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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - offdisc   (Dec 22, 2010, 1:40 pm)

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - MattKelly   (Dec 22, 2010, 11:43 am)
You can prance and dance but you cannot hide! 








From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 11:13:42 AM
Subject: RE: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Apparently I need to make my preference public - ANY race not near Matt! 

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - garry.bledsoe   (Dec 22, 2010, 10:13 am)
Apparently I need to make my preference public - ANY race not near Matt! 





Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:47:24 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com




Jeez - you forgot "dandelion-chewing, harp strumming, tree-hugging, kumbaya singin', long-haired hippy" in there. Wink


 


Is there no end to rancor against the elves?







From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 4:45:05 AM
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...





Speaking of tyranny you pointy-eared, prancing rat (expletive deleted)! If I ever get the chance to catch you in a dark alley, stoned on fairy dust, with your back turned, with at least four of my mates, armed with broken bottles and bar stools, I too will enjoy a little revenge. And then toast your demise over a pint or two or three. To the pub! 


 


"Belch"   







From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:07:49 PM
Subject: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry









Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:20:40 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com






Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan







From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - ndeily   (Dec 22, 2010, 8:47 am)
Jeez - you forgot "dandelion-chewing, harp strumming, tree-hugging, kumbaya singin', long-haired hippy" in there. Wink


 


Is there no end to rancor against the elves?








From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 4:45:05 AM
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...





Speaking of tyranny you pointy-eared, prancing rat (expletive deleted)! If I ever get the chance to catch you in a dark alley, stoned on fairy dust, with your back turned, with at least four of my mates, armed with broken bottles and bar stools, I too will enjoy a little revenge. And then toast your demise over a pint or two or three. To the pub! 


 


"Belch"   








From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:07:49 PM
Subject: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - MattKelly   (Dec 22, 2010, 6:45 am)
Speaking of tyranny you pointy-eared, prancing rat (expletive deleted)! If I ever get the chance to catch you in a dark alley, stoned on fairy dust, with your back turned, with at least four of my mates, armed with broken bottles and bar stools, I too will enjoy a little revenge. And then toast your demise over a pint or two or three. To the pub! 


 


"Belch"   








From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:07:49 PM
Subject: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry

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DC354: Wearing Water Wings in the Deep End - TJKnauss   (Dec 21, 2010, 11:18 pm)

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - initdoby5   (Dec 21, 2010, 10:32 pm)
Hey there. I'm Dan and I'm new to Diplomaticcorp, as this is my first game on the site (as well as my first variant game). I have experience both in face-to-face Diplomacy and online play with AI for a judge, so this is a first for me in more than one way. I enjoy RTS games, chess, geography, and history, so DIplomacy was a natural fit for me.




On a side note, should we submit our preferences in public? Or privately?

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Fo... - garry.bledsoe   (Dec 21, 2010, 4:07 pm)
Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:



1. Playing in WB before

2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)

3. Playing on the site for a while

4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations

5. GMing a Haven game before

6. Playing a Haven game before....




which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).




I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 




Garry






Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:20:40 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com




Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan







From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 

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DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) initdoby5 Dec 21, 10:32 pm
Hey there. I'm Dan and I'm new to Diplomaticcorp, as this is my first game on the site (as well as my first variant game). I have experience both in face-to-face Diplomacy and online play with AI for a judge, so this is a first for me in more than one way. I enjoy RTS games, chess, geography, and history, so DIplomacy was a natural fit for me.




On a side note, should we submit our preferences in public? Or privately?
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) MattKelly Dec 22, 06:45 am
Speaking of tyranny you pointy-eared, prancing rat (expletive deleted)! If I ever get the chance to catch you in a dark alley, stoned on fairy dust, with your back turned, with at least four of my mates, armed with broken bottles and bar stools, I too will enjoy a little revenge. And then toast your demise over a pint or two or three. To the pub! 


