| Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Spring 1869 -... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
- DUTCH NAVY JOINS ST. GEORGE IN HIS QUEST FOR DRAGONS IN MYTHICAL LAND OF OFF-THE-BOARD
- WESTERN CARRIBEAN SEA CLAIMS ANOTHER FLEET - RENAMED SEA OF THE DEAD
- AUSTRIANS FIND THE MOST SAVAGE PART OF AFRICA IS THE FOLKS IN THE ORANGE UNIFORMS
- CHINA PRESENTS RUSSIA WITH THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE
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Nope.. Still not getting any better at writing those.. *sigh*
The board stays awash with action in Spring 1869 as some trends continue unbroken and yet one or two small surprises find their way into the mix of things. Only two nations were untouched by either retreat or disband - China and the US. Retreats are required from Austria, France, Japan and Russia. We'll set the Summer 1869 deadline for Monday, February 25th (11:59 PM GMT).
Please just let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers folks!
Trout
Dip 1264 / DC110 Guns, Germs and Steel
An Imperial Variant Game Game Started: June 13, 2007
Current Turn: Spring 1869
Next Deadline: Summer 1869 Retreats
Monday, February 25th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Assembly of Nations
Austria: Mike Hoffman
mrh AT panix DOT com Brazil: Ted Morley
Ted DOT Morley AT SEN DOT CA DOT GOV Britain: Steve Lytton
Stevelytton AT hotmail DOT com China: Dave Watson
dipknight AT comcast DOT net Confederate States: Jim Atkins
savwa4 AT comcast DOT net France: Lee Taylor
leewarrentaylor AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk Holland: Rudi van Hal
rvhgames AT xs4all DOT nl Japan: Bret Pollack
bret_pollack AT hotmail DOT com Mexico: Randolph
ruffhaus8 AT aol DOT com Prussia: Shane Whatsit
shanefgtoledo AT yahoo DOT com Russia: Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Turkey: Jerry Todd
stgttodd AT mainecav DOT org United States: Rupert Alesbury
writetorupert AT gmail DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com Game Starting Map: http://www.diplom.org/Online/maps/imperial-small.gif Variant Description: http://www.diplom.org/Online/variants/imperial.html
CURRENT TURN:
SPRING 1869 ORDERS:
RUSSIA:
A Afganistan (afg) Supports A Karachi (krc) OK A Angora (ang) Supports A Tabrize (tbr) - Armenia (arm) OK A Bangalore (ban) Supports A Georgia (geo) - Tabrize (tbr) OK F Black Sea (bla) Supports F Constantinople (con) OK F Caspian Sea (cas) Convoys A Georgia (geo) - Tabrize (tbr) OK F Constantinople (con) Hold OK F Finland (fin)(nc) - Norway (nwy) [BOUNCE with NWY 1:1] A Georgia (geo) - Tabrize (tbr) OK A Irkutsk (irk) - Yakutsk (yak) OK A Karachi (krc) Supports A Kashmir (kas) - Rajputana (raj) VOID (No Such Order) A Krasnoyarsk (kra) - Irkutsk (irk) OK A Manchuria (mac) - Port Arthur (poa) OK A Warsaw (war) Supports A Prussia (pru) [CUT by GAL] A Prussia (pru) Supports A Warsaw (war) [DISLODGED by SIL 2:1] A Sakhurlin (sak) Supports A Vladivostok (vla) OK A Sevastopol (sev) Supports A Warsaw (war) OK F St Petersburg (stp)(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia (bot) OK A Tabrize (tbr) - Armenia (arm) OK A Vladivostok (vla) Supports A Inner Mongolia (img) - Manchuria (mac) [CUT by KAM] A Moscow (mos) Supports A Sevastopol (sev) OK
UNITED STATES:
F Kam - Vla [BOUNCE with VLA 1:2] F Wst SUPPORTS F EPa - Haw OK F Anc - NPa OK F Ore - WBa OK F SFo - WCo OK F Maz - GoC OK F EPa - Haw OK F PBa - CBa [DEFEATED by APA 2:1] F Sct - SPa [BOUNCE with SPA 1:1] F GoP - Hon [BOUNCE with HON 1:1] F Glp - PBa [BOUNCE with PBA 1:1] A Oax SUPPORTS A Mer - Gtm OK A Mer - Gtm OK A Mex - Mer OK A Sea - Van OK A Aus HOLDS OK A Ten - Ric OK F GoM SUPPORTS F Cub - WCa OK F Cub - WCa OK F Bah SUPPORTS F Tam - Cub OK F Tam - Cub OK F Atl - ESe [BOUNCE with ESE 1:1] F Sar - Hai [BOUNCE with HAI 1:2] F ESe - NAt [BOUNCE with NAT 1:1] F Che SUPPORTS F ESe - NAt OK F NSc SUPPORTS F ESe - NAt OK F Hud SUPPORTS F NAt - NPs OK F NAt - NPs [BOUNCE with DUB 2:2] F NPs - Nwg [BOUNCE with NWY 1:1]
AUSTRIA:
A Sil -> Pru OK A Ber S Sil -> Pru OK A Gal -> War [BOUNCE with WAR 1:2] F Crt -> Adr OK A Stu -> Met [BOUNCE with MET 1:1] A Ruh S Kie -> Hol OK A Kie -> Hol OK A Ven Hold OK A Vie -> Sil OK A Bud S Ven OK A Cai Hold OK F Cyp -> EME OK F Gre -> Ion OK F Aeg S Gre -> Ion OK A Rum -> Bos OK A Sof Hold OK A Dar -> Gal [BOUNCE with GLD 1:1; DISLODGED by KEN 2:1] A Aby S Dar -> Gal [DISLODGED by SOM 2:1] A Sud -> Asw OK
BRAZIL:
F A Pacific - C Basin OK F S pacific S F A Pacific - C Basin [CUT by SCT] F Honduras S F W Car [CUT by GOP] F E Car S F Haiti OK F Ne Trades - VRG OK F Haiti S F NE Trades - Haiti [CUT by SAR] F PRM - NE Trades OK F Rec S F PRM - NE Trades OK A RDJ s F Rec OK F OLI - URU OK F Co Argentina s F Drake OK f Drake S F A pacific - c Basin OK f Falklands s F Drake OK A lima S A BGT OK A BGT S A Pan OK A PAN blares loud rock music outside American embassy [REQUEST LINE FILLS UP WITH CHANTS FOR FREEBIRD] [GM NOTE: F WEST CARRIBEAN UNORDERED - HOLDS] [DISBANDED by CUB 2:1]
BRITAIN:
F Nth S HR - HOlland. VOID (No Such Order) Fleet Hong Kong supports Japanese fleet east china seas to south china seas [DISBANDED by CAN 2:1] Fleet Greenand supports f dublin - north east passage OK f dublin - north east passage [BOUNCE with NAT 2:2] f london - edi OK f den s f nth OK f nwy - nwg sea [BOUNCE with NPS 1:1] f bar s f greenland OK
CHINA:
F SHA - YELLOW [BOUNCE with ECS 1:1] A CAN - HK OK A FUC S A CAN - HK OK A ANN - TNK OK A PEK - MNC OK A KSG - BKH OK A KAS - KSG OK A DEL - KAS OK A BEN - TIB OK A WUH - PEK OK A TNK - CAN OK A IMG S A PEK - MNC OK [GM NOTE: A YUT UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
FRANCE:
a Rom to sal OK a Met support f hol [CUT by STU] a Okn hold OK a Mar to pie OK a Par support f bis to nan OK a Pie to rom OK f Trp to ion [DEFEATED BY GRE 2:1] f Can support f sar OK f Vrd support f mnv to mat OK f Bcu to sgr OK f Azo support f can OK f Tyn to ion [DEFEATED by GRE 2:1] f Sic hold OK f Mat to bcu OK f Aat support f bcu to sgr OK f Nan to rou OK f Sat support f mat to bcu OK f Hol support f nan to rou [DISLODGED by KIE 2:1] f Fij to eo.countercurrent OK f Bis to nan OK f Mnv to mat OK f Wme to tun OK f Gcs to ga.guinea OK
