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Author:DamienThryn
Posted:Oct 17, 2009 at 11:15 am
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Agreed, thanks a lot Wolf for GMing.

Well, I can't speak to much but the endgame as I came in so late, but my basic strategy was to survive and possibly participate in a draw.  The immediate concern was to stop Austria from soloing outright - he'd do it through me and I working with Italy had a chance at stopping him.


While I entertained the thought of working with Austria in return for getting my home centers back, he didn't like the idea and I found Italy to be more accommodating.  I didn't know England and Russia's stand but I could see both cooperating with Austria to ensure survival.  So I pointed out to Italy that by taking the English centers he'd offset any losses and be able to build fleets in the Med - Austria's true weak point.


With only one fleet Italy had the ability to eventually break through and threaten the entire Austrian southern wing.  With Italy and I stalemating in Germany, either the north or south would become vulnerable.  Austria did the smart thing and garrisoned the south - at the cost of allowing me to land forces in the Baltic.


Long term if Italy had not wanted to solo things could have gotten really interesting - It looks like with his help I could have reclaimed Germany and Russia and I had found an opening for cooperation.  Would have been fun to have rebuilt Russia and Germany and see where that could go.


But I don't blame Italy for taking the solo when he had the chance - and although I figured it was coming it seemed wise to not try to keep him from getting that last center or two, when Austria would have been more than happy to kill me off in order to try and win himself.


Good game all.


Andrew  

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Tim Fuhrmeister <timfuhrmeister(at)hotmail.com ([email]timfuhrmeister(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

First hats off to the GM (whoever said gming was a thankless job!) and as white wolf mentioned earlier this is my first pbem win so dc239 will always be a special game for me. I guess the main factor of my succsess was my alliance with Austria that we both worked at very hard to get going and maintain. It would have been just as satisfying to pull off a it/aus draw but in the end Im glad austria stabbed me. And I just gotta know austria was that move into ven early in the game a misorder or did you plan that? That was pretty much the low point of italy; foreign troops in ven, shut out of turkey and a unfriendly france. Luckily, France wasen't all that active and I managed to roll over him. Unfortunatly that was a big part of the game inactivity and replaced players that allowed austria and me to do so well. I diddint even talk to a russian once! Thanks for all you replacement players who took over hard positions and kept this game running smoothly. As to my final victory push I couldnt have done it without germany I wont speculate why but will leave it to the Kaiser to explain I will just point out that germany IS around to take part in the ending and I am much happier that it is him and not the previous Kaiser. Somewhere in the midgame when austria just started to attack germany I decided to leak austrias turn to the kaiser under the condition he tells no one. So what does he do? Forwards my email to russia! At that point I cancelled my plans to stab austria and swore to myself to destroy germany....I only have one word of advice and its to austria. Your stab and grab happened a few turns too soon. If you had just waited alittle it could have been you with the solo.
Thanks All!
Tim Fuhrmeister.



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From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
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Subject: DC-239 Fall 1912 Adjudication

Guys,
  Pretty impressive turn for Italy. Despite a last minute change which included a misorder, Tim finally managed to capture Munich. Plus, with the timely stab of his ally and the capture of England's last center, we have a winner. Congratulations to Tim for his first PBeM solo (that's right, ever.)
  I've taken the liberty of forcing all retreats, regardless of the number of available options, in order to get us to the winter and an official finale. If anyone's butthurt about this command decision, feel free to complain about it in your EoG (that means I hope to see some!)
  Thanks all for a great game, especially Packrat, Andrew and John, who are all replacements. And yes, though Scott came in after less than a year, he still counts.
  As stated in a roundabout fashion above, I'd love to see EoGs. Feel free to "Reply All" to this email when composing.

Players:

Austria:    Darryl Good           dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])
England:   Packrat                 brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])
France:    Civil Disorder
Germany: Andrew Tanner      damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])
Italy:        Tim Fuhrmeister     timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com ([email]timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Russia:    John R                  untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Turkey:    Civil Disorder


Orders:

Austria:
A Berlin Supports A Warsaw - Prussia
A Bohemia Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
A Bulgaria - Constantinople (*Bounce*)
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Galicia - Warsaw (*Bounce*)
A Greece Hold
A Munich Supports A Berlin (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia Supports A Greece
A Silesia Supports A Berlin
A Smyrna - Constantinople (*Bounce*)
F Trieste Hold
A Vienna Supports F Trieste
A Warsaw - Prussia

England:
F Norway - St Petersburg(nc) (*Dislodged*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Sweden
A Livonia - Warsaw (*Bounce*)
F Prussia - Berlin (*Dislodged*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Albania
F Aegean Sea Supports F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Apulia - Venice
A Belgium - Holland
A Burgundy Supports A Kiel - Ruhr (*Void*)
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Kiel - Munich
F North Sea Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel - Munich
F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Tyrolia - Bohemia (*Fails*)
A Venice - Piedmont

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg (*Bounce*)


Retreats:

Austrian F Eastern Mediterranean can retreat to Syria or OTB.
Austrian A Munich has no retreats, disbanded.
English F Norway can retreat to Skagerrak,Barents Sea or OTB.
German F Prussia can retreat to Baltic Sea or OTB.