 


"Belch"   








From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:07:49 PM
Subject: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) ndeily Dec 22, 08:47 am
Jeez - you forgot "dandelion-chewing, harp strumming, tree-hugging, kumbaya singin', long-haired hippy" in there. Wink


 


Is there no end to rancor against the elves?








From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 4:45:05 AM
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...





Speaking of tyranny you pointy-eared, prancing rat (expletive deleted)! If I ever get the chance to catch you in a dark alley, stoned on fairy dust, with your back turned, with at least four of my mates, armed with broken bottles and bar stools, I too will enjoy a little revenge. And then toast your demise over a pint or two or three. To the pub! 


 


"Belch"   








From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:07:49 PM
Subject: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) garry.bledsoe Dec 22, 10:13 am
Apparently I need to make my preference public - ANY race not near Matt! 





Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:47:24 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com




Jeez - you forgot "dandelion-chewing, harp strumming, tree-hugging, kumbaya singin', long-haired hippy" in there. Wink


 


Is there no end to rancor against the elves?







From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 4:45:05 AM
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...





Speaking of tyranny you pointy-eared, prancing rat (expletive deleted)! If I ever get the chance to catch you in a dark alley, stoned on fairy dust, with your back turned, with at least four of my mates, armed with broken bottles and bar stools, I too will enjoy a little revenge. And then toast your demise over a pint or two or three. To the pub! 


 


"Belch"   







From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:07:49 PM
Subject: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry









Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:20:40 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com






Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan







From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) MattKelly Dec 22, 11:43 am
You can prance and dance but you cannot hide! 








From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
To: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 11:13:42 AM
Subject: RE: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...



Apparently I need to make my preference public - ANY race not near Matt! 
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) offdisc Dec 22, 01:40 pm
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) Githraine Dec 22, 01:48 pm
Did I miss something?  What new rules?




From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Cc: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly
<kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 2:40:26 PM
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...


Wow... a 'shout-out' slam before the game even starts!  That's a first for me.  I feel .... honored??? 

Hi all,
I'm Mike Hoffman.  I've been playing Dip for roughly 30 years, but at this stage, who counts anymore.  Started out FtF, then to mail, then to the Judges when the Internet was finally built. Smile 


Some have said I play with a split-personality, but I'm on good drugs now, so hopefully the voices in my head will stay quiet (PARTY TIME!!!!  WOO HOO!!!!)

I am in now way anywhere nearly as devious and conniving as Garry paints me.  (HA!)  I am a truly loyal ally (To Yourself!)  who rarely, if ever, stabs anyone (Rarely ... in reference to maybe geologic time!). 


I hold no pre-conceived notions about players or the races represented in this map (Dwarves Smell!), and I've played in all 3 games so far.  By far, my favorite map to play.  So many twists and turns, alliances are so important (and variable), and the secrets of the board reveal themselves as you play (Like I'm going to divulge any to you guys now. Good Luck!). 


Looking forward to seeing how the new rules will change the game play.  I can assure you one thing:  I will not be playing Ogres again --- unless Sims has it out for me. Smile

Mike Hoffman
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com> wrote:






Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:



1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)

3. Playing on the site for a while

4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations

5. GMing a Haven game before

6. Playing a Haven game before....





which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).





I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 





Garry






Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:20:40 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?

To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com





Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan







From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>

Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) offdisc Dec 22, 02:28 pm
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) FuzzyLogic Dec 22, 02:42 pm
Nope, the world is a normal globe, drawn as a flat map cut vertically and unwrapped, just like every other worldly map we look at.  So just like you cannot walk from the north pole of earth to the south pole, so too in the Haven world can you not make that connection.  Future map, I make make on a toroid instead of a sphere, thereby allowing the dual wrap.  Whenever I get around to that.






From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Wed 12/22/2010 2:28 PM
To: Jason Koelewyn
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...




Did I misread the map, or does it now wrap top-to-bottom?
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:








Did I miss something?  What new rules?