HOLLAND:
A Aden (ade) - Nejaaz (nej) OK F Antarctic Indian Ocean(ain) - Barrier Sea (brr) [BOUNCE with TAS 1:1] F Arabian Sea(ara) - Madras (mds) OK A Baghdad (bag) Hold OK F Bangkok (bnk)(wc) Hold OK F Bismark Sea (bis) - Philippine (phi) OK A Cambodia (cmb) Supports F Bangkok (bnk)(wc) OK F Cape Town (ctn) Supports F Goodhope (goo) OK F Celebes Sea (cls) Supports F Irian Java (ija) - Bismark Sea (bis) OK F Cochin (cch) Supports F Gulf of Siam (gos) - South China Sea (scs) OK A Congo (cng) - Okrana (okn) [BOUNCE with OKN 1:1] F Coral Sea (cor) Supports F Irian Java (ija) - Bismark Sea (bis) OK A Gall Land (gld) Supports A Kenya (ken) - Dar Es Sallam (dar) OK F Goodhope (goo) Supports F Antarctic Atlantic Ocean (aat) OK A Gujarat (guj), no move received [GM NOTE: HOLDS] OK F Gulf of Siam (gos) - South China Sea (scs) OK F Hadramaut (hdr)(nc) Supports A Baghdad (bag) OK F Horn of Africa (hoa) - Arabian Sea(ara) OK F Irian Java (ija) - Bismark Sea (bis) OK F Java Sea (jse) - Malaysia (mal) OK A Kenya (ken) - Dar Es Sallam (dar) OK F Luzon (luz) Supports F Bismark Sea (bis) - Philippine (phi) OK F Mindanao (mnd) - Luzon Sea (lus) OK F New Guinea (ngu) Supports F Irian Java (ija) - Bismark Sea (bis) OK F New Zealand (nzl) - Antarctic Pacific Ocean(apa) OK F Persian Gulf (pgu) Supports A Baghdad (bag) OK F Red Sea (rse) Supports F Somalia (som) - Abyssinia (aby) OK F Somalia (som) - Abyssinia (aby) OK F South Georgia Islands (sgr) Supports F Middle Atlantic (mat) - Brazil Current (bcu) [DISBANDED by BCU 2:1] F South West Pacific (swp) Supports F New Zealand (nzl) - Antarctic Pacific Ocean(apa) OK F Sunda (sun) Supports F Mindanao (mnd) - Luzon Sea (lus) OK F Tasman (tas) - Barrier Sea (brr) [BOUNCE with AIN 1:1]
JAPAN:
A Seo to Poa [BOUNCE with MNC 1:1] F WPa to Kur OK F ECS to Yel [BOUNCE with SHA 1:1] F Oki support F SCS to Yel VOID F Phi to ECS [BOUNCE with ECS 1:1; DISLODGED by BIS 2:1] F Luz to SCS [DEFEATED by GOS 2:1; DISBANDED by MND 2:1] F Izu to SoJ OK F Crl to Izu OK F Mhl to WPa OK F Haw support F Mhl to WPa [DISLODGED by EPA 2:1] F For support F Phi to ECS OK
SUMMER 1869 RETREATS:
Russian A Prussia may retreat to Liv or OTB
Austrian A Dar Es Salaam may retreat to Fzz, Sud or OTB
Austrian A Abyssinia may retreat to Sud or OTB
Brazilian F West Carribean is Automatically Disbanded
British F Hong Kong is Automatically Disbanded
French F Holland may retreat to Hel
Dutch F Saint Georges Island is Automatically Disbanded
Japanese F Phillipines may retreat to Crl or OTB
Japanese F Hawaii may retreat to Ccu, Kse or OTB
Japanese F Luzon Sea is Automatically Disbanded
Unit / Supply Center Breakdown
Russia
20 Supply Centers - Stp, Mos, War, Sev, Grg, Oms, Orn, Irk, The, Tsh
Khv, Pru, Krc, Bku, Ban, Con, Ang, Mnc, Vla, Sak
15 Armies - Vla, Afg, Poa, War, Tbr, Irk, Krc, Ban, Ang, Sak, [Pru], Sev,
Mos, Yak, Arm
5 Fleets - Bla, Con, Fin(nc), Bku(ec), Bot
United States
29 Supply Centers - Wdc, Nyo, Det, Sfo, Org, Sea, Neb, Kan, Vic, Alb
Ric, Van, Yuk, Anc, Che, Nme, Que, Nsc, Okl, Atl, Glp, Aus, Nol, Bha, Maz
Sct, Mex, Mer, Cub
6 Armies - Aus, Mer, Oax, Van, Gtm, Ric
23 Fleets - Kam, Bha, Glp, Pba, Sct, Nat, Che, Haw, Wca, Nol, Wst,
Gop, Sar, Hud, Nsc, Ese, Cub, Nps, Npa, Wba, Wco, Goc, Atl
Austria
19 Supply Centers - Vie, Bud, Crt, Ven, Ser, Bav, Sil, Sud, Ser, Ruh,
Cai, Kie, Ber, Rmn, Cre, Gre, Cyp, Sof, Aby
15 Armies - Stu, [Aby], [Dar], Hol, Ber, Cai, Ven, Pru, Sof, Asw, Gal, Bos, Ruh
Bud, Sil
4 Fleets - Eme, Aeg, Ion, Adr
Brazil
17 Supply Centers - Bra, Oli, Rec, Rdj, Prg, Brc, Uru, Lpa, Fal, Cyn,
Lim, Bgt, Prm, Vrg, Hon, Pan, Hai
4 Armies - Lim, Bgt, Pan, Rdj
12 Fleets - Hon(ec), Ecs, Fal, Spa, Rec, Cba, Dra, Hai, Coa, Vrg, Net, Uru
Britain
8 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Dub, Hgk, Nwy, Grn, Swe, Den
0 Armies -
7 Fleets - Nth, Nwy, Grn, Den, Bar, Edi, Dub
China
13 Supply Centers - Lch, Chk, Snk, Can, Ben, Brm, Yut, Kas, Rng, Del
Tnk, Sha, Pek
12 Armies - Pek, Tnk, Kas, Ksg, Tib, Nmg, Yut, Fuc, Mnc, Hgk, Bkh, Can
1 Fleet - Sha
France
23 Supply Centers - Nan, Mrs, Par, Crs, Mnv, Gcs, Sie, Ivc, Pie, Vlc
Vrd, Mrc, Tun, Cmn, Okn, Azo, Gib, Sal, Hol, Sic, Rom, Trp, Fij
6 Armies - Sal, Met, Okn, Pie, Par, Rom
17 Fleets - Trp, Can, Vrd, Sgr, Azo, Tyn, Sic, Bcu, Aat, Rou, Sat, [Hol], Eco,
Nan, Mat, Tun, Gog
Holland
31 Supply Centers - Ctn, Trn, Cey, Sum, Jav, Brn, Rho, Amn, Srw, Ngu
Mal, Ija, Bsw, Sey, Sgp, Mad, Bnk, Mld, Per, Qnl, Nsw, Mds, Cmb, Nze
Sgr, Cch, Luz, Mnd, Bor, Oma, Ade, Bag
7 Armies - Dar, Guj, Cmb, Gld, Bag, Cng, Nej
24 Fleets - Ain, Hdr(ec), Mds, Lus, Bnk(wc), Tas, Rse, Aby, Phi, Pgu,
Swp, Ara, Scs, Lus, Apa, Goo, Ctn, Cor, Ngu, Sun, Bis, Cls, Cch, Mal
Japan
11 Supply Centers - Oki, Kag, Edo, Sap, Fsn, Seo, Crl, For, Mhl, Poa
Haw
1 Army - Seo
9 Fleets - Oki, Izu, [Phi], For, [Haw], Wpa, Soj, Ecs, Kur
PRUSSIA - ELIMINATED 1865
CONFEDERATE STATES - ELIMINATED 1867
MEXICO - ELIMINATED 1868
TURKEY - ELIMINATED 1868
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 1869 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.[Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 -... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
- AUSTRIAN ARMY ISSUES STANDARD ISSUE FEZZ GEAR FOR SOJURN IN FEZZ
- FRANCE THINKS TIME SPENT IN HELGOLAND BITES
- RUSSIA LIVES AND LETS DIE IN LIVONIA
- JAPAN DISCOVERS JOHN DENVER IN SWEET CAROLINE ISLANDS
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Heya Empire Seekers,
Think I covered most of the retreats with the headlines. Austria also retreats to Sudan, Japans second retreat is to the Kirbati Sea. On top of the retreats though, we have two pieces of press and an end-game proposal. The press I'll send in seperate emails following this one. The proposal is for a joint Dutch / US draw. We'll have a vote on it and set the deadline for votes with the Fall orders. Not voting will count as a nay and scuttle the proposal.
