuscany - Rome

England:
F Belgium Supports F North Sea
F Denmark Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden
A Kiel Supports F Baltic Sea - Berlin (*Dislodged*)
F North Sea Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Fails*)

France:
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A North Africa - Tunis
A Paris Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy
F Piedmont - Gulf of Lyon
F Western Mediterranean Supports A North Africa - Tunis

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports F Sweden
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Kiel

Italy:
F Eastern Mediterranean - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Rome - Tunis (*Dislodged*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Rome - Tunis

Russia:
F Armenia - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Kiel
A Norway Supports F Sweden (*Dislodged*)
A Prussia - Silesia
A Rumania - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow
F Sweden Supports A Norway (*Cut*)

Turkey:
A Ankara - Armenia (*Fails*)
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec) (*Bounce*)
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean (*Fails*)

Retreats:

We have quite a few retreats due this Autumn...

German A Burgundy can retreat to Gascony or Picardy or Ruhr or Munich.
English A Kiel can retreat to Holland or Ruhr.
Russian A Norway can retreat to Finland or St Petersburg.
Italian A Rome can retreat to Naples or Apulia.

Let's set the deadline for retreats for Monday Dec. 8th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). I'll send out the map after the retreats but I have attached the dpy. file for you to view.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Vote - David.Ellsworth at dar...   (Dec 05, 2008, 3:38 pm)
either way is fine for me .... I'll be gone until late anyway!

Have a great weekend!

David Ellsworth
Retail Film Production Planning
Materials Group - Mason, MI
x2661

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DC 212 Vote - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 05, 2008, 3:15 pm)
Folks,
Here is my question...I have all 7 sets of orders in. Tonight my husband and I are taking our daughters to see The Lights of The South at 7pm. I can adjudicate now or wait until I get home around 10ish. What are your guys thoughts?

-Rachael

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DC 212 Vote (dc212) David.Ellsworth at dar... Dec 05, 03:38 pm
either way is fine for me .... I'll be gone until late anyway!

Have a great weekend!

David Ellsworth
Retail Film Production Planning
Materials Group - Mason, MI
x2661
DC 212 Deadline Reminder - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 05, 2008, 11:49 am)
Folks,
The deadline is in about 6 hours and I am still missing 3 sets of orders. If you do not get your orders in by the 7pm deadline I will NMR you. This is your one and only warning.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Summer 1904 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 29, 2008, 7:32 pm)
Folks,
France has gotten his retreat to me so here is the turn.

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>


Orders:
France retreats A Burgundy to Marseilles.

Deadline:
The deadline for Fall 1904 is due on Friday Dec 5th at 7pm EST ( 11 pm GMT ).
Map and Dpy file are attached for your convenience.

[Reply]

DC 212 Spring 1904 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 28, 2008, 10:33 pm)
Folks,
Sorry for the slight delay in getting this out. My husband is military and is currently working 12 hour shifts and he had to work yesterday which in the US was Thanksgiving ( and his birthday ). So we did not celebrate yesterday, instead we celebrated tonight. I spent all night last night and all day today cooking a huge dinner and am totally wiped out. I only got 2 hours of sleep in the last 48 hours so I have just been laying out on the couch in my own little world. Thank my husband for reminding me to check my games =). And without futher ado......


Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>

Press:
German Press: "Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I attack."


Orders:

Austria:
A Albania - Greece
A Budapest - Serbia
F Greece - Aegean Sea
A Trieste - Venice
A Venice - Tuscany
A Vienna - Budapest

England:
F Belgium Hold
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Kiel Supports A Burgundy - Munich (*Cut*)
F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea
F North Sea Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
F Skagerrak Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark

France:
A Burgundy - Munich (*Dislodged*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
A North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)
F Piedmont Supports A Venice - Tuscany

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Munich Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy
A Ruhr - Burgundy

Italy:
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Greece - Aegean Sea
A Rome - Tunis (*Bounce*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Rome - Tunis

Russia:
F Armenia - Black Sea (*Fails*)
A Norway Supports F Sweden
A Rumania Supports F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec) (*Void*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Silesia - Berlin
F Sweden Supports A Norway
A Warsaw - Prussia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Constantinople - Ankara

Retreats and Deadline:
French A Burgundy can retreat to Marseilles or Gascony or Picardy.
The deadline for the retreat is Monday Dec 1st at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). But I will adjudicate as soon as I get the retreat. As soon as I receive the retreat I will send out the map and dpy file.

-Rachael

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Dc 212 Forgot the map yet again! - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 21, 2008, 6:02 pm)
Folks,
I am sooo sorry about this. I seem to forget to send out the map! Here it is along with the dpy file.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Winter 03 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 21, 2008, 5:56 pm)
Folks,
Thank you to everyone for getting their orders in on time! Here are the builds and disbands.