From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Cc: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 2:40:26 PM



Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...









Wow... a 'shout-out' slam before the game even starts!  That's a first for me.  I feel .... honored??? 

Hi all,
I'm Mike Hoffman.  I've been playing Dip for roughly 30 years, but at this stage, who counts anymore.  Started out FtF, then to mail, then to the Judges when the Internet was finally built. Smile 

Some have said I play with a split-personality, but I'm on good drugs now, so hopefully the voices in my head will stay quiet (PARTY TIME!!!!  WOO HOO!!!!)

I am in now way anywhere nearly as devious and conniving as Garry paints me.  (HA!)  I am a truly loyal ally (To Yourself!)  who rarely, if ever, stabs anyone (Rarely ... in reference to maybe geologic time!). 

I hold no pre-conceived notions about players or the races represented in this map (Dwarves Smell!), and I've played in all 3 games so far.  By far, my favorite map to play.  So many twists and turns, alliances are so important (and variable), and the secrets of the board reveal themselves as you play (Like I'm going to divulge any to you guys now. Good Luck!). 

Looking forward to seeing how the new rules will change the game play.  I can assure you one thing:  I will not be playing Ogres again --- unless Sims has it out for me. Smile

Mike Hoffman
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com> wrote:




Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:





1. Playing in WB before


2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)


3. Playing on the site for a while


4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations


5. GMing a Haven game before


6. Playing a Haven game before....






which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).






I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. 






Garry










Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:20:40 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com





Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan








From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) offdisc Dec 22, 02:51 pm
DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold... (dc354) ndeily Dec 22, 03:34 pm
Maybe not through Devil's Canyon, but they sure as heck can take a loooooong trip thru Hoarluk & the Underworld to come out in the Dragonsteeth... just sayin'. Wink


 


N








From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Cc: Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 12:51:02 PM
Subject: Re: DC354: Can the
Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...

Oh, ok.  I must have dreamed that part about the Ogres using Devils Canyon to attack the Knights.  God, I need a life outside Dip.  Wink

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> wrote:


Nope, the world is a normal globe, drawn as a flat map cut vertically and unwrapped, just like every other worldly map we look at.  So just like you cannot walk from the north pole of earth to the south pole, so too in the Haven world can you not make that connection.  Future map, I make make on a toroid instead of a sphere, thereby allowing the dual wrap.  Whenever I get around to that.

________________________________

From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Wed 12/22/2010 2:28 PM
To: Jason Koelewyn


Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...





Did I misread the map, or does it now wrap top-to-bottom?
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


       Did I miss something?  What new rules?



________________________________

       From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
       To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>

       Cc: ndeily(at)yahoo.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Dirkfell Warren <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com;
jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.il <http://tomjnkns.il/> (at)gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> ; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com


       Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 2:40:26 PM

       Subject: Re: DC354: Can the Elven King of Old Return? It WAS Foretold...


       Wow... a 'shout-out' slam before the game even starts!  That's a first for me.  I feel .... honored???

       Hi all,
       I'm Mike Hoffman.  I've been playing Dip for roughly 30 years, but at this stage, who counts anymore.  Started out FtF, then to mail, then to the Judges when the Internet was finally built. Smile

       Some have said I play with a split-personality, but I'm on good drugs now, so hopefully the voices in my head will stay quiet (PARTY TIME!!!!  WOO HOO!!!!)

       I am in now way anywhere nearly as devious and conniving as Garry paints me.  (HA!)  I am a truly loyal ally (To
Yourself!)  who rarely, if ever, stabs anyone (Rarely ... in reference to maybe geologic time!).

       I hold no pre-conceived notions about players or the races represented in this map (Dwarves Smell!), and I've played in all 3 games so far.  By far, my favorite map to play.  So many twists and turns, alliances are so important (and variable), and the secrets of the board reveal themselves as you play (Like I'm going to divulge any to you guys now. Good Luck!).