Fall orders and Dutch / US draw vote deadline will be set for Saturday, March 1st (11:59 PM GMT). As always, please just let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers!
Trout
Dip 1264 / DC110 Guns, Germs and Steel
An Imperial Variant Game Game Started: June 13, 2007
Current Turn: Summer 1869
Next Deadline: Fall 1869 Orders
Saturday, March 1st (11:59 PM GMT)
The Assembly of Nations
Austria: Mike Hoffman
mrh AT panix DOT com Brazil: Ted Morley
Ted DOT Morley AT SEN DOT CA DOT GOV Britain: Steve Lytton
Stevelytton AT hotmail DOT com China: Dave Watson
dipknight AT comcast DOT net Confederate States: Jim Atkins
savwa4 AT comcast DOT net France: Lee Taylor
leewarrentaylor AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk Holland: Rudi van Hal
rvhgames AT xs4all DOT nl Japan: Bret Pollack
bret_pollack AT hotmail DOT com Mexico: Randolph
ruffhaus8 AT aol DOT com Prussia: Shane Whatsit
shanefgtoledo AT yahoo DOT com Russia: Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Turkey: Jerry Todd
stgttodd AT mainecav DOT org United States: Rupert Alesbury
writetorupert AT gmail DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com Game Starting Map: http://www.diplom.org/Online/maps/imperial-small.gif Variant Description: http://www.diplom.org/Online/variants/imperial.html
SUMMER 1869 RETREATS: Russian A Prussia retreats to Livonia Austrian A Dar Es Salaam retreats to Fezz Austrian A Abyssinia retreats to Sudan Brazilian F West Carribean is Automatically Disbanded British F Hong Kong is Automatically Disbanded French F Holland retreats to Helgoland Bight Dutch F Saint Georges Island is Automatically Disbanded Japanese F Phillipines retreats to Caroline Islands Japanese F Hawaii retreats to Kirbati Sea Japanese F Luzon Sea is Automatically Disbanded
Unit / Supply Center Breakdown
Russia 20 Supply Centers - Stp, Mos, War, Sev, Grg, Oms, Orn, Irk, The, Tsh Khv, Pru, Krc, Bku, Ban, Con, Ang, Mnc, Vla, Sak 15 Armies - Vla, Afg, Poa, War, Tbr, Irk, Krc, Ban, Ang, Sak, [Pru], Sev, Mos, Yak, Arm 5 Fleets - Bla, Con, Fin(nc), Bku(ec), Bot
United States 29 Supply Centers - Wdc, Nyo, Det, Sfo, Org, Sea, Neb, Kan, Vic, Alb Ric, Van, Yuk, Anc, Che, Nme, Que, Nsc, Okl, Atl, Glp, Aus, Nol, Bha, Maz Sct, Mex, Mer, Cub 6 Armies - Aus, Mer, Oax, Van, Gtm, Ric 23 Fleets - Kam, Bha, Glp, Pba, Sct, Nat, Che, Haw, Wca, Nol, Wst, Gop, Sar, Hud, Nsc, Ese, Cub, Nps, Npa, Wba, Wco, Goc, Atl
Austria 19 Supply Centers - Vie, Bud, Crt, Ven, Ser, Bav, Sil, Sud, Ser, Ruh, Cai, Kie, Ber, Rmn, Cre, Gre, Cyp, Sof, Aby 15 Armies - Stu, Sud, Fzz, Hol, Ber, Cai, Ven, Pru, Sof, Asw, Gal, Bos, Ruh Bud, Sil 4 Fleets - Eme, Aeg, Ion, Adr
Brazil 17 Supply Centers - Bra, Oli, Rec, Rdj, Prg, Brc, Uru, Lpa, Fal, Cyn, Lim, Bgt, Prm, Vrg, Hon, Pan, Hai 4 Armies - Lim, Bgt, Pan, Rdj 12 Fleets - Hon(ec), Ecs, Fal, Spa, Rec, Cba, Dra, Hai, Coa, Vrg, Net, Uru
Britain 8 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Dub, Hgk, Nwy, Grn, Swe, Den 0 Armies - 7 Fleets - Nth, Nwy, Grn, Den, Bar, Edi, Dub
China 13 Supply Centers - Lch, Chk, Snk, Can, Ben, Brm, Yut, Kas, Rng, Del Tnk, Sha, Pek 12 Armies - Pek, Tnk, Kas, Ksg, Tib, Nmg, Yut, Fuc, Mnc, Hgk, Bkh, Can 1 Fleet - Sha
France 23 Supply Centers - Nan, Mrs, Par, Crs, Mnv, Gcs, Sie, Ivc, Pie, Vlc Vrd, Mrc, Tun, Cmn, Okn, Azo, Gib, Sal, Hol, Sic, Rom, Trp, Fij 6 Armies - Sal, Met, Okn, Pie, Par, Rom 17 Fleets - Trp, Can, Vrd, Sgr, Azo, Tyn, Sic, Bcu, Aat, Rou, Sat, [Hol], Eco, Nan, Mat, Tun, Gog
Holland 31 Supply Centers - Ctn, Trn, Cey, Sum, Jav, Brn, Rho, Amn, Srw, Ngu Mal, Ija, Bsw, Sey, Sgp, Mad, Bnk, Mld, Per, Qnl, Nsw, Mds, Cmb, Nze Sgr, Cch, Luz, Mnd, Bor, Oma, Ade, Bag 7 Armies - Dar, Guj, Cmb, Gld, Bag, Cng, Nej 24 Fleets - Ain, Hdr(ec), Mds, Lus, Bnk(wc), Tas, Rse, Aby, Phi, Pgu, Swp, Ara, Scs, Lus, Apa, Goo, Ctn, Cor, Ngu, Sun, Bis, Cls, Cch, Mal
Japan 11 Supply Centers - Oki, Kag, Edo, Sap, Fsn, Seo, Crl, For, Mhl, Poa Haw 1 Army - Seo 9 Fleets - Oki, Izu, Crl, For, Kse, Wpa, Soj, Ecs, Kur
PRUSSIA - ELIMINATED 1865
CONFEDERATE STATES - ELIMINATED 1867
MEXICO - ELIMINATED 1868
TURKEY - ELIMINATED 1868
NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1869 ORDERS DUE SATURDAY, MARCH 1ST (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - The Indian Pr... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
The Indian Proclamation
Hereby we, William III of Orange, declare the Indian Ocean to be Dutch national waters. As a result of this, maritime law in the Indian Ocean will be suspended and Dutch National law will hold. Trading vessels are welcome in the Indian Ocean, but are required to acquire a permit at the Port Authorities in Kaapstad, Perth, Ceylon, Aden or Batavia. Military vessels are only allowed to enter the Indian Ocean when accompanied by vessels of the Royal Dutch Navy
Thus we have declared on July 1st 1869 in Batavia,
William III
King of Holland
Emperor of the Great Dutch Empire
Prince of Orange
Count of Nassau[Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
and I for one hopes that Russia pays back China for every drop of Britsh blood that was shed.