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>

Builds and Disbands:

Austria:
Build A Budapest

Germany:
Remove A Denmark

Russia:
Build A Warsaw


Deadline:
Folks the deadline is set for Friday November 28th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Sorry for the slightly long deadline but I have a busy week with Thanksgiving coming up!

-Rachael

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DC 212 Deadline Reminder - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 20, 2008, 1:53 pm)
Folks,
The Deadline is a little over 24 hours away and I only have 1 set of orders. If you do not have them in by the deadline I will NMR you.

-Rachael

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Dc 212 Forgot the map - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 17, 2008, 8:23 pm)
Folks,
Sorry about that. My kids have me pulling me hair out and I completely forgot the map and dpy file. So here it is. And just a little reminder.

1903 Winter Deadline is set for Friday Nov. 21st at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Remember Prelims are also welcome.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Fall 1903 Retreats - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 17, 2008, 8:18 pm)
Folks,

England retreats to Skagerrak and Italy retreats to Rome.

Winter 1903 Deadline is set for Friday November 21st at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ).

-Rachael

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Dc 212 Fall 1903 Results - davidellsworth   (Nov 16, 2008, 8:26 pm)
To all,

I have yet to really look at the results, and I will not likely get a chance until tomorrow, but I had a computer crash this weekend, and I am only just now getting back on line. So in advance let me appologize for my lack of communication this weekend. I had a lot of changes to address and I was not able to even view old mail! I am sorry.

DaveE


From: Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>
To: DC 212 Forum <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Jon Stern DC 212 Austria <jstern78(at)gmail.com>; Greg Neilsen DC 212 England <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>; DC 212 Forum <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Patrick Canning DC 212 France <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>; Former Trout DC 212 Germany <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>; David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>; Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:41:27 PM
Subject: Dc 212 Fall 1903 Results

Folks,
Another good season has come and gone. Everyone got their orders to me well ahead of schedule! Many thanks for that. Now onto our season.....

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>


Orders:

Austria:
F Greece Supports A Serbia - Albania
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

England:
F Belgium - Holland (*Bounce*)
F Clyde - North Atlantic Ocean
F Denmark Supports A Holland - Kiel (*Dislodged*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Holland - Kiel
F Norway - North Sea

France:
A Brest - North Africa
A Burgundy - Munich (*Bounce*)
F Marseilles - Piedmont
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Brest - North Africa
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Denmark
A Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Holland (*Bounce*)

Italy:
A Albania Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Disbanded*)
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*)

Russia:
F Armenia - Ankara (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Silesia - Munich (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg - Norway
F Sweden Supports A St Petersburg - Norway

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec) (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Ankara (*Bounce*)


Retreats:

I have taken the liberty and retreated England to Skagerrak. Greg if you would prefer to retreat off the board, just let me know.

Italian A Venice can retreat to Tuscany or Rome or Apulia.


The deadline for retreats is Monday November 17th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Maps and Dpy.File will be attached after the retreat moves.

-Rachael

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Dc 212 Fall 1903 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 16, 2008, 6:42 pm)
Folks,
Another good season has come and gone. Everyone got their orders to me well ahead of schedule! Many thanks for that. Now onto our season.....

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>


Orders:

Austria:
F Greece Supports A Serbia - Albania
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

England:
F Belgium - Holland (*Bounce*)
F Clyde - North Atlantic Ocean
F Denmark Supports A Holland - Kiel (*Dislodged*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Holland - Kiel
F Norway - North Sea

France:
A Brest - North Africa
A Burgundy - Munich (*Bounce*)
F Marseilles - Piedmont
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Brest - North Africa
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Denmark
A Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Holland (*Bounce*)

Italy:
A Albania Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Disbanded*)
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*)

Russia:
F Armenia - Ankara (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Silesia - Munich (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg - Norway
F Sweden Supports A St Petersburg - Norway

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec) (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Ankara (*Bounce*)


Retreats:

I have taken the liberty and retreated England to Skagerrak. Greg if you would prefer to retreat off the board, just let me know.

Italian A Venice can retreat to Tuscany or Rome or Apulia.


The deadline for retreats is Monday November 17th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Maps and Dpy.File will be attached after the retreat moves.

-Rachael

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Dc 212 Fall 1903 Results (dc212) davidellsworth Nov 16, 08:26 pm
To all,

I have yet to really look at the results, and I will not likely get a chance until tomorrow, but I had a computer crash this weekend, and I am only just now getting back on line. So in advance let me appologize for my lack of communication this weekend. I had a lot of changes to address and I was not able to even view old mail! I am sorry.