       Looking forward to seeing how the new rules will change the game play.  I can assure you one thing:  I will not be playing Ogres again --- unless Sims has it out for me. Smile

       Mike Hoffman
       ---------
       "Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
       "Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is
increased" --- Spider Robinson




       On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com> wrote:


               Halloo to all and well met. I know several of you (and have had the pleasure of being stabbed by you) and others I am just prepping to get used by. I have had the pleasure of several things:

               1. Playing in WB before
               2. Helping run WB before (as I will be again)
               3. Playing on the site for a while
               4. Racking up an impressive list of eliminations
           
   5. GMing a Haven game before
               6. Playing a Haven game before....

               which brings us to the Elven King. It was foretold that the Elven King sailed away to Middle-Earth (escaping Ogre tyranny in Haven) and would someday return to take his vengeance. Mayhap now is that time? (I was the ill-fated, much hated, under-rated Elves in DC224).


               I apologize in advance. My dealings with several of you will be by needs brief given that we will unlikely have anything to discuss early on if we are not in the same hemisphere. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't LOVE having you as a mid-game ally if I can survive Mike Hoffman that long. Surprised smile








               Garry



________________________________

               Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:20:40 -0800
               From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
               Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
               To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com


               Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.

               Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.

               I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in
addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.

               I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).

               Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.

           
   One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.

               Nathan



________________________________

               From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
               To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
               Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
               Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?


               Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in
some preferences!

               So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.

               If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would
only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.

               There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.

               Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.

               Enjoy!
 
             -mike
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - ndeily   (Dec 20, 2010, 5:20 pm)
Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan








From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - balthazar   (Dec 20, 2010, 4:36 pm)

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - JDTrickey   (Dec 20, 2010, 3:59 pm)
Hello all. I first started playing Diplomacy some thirty odd years ago against my cousin and his friends, including one fellow that was actually named Attila. (Yes, he was Hungarian) Usually these were face to face games with the board taking many hours.


I was driven to look on the internet due to a lack of interested players where I presently live. The hours are better, but I still like to push the little blocks of wood around from time to time.



James Trickey jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com



On Mon 20/12/10 10:21 AM , "Michael Sims" mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net sent:






Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - Githraine   (Dec 20, 2010, 2:08 pm)
Also, please visit DC's Facebook page...

Diplomaticcorp: A
play-by-email Diplomacy community



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon,
December 20, 2010 10:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?




Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - Githraine   (Dec 20, 2010, 12:55 pm)
Welcome Jeff!

I am Jason AKA Githraine.  I have been playing on DC for close to 5 years now.
I am a Jr Moderator on DC where I help run the Light Brigade, and have developed 1 variant based on Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.
I am currently working on my second Variant, which will run as a Fog of War game.

I am also one of several players here to have been on this map before.

Happy Hunting!





From: Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>
To: Michael Sims
<mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Cc: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 12:07:05 PM
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?


I voted to get the fun started sooner rather than later. Just by way of introduction, I've been playing diplomacy off and on since college (which I'm sad to say was 15 years ago). Played several PBEM games both on the judges and off. I've mostly stayed away from Variants until I found the joy of the DP point variants. Looking forward to hours of frustration and instants of anger Wink




Good luck to all of you!

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - laxrulz777   (Dec 20, 2010, 11:07 am)
I voted to get the fun started sooner rather than later. Just by way of introduction, I've been playing diplomacy off and on since college (which I'm sad to say was 15 years ago). Played several PBEM games both on the judges and off. I've mostly stayed away from Variants until I found the joy of the DP point variants. Looking forward to hours of frustration and instants of anger Wink




Good luck to all of you!