Actually I echo Russia's comments here.
I allowed myself to be mislead by Holland 3 times (shame on me, I know)... and France once and Usa twice (man am i a sucker or what)
but the time is NOW to stop these maniacs.
Britain has been fighting the USA for years now and whilst France is determine to get to my little island, they are ignoring the bigger threat.
I pledge to fight USA and HOlland.
and if France wont help us, then i say Death to France as well.
let's us form a league to stop them. As one of my absolute favourite Rimmer quotes (from red dwarf) is the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabiliation in Useful Society.
But i digress.
Comrade, Russia - the British Empire stands with you. Tell us how we may assist.
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
Listen now! New music from the Rogue Traders.[Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Considering Holland is chasing me all over Africa, count me in!
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Morley, Ted <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov ([email]Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov[/email])> wrote:
Gentlemen -- Brazil stands ready to join amrs against this sea of troubles and by opposing end them...Of course, I have been preaching this crusade since before the first japan abdicated to avoid this problem.
Edward Morley
Transportation Consultant
Senate Republican Office of Policy
1020 N Street #248
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 651-1773
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[quote:e97a8cea30]
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lytton [mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:16 AM
To: Former Trout; Cat23 1200 List; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Cc: Bret Pollack; David E Watson; Jerry Todd; Jim Atkins; Lee Taylor; Mike Hoffman; Randolph; Rob Ackerley; Rob Bristol; Rob Bristol; Rudi Van Hal; Rupert Armstrong; Suzanne Castagne; Ted Morley; Morley, Ted
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
and I for one hopes that Russia pays back China for every drop of Britsh blood that was shed.
Actually I echo Russia's comments here.
I allowed myself to be mislead by Holland 3 times (shame on me, I know)... and France once and Usa twice (man am i a sucker or what)
but the time is NOW to stop these maniacs.
Britain has been fighting the USA for years now and whilst France is determine to get to my little island, they are ignoring the bigger threat.
I pledge to fight USA and HOlland.
and if France wont help us, then i say Death to France as well.
let's us form a league to stop them. As one of my absolute favourite Rimmer quotes (from red dwarf) is the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabiliation in Useful Society.
But i digress.
Comrade, Russia - the British Empire stands with you. Tell us how we may assist.
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com
[quote:e97a8cea30] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com ([email]Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com[/email]); DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com ([email]bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dipknight(at)comcast.net ([email]dipknight(at)comcast.net[/email]); sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email]); savwa4(at)comcast.net ([email]savwa4(at)comcast.net[/email]); leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email]); ruffhaus8(at)aol.com ([email]ruffhaus8(at)aol.com[/email]); rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]); rBristol(at)cargojet.com ([email]rBristol(at)cargojet.com[/email]); rbristol(at)cogeco.ca ([email]rbristol(at)cogeco.ca[/email]); rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl ([email]rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl[/email]); writetorupert(at)gmail.com ([email]writetorupert(at)gmail.com[/email]); stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]); sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr ([email]sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr[/email]); ee_morley(at)hotmail.com ([email]ee_morley(at)hotmail.com[/email]); Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov ([email]Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov[/email])
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
Listen now! New music from the Rogue Traders. [/quote:e97a8cea30]
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Um Ted, or is it Ed?
You do know that Hamlet was talking about suicide in his To Be Or Not To Be soliloguy right?
The script reads "or by opposing , end them".
Just confused as to exactly what your saying here...
Dave
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From: "Morley, Ted" <Ted.Morley(at)SEN.CA.GOV>
.hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } Gentlemen -- Brazil stands ready to join amrs against this sea of troubles and by opposing end them...Of course, I have been preaching this crusade since before the first japan abdicated to avoid this problem.
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[quote:d2d3b153b4]
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lytton [mailto:stevelytton(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:16 AM
To: Former Trout; Cat23 1200 List; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: Bret Pollack; David E Watson; Jerry Todd; Jim Atkins; Lee Taylor; Mike Hoffman; Randolph; Rob Ackerley; Rob Bristol; Rob Bristol; Rudi Van Hal; Rupert Armstrong; Suzanne Castagne; Ted Morley; Morley, Ted
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
and I for one hopes that Russia pays back China for every drop of Britsh blood that was shed.
Actually I echo Russia's comments here.
I allowed myself to be mislead by Holland 3 times (shame on me, I know)... and France once and Usa twice (man am i a sucker or what)
but the time is NOW to stop these maniacs.
Britai n has been fighting the USA for years now and whilst France is determine to get to my little island, they are ignoring the bigger threat.
I pledge to fight USA and HOlland.
and if France wont help us, then i say Death to France as well.
let's us form a league to stop them. As one of my absolute favourite Rimmer quotes (from red dwarf) is the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabiliation in Useful Society.
But i digress.
Comrade, Russia - the British Empire stands with you. Tell us how we may assist.
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com
[quote:d2d3b153b4] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
Listen now! New music from the Rogue Traders. [/quote:d2d3b153b4][/quote:d2d3b153b4][Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
You made your bed now lie in it. I was content to fight Hollands expansion into the Pacific but you and china could not see your way clear of leaving my mainland holdings alone to allow me some strength for the fight. Brazil and the US then go off ans start their own war with no eye to any other goal. I am simply tired of people blowing smoke and then not sticking into what they say they will do. At least Holland has been fairly straight forward. when He stabbed me, he never continued along a simple line of its for the good of the game or I need to do that!!. You on the other had made simple grab at four centers with out the consideration of any consequences. Deal with it!!
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
None of it matters right now. USA and Holland WILL WIN THE GAME IF EVERY LAST ONE OF US REMAINING CANNOT BAND TOGETHER AND COUNTER THEM - PERIOD.
There is no way any of us secondary or lesser powers will grow if we do not band together. That includes me forgiving Austria and China. That includes Japan not turning in the towel. It includes peace and cooperation between England and France. That includes France taking his star spangled skirt and danish halter top off. That includes Austria halting actions against France and Russia. It includes France and Japan start working with Brazil. It means China stops attacking Russia and stops being passive to the Holland incursions. If even one of these things DOES NOT HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY then those of us mentioned above should vote a resounding yes to the proposed USA/Holland Joint Victory.
If WE ALL WANT to stop the super powers, then the time is now - RIGHT NOW. Cast the horse shit, double talk, fear, doubt, distrust, revenge and what ever else aside. Band together and make one global concerted effort to counter them.
Feel free to commit yourself below:
Russia are you? Absolutely.
China are you in?
Austria are you in?
England are you in?
France are you in?
Japan are you in?
Brazil are you in?
It starts with small gains which are still within our collective grasp. But they won't be for much longer.
What shall our DJ/GM instruct the band to play? A battle March? Or the Beagal?
Rob of Russia - Willing to forego revenge for the collective good. Who will stand with me?
----- Original Message ----
From: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <ted.morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:37:46 PM
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} You made your bed now lie in it. I was content to fight Hollands expansion into the Pacific but you and china could not see your way clear of leaving my mainland holdings alone to allow me some strength for the fight. Brazil and the US then go off ans start their own war with no eye to any other goal. I am simply tired of people blowing smoke and then not sticking into what they say they will do. At least Holland has been fairly straight forward. when He stabbed me, he never continued along a simple line of its for the good of the game or I need to do that!!. You on the other had made simple grab at four centers with out the consideration of any consequences. Deal with it!!