DaveE


From: Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com>
To: DC 212 Forum <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Jon Stern DC 212 Austria <jstern78(at)gmail.com>; Greg Neilsen DC 212 England <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>; DC 212 Forum <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Patrick Canning DC 212 France <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>; Former Trout DC 212 Germany <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>; David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>; Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:41:27 PM
Subject: Dc 212 Fall 1903 Results

Folks,
Another good season has come and gone. Everyone got their orders to me well ahead of schedule! Many thanks for that. Now onto our season.....

Players:

Austria: Jon Stern <jstern78(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia: David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>


Orders:

Austria:
F Greece Supports A Serbia - Albania
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

England:
F Belgium - Holland (*Bounce*)
F Clyde - North Atlantic Ocean
F Denmark Supports A Holland - Kiel (*Dislodged*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Holland - Kiel
F Norway - North Sea

France:
A Brest - North Africa
A Burgundy - Munich (*Bounce*)
F Marseilles - Piedmont
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Brest - North Africa
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Denmark
A Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Holland (*Bounce*)

Italy:
A Albania Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Disbanded*)
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*)

Russia:
F Armenia - Ankara (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Silesia - Munich (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg - Norway
F Sweden Supports A St Petersburg - Norway

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec) (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Ankara (*Bounce*)


Retreats:

I have taken the liberty and retreated England to Skagerrak. Greg if you would prefer to retreat off the board, just let me know.

Italian A Venice can retreat to Tuscany or Rome or Apulia.


The deadline for retreats is Monday November 17th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Maps and Dpy.File will be attached after the retreat moves.

-Rachael
DC 212 Deadline Reminder and Change - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 14, 2008, 11:28 pm)
Folks,
It has been brought to my attention that I said the adjudication was due on Sunday the 15th. Saturday is actually the 15th. What I meant to say is that the deadline is SUNDAY the 16th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Sorry about that. Make sure you get me your orders. I am still missing two sets of orders.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Welcome the New Turkey - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 08, 2008, 4:36 pm)
Folks,
We have a new Turkey joining us in our game. I know originally I had sent out an email asking if it was okay if my husband took the position but I had a player voice his dislike of the situation so my husband will not be joining us. Please instead welcome Andrew Ott to the game. Here is his email address drew3739o(at)yahoo.com.

So everyone has a chance to do some diplomacy with the new guy, our deadline is set for Sunday Nov 15th at 7pm EST ( 11 pm GMT ).

-Rachael

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DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 07, 2008, 11:52 pm)
Folks,
My husband has volunteered to take Turkey's spot. If anybody has the least problem with this I will find someone else to take the spot. He's GMed for me and we have played in the same game in the past, so I have a list of references to verify that there is no impropriety when we game together. If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Replacement player needed - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 07, 2008, 8:01 pm)
Rachael

I understand how annoying and disruptive it can be to a game to have a player drop out when
things seem to go wrong.

I'll float the position on DC for a replacement, so hopefully the delay is not too long.

Steve - Moderator of DC.


Stephen Lytton
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:51:51 -0800
From: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC 212 Replacement player needed
To: dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com; jstern78(at)gmail.com; yeeha77(at)yahoo.com; dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com; patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org; davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net; lin.charles(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com

Folks,
As of now the game is on hold. Charles our, turkey has decided to bow out because work has gotten crazy and he doesn't want to NMR again. So forget the deadline I set. As soon as we have a new player I'll give you all some time to do diplomacy with him and then I will set the deadline. So sorry guys.

-Rachael

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DC 212 Replacement player needed - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Nov 07, 2008, 7:52 pm)
Folks,
As of now the game is on hold. Charles our, turkey has decided to bow out because work has gotten crazy and he doesn't want to NMR again. So forget the deadline I set. As soon as we have a new player I'll give you all some time to do diplomacy with him and then I will set the deadline. So sorry guys.

-Rachael

[Reply]

DC 212 Replacement player needed (dc212) deathblade_penguin Nov 07, 08:01 pm
Rachael

I understand how annoying and disruptive it can be to a game to have a player drop out when
things seem to go wrong.

I'll float the position on DC for a replacement, so hopefully the delay is not too long.

Steve - Moderator of DC.


Stephen Lytton
Sponsor me for MOvember
http://au.movember.com/mospace/1701236






Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:51:51 -0800
From: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC 212 Replacement player needed
To: dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com; jstern78(at)gmail.com; yeeha77(at)yahoo.com; dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com; patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org; davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net; lin.charles(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com

Folks,
As of now the game is on hold. Charles our, turkey has decided to bow out because work has gotten crazy and he doesn't want to NMR again. So forget the deadline I set. As soon as we have a new player I'll give you all some time to do diplomacy with him and then I will set the deadline. So sorry guys.

-Rachael

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