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? - FuzzyLogic   (Dec 20, 2010, 9:21 am)
Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 

[Reply]

When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) laxrulz777 Dec 20, 11:07 am
I voted to get the fun started sooner rather than later. Just by way of introduction, I've been playing diplomacy off and on since college (which I'm sad to say was 15 years ago). Played several PBEM games both on the judges and off. I've mostly stayed away from Variants until I found the joy of the DP point variants. Looking forward to hours of frustration and instants of anger Wink




Good luck to all of you!
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) Githraine Dec 20, 12:55 pm
Welcome Jeff!

I am Jason AKA Githraine.  I have been playing on DC for close to 5 years now.
I am a Jr Moderator on DC where I help run the Light Brigade, and have developed 1 variant based on Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.
I am currently working on my second Variant, which will run as a Fog of War game.

I am also one of several players here to have been on this map before.

Happy Hunting!





From: Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>
To: Michael Sims
<mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Cc: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 12:07:05 PM
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?


I voted to get the fun started sooner rather than later. Just by way of introduction, I've been playing diplomacy off and on since college (which I'm sad to say was 15 years ago). Played several PBEM games both on the judges and off. I've mostly stayed away from Variants until I found the joy of the DP point variants. Looking forward to hours of frustration and instants of anger Wink




Good luck to all of you!
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) Githraine Dec 20, 02:08 pm
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From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon,
December 20, 2010 10:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?




Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) JDTrickey Dec 20, 03:59 pm
Hello all. I first started playing Diplomacy some thirty odd years ago against my cousin and his friends, including one fellow that was actually named Attila. (Yes, he was Hungarian) Usually these were face to face games with the board taking many hours.


I was driven to look on the internet due to a lack of interested players where I presently live. The hours are better, but I still like to push the little blocks of wood around from time to time.



James Trickey jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com



On Mon 20/12/10 10:21 AM , "Michael Sims" mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net sent:






Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) balthazar Dec 20, 04:36 pm
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) ndeily Dec 20, 05:20 pm
Consider me officially on the intro bandwagon.


 


Nathan Deily - first introduced to Diplomacy about 15 years ago in high school. Quite a lot of ftf and even light variant play at that time, and then got into pbem in college on CAT-23 and other places.


 


I was very excited to join Diplomaticcorp a few years ago and have played there fairly actively (in addition to some other new groups I have had the pleasure of being exposed to), very often because it affords the opportunity to try new variants and stretch my brain in new ways I can bring back to Classic.


 


I agreed to take over an ailing Hobbit position in the "Slaughter at Story Time" run of Haven and was rewarded with a long, slow, painful death in that game. Suffice it to say I'm looking to try my hand in a different corner of the board this time (or at least make my own bed before I have to lie in it).


 


Winter Blitz is the only tournament I've ever had the pleasure of playing in (2nd time in a row this past year, and very excited for my third run at it). Managed to get a 2-way draw in the first round but then got shellacked in the 2nd round... hope to see you all there as well.


 


One question for Mike - I gather this is not the "Fog of War" version of Haven, but just in case it is... can you confirm? That does have several important implicaitons. I seem to remember that "Slaughter" wasn't.


 


Nathan








From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 7:21:00 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) FuzzyLogic Dec 23, 11:38 am
All prefs are in!  Starting lineups out soon...


-mike






From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 12/20/2010 9:21 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?






Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) FuzzyLogic Dec 23, 11:48 am
Any guesses on the only civilization *not* on any preference list anywhere?






From: Michael Sims
Sent: Thu 12/23/2010 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?








All prefs are in!  Starting lineups out soon...


-mike






From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 12/20/2010 9:21 AM
Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?






Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know!  Here is our final 19.  Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!


 


So I'm going to go w option 3.  I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs.  Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.


 


If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5.  You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels.  Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.


 


There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas?  I can do that if y'all want.  First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan.  I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.


 


Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new.  So intros are welcome too!  Feel free to copy the group.  Heck it'll pass the time.  Like you know what I do in my spare time?  I build w LEGOs.  No - really.  Some pretty big scale stuff.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


 


 


 


 
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) laxrulz777 Dec 23, 11:53 am
Elves?