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Britain is IN.
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:16:36 -0800
From: rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
To: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com; cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
CC: dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rbristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; ted.morley(at)sen.ca.gov
.ExternalClass DIV {;} Which came first the chicken or the egg?
None of it matters right now. USA and Holland WILL WIN THE GAME IF EVERY LAST ONE OF US REMAINING CANNOT BAND TOGETHER AND COUNTER THEM - PERIOD.
There is no way any of us secondary or lesser powers will grow if we do not band together. That includes me forgiving Austria and China. That includes Japan not turning in the towel. It includes peace and cooperation between England and France. That includes France taking his star spangled skirt and danish halter top off. That includes Austria halting actions against France and Russia. It includes France and Japan start working with Brazil. It means China stops attacking Russia and stops being passive to the Holland incursions. If even one of these things DOES NOT HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY then those of us mentioned above should vote a resounding yes to the proposed USA/Holland Joint Victory.
If WE ALL WANT to stop the super powers, then the time is now - RIGHT NOW. Cast the horse shit, double talk, fear, doubt, distrust, revenge and what ever else aside. Band together and make one global concerted effort to counter them.
Feel free to commit yourself below:
Russia are you? Absolutely.
China are you in?
Austria are you in?
England are you in?
France are you in?
Japan are you in?
Brazil are you in?
It starts with small gains which are still within our collective grasp. But they won't be for much longer.
What shall our DJ/GM instruct the band to play? A battle March? Or the Beagal?
Rob of Russia - Willing to forego revenge for the collective good. Who will stand with me?
----- Original Message ----
From: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <ted.morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:37:46 PM
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} You made your bed now lie in it. I was content to fight Hollands expansion into the Pacific but you and china could not see your way clear of leaving my mainland holdings alone to allow me some strength for the fight. Brazil and the US then go off ans start their own war with no eye to any other goal. I am simply tired of people blowing smoke and then not sticking into what they say they will do. At least Holland has been fairly straight forward. when He stabbed me, he never continued along a simple line of its for the good of the game or I need to do that!!. You on the other had made simple grab at four centers with out the consideration of any consequences. Deal with it!!
[quote:4dbb989563]Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Bret,
Waitaminnut...don't lump me in with Russia. China also takes pride in the fact that it was always straight with Japan. ???
When you came on the scene Bret, China/Japan was at war...and you continued in that vein.
That was cool...I still said "welcome to the game...and good luck! "
Then finally you asked me when you were losing ground to allow you the mainland holdings to help you fight versus Holland. Don't you remember what happened? I said you had a couple of disbands coming so if you disbanded the mainland armies (which you did not need for a naval war), I would comply.
You did the exact opposite...so I continued to capture Chinas birthrights.
Don't transfer your hatred at Russia onto China.
Russia evil.
China good.
No lead was used in the preparing of this message.
Dave - China
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From: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>
.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } You made your bed now lie in it. I was content to fight Hollands expansion into the Pacific but you and china could not see your way clear of leaving my mainland holdings alone to allow me some strength for the fight. Brazil and the US then go off ans start their own war with no eye to any other goal. I am simply tired of people blowing smoke and then not sticking into what they say they will do. At least Holland has been fairly straight forward. when He stabbed me, he never continued along a simple line of its for the good of the game or I need to do that!!. You on the other had made simple grab at four centers with out the consideration of any consequences. Deal with it!!
[quote:dbb219db9c] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
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Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Firstly Bret and Dave
Bret, as Dave pointed out, the taking of your mainland holdings, were a direct result of YOUR CHOICE to not disband the mainland armies. Did I misrepresent at times? Yes. But both China and I were clear in requirement for you to disband your mainland armies. I can dig up the archives and show you and everyone else how our diplomatic efforts progressed and how you didn't start losing centers until you CHOSE to leave your armies in play.
Now regarding the rhetoric and blah blah blah so clearly laid out by Rudi...
The perspective is skewed and we will probably never come to agreement on this issue but if you read my call to arms, it very specifically indicated that peace and trust would have to garnered immediately. I also included in that peace that Russia would have to get over the recent turn of China, the continued pressure from Austria and that other parties would have to manage the same.
Regarding the 40%, it is not so much the overall percentage, but if you break it down into sphere of influence compared to the ability to counter, you see that USA is well on it's way to increasing in number. In fact once over the minor central america hurdle, it will overtake Brazil easily propelling him towards a solo. Who can counter that? Brazil is surely outmatch if the situation remains as it is. If France were to help Brazil, they have an uphill battle that will eventually stall and push back USA. Add to that fray some British pressure and USA may be pushed back slightly quicker. In order for France to turn he needs peace with Austria. In order for England to stay the course he needs Russia to support, not steal, scandinavian centers.
Now Holland - who will oppose him? I have tried none stop since i came into this game to rally the troops against Holland. I believe USA, Brazil, Japan, France and China can testify to that fact. The few powers that could have started making an impact - China, France and Japan - with the exception of Japan had no interest in doing anything to to counter Hollands unchecked growth. Japan stood up to the call though unfortunately, as outlined above, it didn't quite pan out as we had all hoped. I bear some of that responsibility, without question. France What is your excuse? Cooperation between you and Brazil would have had you owning south africa by now. China what is your excuse? Cooperation with me would have you holding all of India by now. The by products of each of those attacks would have provided opportunities for Japan and Brazil in the south pacific, Austria and Russia in the mid east and who knows where those would have lead too?
So my battle cry is not one of trickery, but one to wake up the masses and call for a collective realization that the lesser powers are right now faced with two choices. 1) Set aside ALL differences, band together and start to picking away at Holland and the USA. 2)We each continue on the path we are on right now and effectively hand the game to Holland and the USA, and which ever other lesser power chooses to wear their skirt (France currently sports that).
I, Russia, am willing to set aside past differences, effectively becoming a supporting figure - even to the point of offering my SC's to aid those that will benefit from the additional unit. My NW fleets are at English displosal. I offered China control of the Pacific build ports and will table that offer again. I have offered China support in India and will also table that again. Japan still has 3 SC on mainland Asia, and I see no reason to change that. I will make the effort, the sacrifice and whatever else to make this work.
But I stress the time has to be now and we, the lesser powers, all need to be in agreement. France and Brazil in the south Atlantic can make strides. England and France can make strides in the north Atlantic. Austria and Russia can lock down the mideast. Russia and China can over run India. China, Japan and Brazil can make progress in the Indo islands. China, Russia and Japan can hold back USA in the north and mid pacific. If any one of these areas is not cooperating, the whole operation is pointless.
Together we can pick away at Holland and USA until they crack. Independantly we will, as we have been, lose ground until it is irreversible.
Rob.
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From: "dipknight(at)comcast.net" <dipknight(at)comcast.net>
To: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:23:25 AM
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
Bret,
Waitaminnut...don't lump me in with Russia. China also takes pride in the fact that it was always straight with Japan. ???
When you came on the scene Bret, China/Japan was at war...and you continued in that vein.
That was cool...I still said "welcome to the game...and good luck!"
Then finally you asked me when you were losing ground to allow you the mainland holdings to help you fight versus Holland. Don't you remember what happened? I said you had a couple of disbands coming so if you disbanded the mainland armies (which you did not need for a naval war), I would comply.
You did the exact opposite...so I continued to capture Chinas birthrights.
Don't transfer your hatred at Russia onto China.
Russia evil.
China good.
No lead was used in the preparing of this message.
Dave - China
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>
.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} You made your bed now lie in it. I was content to fight Hollands expansion into the Pacific but you and china could not see your way clear of leaving my mainland holdings alone to allow me some strength for the fight. Brazil and the US then go off ans start their own war with no eye to any other goal. I am simply tired of people blowing smoke and then not sticking into what they say they will do. At least Holland has been fairly straight forward. when He stabbed me, he never continued along a simple line of its for the good of the game or I need to do that!!. You on the other had made simple grab at four centers with out the consideration of any consequences. Deal with it!!