Retreat Orders:

Austria:
F Eastern Mediterranean - Syria

England:
F Norway - Barents Sea

Germany:
F Prussia - Baltic Sea


Final Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: (13/12)
Armies - Ber, Boh, Bul, Gal, Gre, Pru, Ser, Sil, Smy, Vie
Fleets - Syr, Tri

England: (0/1) ELIMINATED
Fleets - Bar

France: ELIMINATED 1909

Germany: (1/3)
Armies - Lvn
Fleets - Bal, Swe

Italy: (18/14)
Armies - Bur, Hol, Mun, Pie, Ruh, Trl, Ven
Fleets - Aeg, Alb, Den, Eas, Ion, Nth, Nwy

Russia: (2/1)
Armies - Mos

Turkey: ELIMINATED 1906


Final Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks for a great game, everyone,
The White Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
 http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/



This message is in reply to post 13133:

Guys,
Pretty impressive turn for Italy. Despite a last minute change which included a misorder, Tim finally managed to capture Munich. Plus, with the timely stab of his ally and the capture of England's last center, we have a winner. Congratulations to Tim for his first PBeM solo (that's right, ever.)
I've taken the liberty of forcing all retreats, regardless of the number of available options, in order to get us to the winter and an official finale. If anyone's butthurt about this command decision, feel free to complain about it in your EoG (that means I hope to see some!)
Thanks all for a great game, especially Packrat, Andrew and John, who are all replacements. And yes, though Scott came in after less than a year, he still counts.
As stated in a roundabout fashion above, I'd love to see EoGs. Feel free to "Reply All" to this email when composing.

Players:

Austria: Darryl Good dipknight(at)gmail.com
England: Packrat brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
France: Civil Disorder
Germany: Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com
Italy: Tim Fuhrmeister timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com
Russia: John R untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Turkey: Civil Disorder


Orders:

Austria:
A Berlin Supports A Warsaw - Prussia
A Bohemia Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
A Bulgaria - Constantinople (*Bounce*)
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Galicia - Warsaw (*Bounce*)
A Greece Hold
A Munich Supports A Berlin (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia Supports A Greece
A Silesia Supports A Berlin
A Smyrna - Constantinople (*Bounce*)
F Trieste Hold
A Vienna Supports F Trieste
A Warsaw - Prussia

England:
F Norway - St Petersburg(nc) (*Dislodged*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Sweden
A Livonia - Warsaw (*Bounce*)
F Prussia - Berlin (*Dislodged*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Albania
F Aegean Sea Supports F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Apulia - Venice
A Belgium - Holland
A Burgundy Supports A Kiel - Ruhr (*Void*)
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Kiel - Munich
F North Sea Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel - Munich
F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Tyrolia - Bohemia (*Fails*)
A Venice - Piedmont

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg (*Bounce*)


Retreats:

Austrian F Eastern Mediterranean can retreat to Syria or OTB.
Austrian A Munich has no retreats, disbanded.
English F Norway can retreat to Skagerrak,Barents Sea or OTB.
German F Prussia can retreat to Baltic Sea or OTB.


Retreat Orders:

Austria:
F Eastern Mediterranean - Syria

England:
F Norway - Barents Sea

Germany:
F Prussia - Baltic Sea


Final Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: (13/12)
Armies - Ber, Boh, Bul, Gal, Gre, Pru, Ser, Sil, Smy, Vie
Fleets - Syr, Tri

England: (0/1) ELIMINATED
Fleets - Bar

France: ELIMINATED 1909

Germany: (1/3)
Armies - Lvn
Fleets - Bal, Swe

Italy: (18/14)
Armies - Bur, Hol, Mun, Pie, Ruh, Trl, Ven
Fleets - Aeg, Alb, Den, Eas, Ion, Nth, Nwy

Russia: (2/1)
Armies - Mos

Turkey: ELIMINATED 1906


Final Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks for a great game, everyone,
The White Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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