On Dec 23, 2010 12:51 PM, "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> wrote:
> Any guesses on the only civilization *not* on any preference list anywhere?

>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Sims
> Sent: Thu 12/23/2010 11:38 AM
> Subject: RE: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
>
>
> All prefs are in! Starting lineups out soon...

> -mike
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Sims
> Sent: Mon 12/20/2010 9:21 AM
> Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
>
>
> Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know! Here is our final 19. Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!

>
> So I'm going to go w option 3. I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs. Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.

>
> If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5. You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels. Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.

>
> There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas? I can do that if y'all want. First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan. I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.

>
> Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new. So intros are welcome too! Feel free to copy the group. Heck it'll pass the time. Like you know what I do in my spare time? I build w LEGOs. No - really. Some pretty big scale stuff.

>
> Enjoy!
> -mike
>
>
>
>
>
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) FuzzyLogic Dec 23, 11:56 am
A good guess, but no.  The Elves, along w the Leprechauns, are by far the worst performers in Haven history.  Rounding out a performance score of 0 (zero!) they have never even survived to the end, getting eliminated in all three games to date:


 


http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Haven&chart=Column3D


 






From: Jeff Hall [mailto:hall.jeff(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 12/23/2010 11:53 AM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: RE: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?






Elves?


On Dec 23, 2010 12:51 PM, "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> wrote:
> Any guesses on the only civilization *not* on any preference list anywhere?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Sims
> Sent: Thu 12/23/2010 11:38 AM
> Subject: RE: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
>
>
> All prefs are in! Starting lineups out soon...
> -mike
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Sims
> Sent: Mon 12/20/2010 9:21 AM
> Subject: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?
>
>
> Somehow that doesn't seem too common a request - but in this game you never know! Here is our final 19. Since we have a little time to kill, we can sit here and twiddle our thumbs, or we can bake some Haven Holiday treats, or we can turn in some preferences!
>
> So I'm going to go w option 3. I don't in most games, but in this one so many have already voiced an opinion on what they'd like to play that I'll open it up to prefs. Each player should (ok, must - but I just hate laying down the law like that!) turn in a set of prefs, even if your preference is "I'd rather leave my future civilization which I will henceforth lead from infancy to world domination in the hands of the fates"... you should still turn something in.
>
> If you would like your preferences to be more particular than that, you should turn in a list of at least 5. You can use the first letter of the civ name, each one starts with something different... like A E I O U... if your pref is to play the Archers, Elves, Ogres, Undead... or if you just have a liking for vowels. Note that would only be 4, not 5, since I is invalid, and I'd have to write you back a nasty letter requesting you pick a 5th one, thereby expanding your horizons beyond those of just vowels.
>
> There's a lot of eager energy here, do you want me to assign powers and send out the player list pre-Christmas? I can do that if y'all want. First deadline still wouldn't be till Jan. I would only do this if everyone confirms they're ok w this and wouldn't be put out or left behind.
>
> Note - some of you I know well, others are completely new. So intros are welcome too! Feel free to copy the group. Heck it'll pass the time. Like you know what I do in my spare time? I build w LEGOs. No - really. Some pretty big scale stuff.
>
> Enjoy!
> -mike
>
>
>
>
>
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) garry.bledsoe Dec 23, 12:01 pm
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) laxrulz777 Dec 23, 12:09 pm
Nope... I had them as #2


On Dec 23, 2010 1:01 PM, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am betting nomads.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) mgsmuhammad Dec 23, 12:11 pm
I'm willing to support that bet.


 


Can't see being cut off on three different landmasses as terribly popular..

--- On Thu, 23/12/10, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com> wrote:




From: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: When I grow up I want to be... a Troll?



I am betting nomads.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
When I grow up I want to be... a Troll? (dc354) initdoby5 Dec 24, 10:59 am
They were my first pick. Something about having a third of a hand in three places in appealing to me.

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