[quote:0f639a145e] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
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Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Firstly Bret and Dave
Bret, as Dave pointed out, the taking of your mainland holdings, were a direct result of YOUR CHOICE to not disband the mainland armies. Did I misrepresent at times? Yes. But both China and I were clear in requirement for you to disband your mainland armies. I can dig up the archives and show you and everyone else how our diplomatic efforts progressed and how you didn't start losing centers until you CHOSE to leave your armies in play.
Now regarding the rhetoric and blah blah blah so clearly laid out by Rudi...
The perspective is skewed and we will probably never come to agreement on this issue but if you read my call to arms, it very specifically indicated that peace and trust would have to garnered immediately. I also included in that peace that Russia would have to get over the recent turn of China, the continued pressure from Austria and that other parties would have to manage the same.
Regarding the 40%, it is not so much the overall percentage, but if you break it down into sphere of influence compared to the ability to counter, you see that USA is well on it's way to increasing in number. In fact once over the minor central america hurdle, it will overtake Brazil easily propelling him towards a solo. Who can counter that? Brazil is surely outmatch if the situation remains as it is. If France were to help Brazil, they have an uphill battle that will eventually stall and push back USA. Add to that fray some British pressure and USA may be pushed back slightly quicker. In order for France to turn he needs peace with Austria. In order for England to stay the course he needs Russia to support, not steal, scandinavian centers.
Now Holland - who will oppose him? I have tried none stop since i came into this game to rally the troops against Holland. I believe USA, Brazil, Japan, France and China can testify to that fact. The few powers that could have started making an impact - China, France and Japan - with the exception of Japan had no interest in doing anything to to counter Hollands unchecked growth. Japan stood up to the call though unfortunately, as outlined above, it didn't quite pan out as we had all hoped. I bear some of that responsibility, without question. France What is your excuse? Cooperation between you and Brazil would have had you owning south africa by now. China what is your excuse? Cooperation with me would have you holding all of India by now. The by products of each of those attacks would have provided opportunities for Japan and Brazil in the south pacific, Austria and Russia in the mid east and who knows where those would have lead too?
So my battle cry is not one of trickery, but one to wake up the masses and call for a collective realization that the lesser powers are right now faced with two choices. 1) Set aside ALL differences, band together and start to picking away at Holland and the USA. 2)We each continue on the path we are on right now and effectively hand the game to Holland and the USA, and which ever other lesser power chooses to wear their skirt (France currently sports that).
I, Russia, am willing to set aside past differences, effectively becoming a supporting figure - even to the point of offering my SC's to aid those that will benefit from the additional unit. My NW fleets are at English displosal. I offered China control of the Pacific build ports and will table that offer again. I have offered China support in India and will also table that again. Japan still has 3 SC on mainland Asia, and I see no reason to change that. I will make the effort, the sacrifice and whatever else to make this work.
But I stress the time has to be now and we, the lesser powers, all need to be in agreement. France and Brazil in the south Atlantic can make strides. England and France can make strides in the north Atlantic. Austria and Russia can lock down the mideast. Russia and China can over run India. China, Japan and Brazil can make progress in the Indo islands. China, Russia and Japan can hold back USA in the north and mid pacific. If any one of these areas is not cooperating, the whole operation is pointless.
Together we can pick away at Holland and USA until they crack. Independantly we will, as we have been, lose ground until it is irreversible.
Rob.
----- Original Message ----
From: "dipknight(at)comcast.net" <dipknight(at)comcast.net>
To: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <ted.morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:23:25 AM
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
Bret,
Waitaminnut...don't lump me in with Russia. China also takes pride in the fact that it was always straight with Japan. ???
When you came on the scene Bret, China/Japan was at war...and you continued in that vein.
That was cool...I still said "welcome to the game...and good luck!"
Then finally you asked me when you were losing ground to allow you the mainland holdings to help you fight versus Holland. Don't you remember what happened? I said you had a couple of disbands coming so if you disbanded the mainland armies (which you did not need for a naval war), I would comply.
You did the exact opposite...so I continued to capture Chinas birthrights.
Don't transfer your hatred at Russia onto China.
Russia evil.
China good.
No lead was used in the preparing of this message.
Dave - China
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>
.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} You made your bed now lie in it. I was content to fight Hollands expansion into the Pacific but you and china could not see your way clear of leaving my mainland holdings alone to allow me some strength for the fight. Brazil and the US then go off ans start their own war with no eye to any other goal. I am simply tired of people blowing smoke and then not sticking into what they say they will do. At least Holland has been fairly straight forward. when He stabbed me, he never continued along a simple line of its for the good of the game or I need to do that!!. You on the other had made simple grab at four centers with out the consideration of any consequences. Deal with it!!
[quote:251f7fb39c] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:37 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
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Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean. Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast. And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan. The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England. And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria, England, France, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA. No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China. Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia.
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
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said the turkey before Christmas...
Hey - don't drag me into this!
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| Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hitting the nail on the head...
Any way you do the math, if the regional powers hope to fight colonialism, they need to band together and throw the bums out. Does that mean they have to overlook their own petty regional squabbles? Absolutely.
I, Russia, am willing to be part of that "Absolutely"
----- Original Message ----
From: "Morley, Ted" <Ted.Morley(at)SEN.CA.GOV>
To: Rudi van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Rob Bristol <rBristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:44:45 AM
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
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Hmmm. I may be a little slow but I think we've seen this end game before. What is it that they say about those who don't remember their history?
I do not think it is overstating to say that the complete domination of 40% of the board by two powers with absolutely no credible challengers is the real issue here and I think it is pretty clear what the result will be. There are only two geopolitical players left on the board and a bunch of regional players with virtually no ability to act globally.
Seems to me that rather than cold war rhetoric as peddled by Rudi, what we should really be getting back to is a study of imperialism. Any study of same would conclude that despite controlling less than 30-40% of the globe, the European empires were able to set the agenda for the world for several centuries AND that the inheritor of that mantle, the USA still, two centuries later is still in command of a large swath of the globe despite having central command of less than 10%.
Any way you do the math, if the regional powers hope to fight colonialism, they need to band together and throw the bums out. Does that mean they have to overlook their own petty regional squabbles? Absolutely.
TM
Edward Morley
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Senate Republican Office of Policy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rudi van Hal [mailto:rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:39 PM
To: 'Former Trout'; 'Cat23 1200 List'; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: 'Bret Pollack'; 'David E Watson'; 'Jerry Todd'; 'Jim Atkins'; 'Lee Taylor'; 'Mike Hoffman'; 'Randolph'; 'Rob Ackerley'; 'Rob Bristol'; 'Rob Bristol'; 'Rudi Van Hal'; 'Rupert Armstrong'; 'Steve Lytton'; 'Suzanne Castagne'; 'Ted Morley'; Morley, Ted
Subject: RE: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
Rhetoric: the study of writing or speaking as a means of communication or persuasion
Russia calls for a holy crusade against the USA/Dutch world domination. It is no use fighting rhetoric with rhetoric, so let’s focus on the facts instead.
[list=1:522929ea86] [*:522929ea86]USA and Holland combine for 60 centers. Even with some gains this year, they will below 40% of the total of 175 centers. World Domination is accomplished these days by controlling less than half the world it seems. [*:522929ea86]Which powers have a significant border with the USA (a) and Holland (b) and neither (c) [list=1:522929ea86] [*:522929ea86]Powers which could fight the USA [/list:522929ea86][/list:522929ea86]
i. Britain (8 centers)
ii. Brazil (17 centers)
iii. France (23 centers)
iv. Japan (11 centers) [list=1:522929ea86] [list=1:522929ea86] [*:522929ea86]Powers which could fight Holland [/list:522929ea86][/list:522929ea86]
i. China (13 centers)
ii. France (23 centers)
iii. Japan (11 centers) [list=1:522929ea86] [list=1:522929ea86] [*:522929ea86]Powers with no significant border with either Holland or the USA [/list:522929ea86][/list:522929ea86]
i. Austria (19 centers)
ii. Russia (20 centers)
So Russia calls upon its neighbours to prevent the USA/Holland World Domination without contributing to it (due to lack of opportunities).
Now let’s look at the powers that can fight the Gruesome Twosome:
Britain:
Britain is already at war with the USA and can’t attack Holland (been there, done that I guess).
Full commitment against the USA would leave Scandinavia vulnerable. Who could benefit from this? ...... Russia !
Brazil:
Brazil is already at war with the USA and has virtually no border with Holland . Not much would change for Brazil
China:
China can turn on Holland but will have to pull units from his northern borders to do so. This would leave his home centers vulnerable. Who could benefit? …… Russia !
France:
France has a significant border with the USA and a smaller one with Holland . In order to follow Russia ’s suggestions, France has to commit all its resources to fight the USA and Holland on 2 fronts.
This would put the European centers at risk. Who could benefit from that? ….. Austria
Japan:
Wait a sec, Wasn’t Japan until recently not ALL OUT committed against Holland ? What happened? Does anyone recall? I do know that Russia currently holds several centers that were until recently controlled by Japan .
So a summary of facts:
n Russia calls for an all out fight against powers that control less than 40% of the world.
n Russia and Austria can’t participate in that fight
n Russia and Austria are the powers in the position to benefit from this crusade
I’m not calling upon anyone to do anything. I’m just presenting facts and leave it to people to draw their conclusions.
On behalf of His Royal Majesty King William III
Rudi
First Secretary
From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 04:56
To: Cat23 1200 List; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Cc: Bret Pollack; David E Watson; Jerry Todd; Jim Atkins; Lee Taylor; Mike Hoffman; Randolph; Rob Ackerley; Rob Bristol; Rob Bristol; Rudi Van Hal; Rupert Armstrong; Steve Lytton; Suzanne Castagne; Ted Morley; Ted Morley
Subject: Guns, Germs and steel 1264 / DC110 - Summer 1869 Russian Press
Cast this game to the turf. It's over.
Holland has complete and utter control of the Indian Ocean . Gaining control in Africa and the Mideast . And being given gifts in the south Pacific by Japan . The powers that could prevent his advance have chose instead to bicker and stab amongst themselves turning a blind eye to Hollands unchecked growth.
The USA has exploded recently. He currently has NO significant threat to him. No vulnerable front and it is only a mater of time before he cracks Brazil and England . And he will continue to pick up gains as Japan collapses.
Who will turn and stop them? Who will stop bickering and stabbing and make a global concerted effort to stop them? Anyone? It would take all of the lesser powers - by name: Austria , England , France , China , Russia , Brazil and Japan - just to start to counter their strong holds. Anyone?
I am guilty of the bickering and stabbing myself. But I have given every effort imaginable to join those forces against Holland and USA . No real willing partners. Not even in certain area's where it would seem beneficial. I am tired. Tired of trying to band forces together to fight the super powers. Tired of neighbors, who should be allies, choosing to squabble over scraps while H and U continue to grow UNCHECKED!
Russia is now fully committed to repaying China . Not because of his stab, but because since we started talking, he has continued to turn a blind eye to Holland and disregarding the fact that he COULD make a difference. Every unit I have will now be thrown in that direction. If people, namely Austria choose to gobble up my centers as I redirect them then my point to this press will only be amplified. If France continues to be the patsy to these two powers, then I say hike that skirt up higher and bite the pillow a little harder. Soon they will swallow you up as well.
End this now, so I don't have to watch 7 players watch as their lack of awareness and desire to counter 2 players bites them in the ass.
USA and Holland - well done. Not sure how you got to that point before I joined, but what ever spell you cast over the rest of us deserves my applaud.
Dave I am coming for you...
Russia .
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| GGS 1264 / DC110 - Fall 1869 Deadline Reminder - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya folks,
Just sending out word that the Fall 1869 and E/H draw votes are due in approxmately 18 hours. I am still missing several sets of orders and votes, so please do me a favour and double-check for confirmations.
Thanks gang,
Trout[Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel Fall 1869 Delay - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya gang,
I'm sure this will come as a shock to everyone, but we find ourselves short two sets of orders for the full Fall 1869 set. The players in question have been notified, and I hope to gather the stray orders in over the morning hours.
Thanks for the patience, all. Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| GGS 1264 / DC110 - Missing A Couple World Leaders - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya gang,
Unfortunately, our two missing world leaders have yet to come to the party. Hopefully you all don't mind if we hold for just a little longer - I'm somewhat loathe to seek replacements for two positions at once and I believe this may be a weekend deadline issue. (I never seem to learn not to schedule a deadline for the weekend...)
Either results will be out tomorrow or we will seek replacement players. Thanks everyone for your ever-present patience. =)
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Early Winter... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
- AUSTRIAN FLEET ADRIATIC GOES HYDROMATIC AND OFF THE BOARD
- JAPANESE FLEET EQUATORIAL COUNTER CURRENT JOINS DAVEY JONES LOCKER
- HURRICANE SQUALLS PREVENT BRAZILIAN FORCES FROM COMMUNICATING WITH TRADES FLEET
----------------------------------
Hey everyone. Apologies about not getting these out last night - I blame the bottle. =P
Only one of four retreats remains on the board - the Austrian army is retreated to Dar Es Salaam. All three fleets are scuttled and the game moves on, with slightly adjusted build counts.
Deadline for Winter 1869 adjustments will be set for Friday, March 7th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers!
Trout
Dip 1264 / DC110 Guns, Germs and Steel
An Imperial Variant Game Game Started: June 13, 2007
Current Turn: Early Winter 1869
Next Deadline: Winter 1869 Adjustments
Friday, March 7th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Assembly of Nations
Austria: Mike Hoffman
mrh AT panix DOT com Brazil: Ted Morley
Ted DOT Morley AT SEN DOT CA DOT GOV Britain: Steve Lytton
Stevelytton AT hotmail DOT com China: Dave Watson
dipknight AT comcast DOT net Confederate States: Jim Atkins
savwa4 AT comcast DOT net France: Lee Taylor
leewarrentaylor AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk Holland: Rudi van Hal
rvhgames AT xs4all DOT nl Japan: Bret Pollack
bret_pollack AT hotmail DOT com Mexico: Randolph
ruffhaus8 AT aol DOT com Prussia: Shane Whatsit
shanefgtoledo AT yahoo DOT com Russia: Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Turkey: Jerry Todd
stgttodd AT mainecav DOT org United States: Rupert Alesbury
writetorupert AT gmail DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com Game Starting Map: http://www.diplom.org/Online/maps/imperial-small.gif Variant Description: http://www.diplom.org/Online/variants/imperial.html
EARLY WINTER 1869 RETREATS:
Austrian A Holland is Automatically Disbanded
Austrian F Adriatic retreats OTB
Austrian A Sudan retreats to Dar Es Salaam
Brazilian F North East Trades retreats OTB (No Retreat Received)
Brazilian F Honduras(nc) is Automatically Disbanded
British F Dublin is Automatically Disbanded
French F Equatorial Counter-Current retreats OTB
WINTER 1869 ADJUSTMENTS:
Japan: DISBANDS 1 Russia: DISBANDS 4 United States: BUILDS 3 Austria: BUILDS 1 Brazil: BUILDS 1 Britain: No Adjustments China: BUILDS 4 France: BUILDS 3 Holland: BUILDS 4
Unit / Supply Center Breakdown
Japan: DISBANDS 1
9 Supply Centers - Oki, Kag, Edo, Sap, Fsn, Seo, Crl, Mhl, Poa
1 Army - Seo
9 Fleets - Oki, Edo, Crl, Ecs, Kse, Wpa, Soj, Yel, Okh
Russia: DISBANDS 4
15 Supply Centers - Stp, Mos, War, Sev, Grg, Oms, Orn, Irk, Teh, Khv
Bku, Ban, Con, Ang, Sak
14 Armies - Irk, Khv, War, Teh, Kra, Bkh, Ban, Arm, Sak, Lvn, Sev, Geo
Yak, Tbr
5 Fleets - Bla, Ang(sc), Fin(nc), Orn, Bal
United States: BUILDS 3
32 Supply Centers - Wdc, Nyo, Det, Sfo, Org, Sea, Neb, Kan, Vic, Alb
Ric, Van, Yuk, Anc, Che, Nme, Que, Nsc, Okl, Atl, Glp, Aus, Nol, Bha, Maz
Sct, Mex, Mer, Cub, Hon, Dub, Haw
6 Armies - Aus, Pan, Gtm, Ala, Hon, Ric
23 Fleets - Kam, Bha, Glp, Pba, Sct, Nat, Che, Haw, Wca, Nol, Wst,
Gop, Net, Nps, Hud, Sar, Cub, Dub, Bse, Npa, Epa, Goc, Ese
Austria: BUILDS 1
18 Supply Centers - Vie, Bud, Crt, Ven, Ser, Bav, Sil, Ruh, Cai, Kie,
Rmn, Cre, Gre, Cyp, Sof, Pru, Stu, Ber
14 Armies - Stu, Dar, Twr, Kie, Cai, Ven, Pru, Sof, Fzz, Gal, Bos, Ruh
Bud, Sil
3 Fleets - Eme, Aeg, Ion
Brazil: BUILDS 1
15 Supply Centers - Bra, Oli, Rec, Prg, Brc, Uru, Lpa, Fal, Cyn, Lim
Lim, Bgt, Prm, Vrg, Pan, Hai
4 Armies - Lim, Bgt, Pan, Bra
10 Fleets - Ecs, Fal, Spa, Rec, Qto, Dra, Hai, Coa, Vrg, Uru
Britain
6 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Nwy, Grn, Swe, Den
0 Armies -
6 Fleets - Lon, Nth, Grn, Den, Bar, Edi
China: BUILDS 4
17 Supply Centers - Wuh, Chk, Snk, Can, Ben, Brm, Yut, Kas, Rng, Del
Tnk, Sha, Pek, Tsh, Hkg, Mnc, Vla
12 Armies - Pek, Tnk, Kas, Kir, Ksg, Vla, Rng, Fuc, Mnc, Hgk, Tsh, Wuh
1 Fleet - Sha
France: BUILDS 3
25 Supply Centers - Nan, Mrs, Par, Crs, Mnv, Gcs, Sie, Ivc, Pie, Vlc
Vrd, Mrc, Tun, Cmn, Okn, Azo, Gib, Sal, Hol, Sic, Rom, Trp, Fij, Rdj,
Sgr
6 Armies - Sal, Met, Okn, Pie, Par, Rom
16 Fleets - Trp, Mrc, Vrd, Sgr, Can, Adr, Sic, Rdj, Bcu, Hol, Sat, Hel, Rou,
Mat, Tun, Gog
Holland: BUILDS 4
35 Supply Centers - Ctn, Trn, Cey, Sum, Jav, Brn, Rho, Amn, Srw, Ngu
Mal, Ija, Bsw, Sey, Sgp, Mad, Bnk, Mld, Per, Qnl, Nsw, Mds, Cmb, Nze
Cch, Luz, Mnd, Bor, Oma, Ade, Bag, Aby, Sud, For, Krc
7 Armies - Asw, Krc, Cch, Aby, Bag, Cng, Syr
24 Fleets - Ain, Hdr(ec), Mds, Lus, Bnk(wc), Nzl, Rse, Sud, Phi, Pgu,
Eco, Ara, Scs, Phi, Apa, Goo, Ctn, Cor, Ngu, Lus, Izu, Bis, Gos, Jse
PRUSSIA - ELIMINATED 1865
CONFEDERATE STATES - ELIMINATED 1867
MEXICO - ELIMINATED 1868
TURKEY - ELIMINATED 1868
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1869 ADJUSTMENTS DUE FRIDAY, MARCH 7TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya everyone,
Also, I failed to mention that a DIAS proposal has hit the table. Please have your yay or nay votes for the DIAS in with your Winter 1869 Adjustments. Failure to submit a vote will count as a no.
Thanks all. Cheers,
Trout[Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Holland: Supp 35 Unit 31 Build 4
USA: Supp 32 Unit 29 Build 3
And their whores:
China: Supp 17 Unit 13 Build 4
France: Supp 25 Unit 22 Build 3
who will eventually be bent over even more when the need arises.
This game is done.
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: Cat23 1200 List <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110 <dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Rob Bristol <rBristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 8:51:49 AM
Subject: Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal
Heya everyone,
Also, I failed to mention that a DIAS proposal has hit the table. Please have your yay or nay votes for the DIAS in with your Winter 1869 Adjustments. Failure to submit a vote will count as a no.
Thanks all. Cheers,
Trout
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| Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Thats funny...I didn't get Russias original message.
But this is what I would have said...
In one single email Russia called for an attack on Holland...and vowed to come after China.
I can understand when your on the receiving end feeling bitter about not getting my back end...but I don't see as China had much choice.
True though..."the game is done"...from Russias point of view.
Don't worry, I'll make it as painless as possible.
Dave - China
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>
and it was all going so smoothly till the old Russia and Austria dropped out...
----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110 <dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Bristol <rBristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Thursday, 6 March, 2008 3:04:24 PM
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal
Holland: Supp 35 Unit 31 Build 4
USA: Supp 32 Unit 29 Build 3
And their whores:
China: Supp 17 Unit 13 Build 4
France: Supp 25 Unit 22 Build 3
who will eventually be bent over even more when the need arises.
This game is done.
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| Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
That's funny i thought it was all goign smoothly until the new china and new france came into the game...
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:27:56 +0000
From: leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal
To: rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
.ExternalClass DIV {;} and it was all going so smoothly till the old Russia and Austria dropped out...
----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Cat23 1200 List <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110 <dc110(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Bristol <rBristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Thursday, 6 March, 2008 3:04:24 PM
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and Steel DIAS Proposal
Holland: Supp 35 Unit 31 Build 4
USA: Supp 32 Unit 29 Build 3
And their whores:
China: Supp 17 Unit 13 Build 4
France: Supp 25 Unit 22 Build 3
who will eventually be bent over even more when the need arises.
This game is done.
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| GGS 1264 / DC110 - Winter 1869 and DIAS Vote Remin... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya everyone,
Just sending out the rumpus that Winter 1869 orders are due in about 18.5 hours. Still missing a few... Also, don't forget to vote on the DIAS proposal..
Thanks!
Trout[Reply] |
| GGS 1264 / DC110 - Winter 1869 and DIAS Vote Remin... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
England vote Yes.
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:26:23 -0700
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com
To: Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com; DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: GGS 1264 / DC110 - Winter 1869 and DIAS Vote Reminder
CC: bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)comcast.net; sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; savwa4(at)comcast.net; leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk; mrh(at)panix.com; ruffhaus8(at)aol.com; rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca; rBristol(at)cargojet.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl; writetorupert(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; ee_morley(at)hotmail.com; Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov
Heya everyone,
Just sending out the rumpus that Winter 1869 orders are due in about 18.5 hours. Still missing a few... Also, don't forget to vote on the DIAS proposal..
Thanks!
Trout
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