Hey now,  
It is all public information, I am just saying, you know?   And talking about how poorly Warren and I have done in the past is (I hope) not painting targets.You on the other hand, did what we thought was nigh impossible.  You proved that you can solo this map!That should be celebrated! 
And that has to be the oddest pre-game trash talk I have ever uttered!!! 
Jason 
 
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:01 PM, "diplomacy(at)diffell.net"  wrote: 
     
 
 Hey now, it's fine to paint targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
painting them on anyone else's   
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  wrote: 
> Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
> You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
> I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
>  
> So yeah, you win. 
> Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
so 
> he has us both beat...    
>  
> Sir Jason 
>  
>  
>  
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
> wrote: 
>   
>  
>  
> Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside 
handed 
> to me in the last one though...... 
>  
> Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
>  
> Warren 
>  
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
>  
>  
> Hey All,  
>> 
>>I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September. 
>>Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be 
 able to e-mail, if I can 
>>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
>> 
>> 
>>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
>>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself 
on 
>>this map. 
>>Warren however has finished better then I have though   
>> 
>> 
>>Jason 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims 
>> wrote: 
>>  
>> 
>> 
> Here we go, the 
 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  
Wow 
> can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  
To 
> put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new 
> baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 
later 
> this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is 
new... 
> Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the 
past 
> iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... 
> several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of 
my 
> nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of 
eager 
> new players too.  Should be exciting!   
>   
> Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of 
> prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You 
can 
> always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in 
ahead 
> of time.   
>   
> So by... 
>   
> Wednesday August 14 
>   
> Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline 
officially 
> at: 
>   
> Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
>   
> Once we are out of the first year, I 
 will not hound people for orders.  
> Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware 
of 
> this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the 
deadline, 
> your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
up 
> NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting 
> new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're 
> particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will 
beat 
> you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let 
this 
> happen - it's not worth it. 
>   
> What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house 
 rules can be found 
> here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you 
get 
> a minute. 
>   
> If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about 
> the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build 
> centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  
Or 
> even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you 
> didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
>   
> Enjoy! 
> -mike 
>   
> ID Country Name Email Location  
> AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com Ottawa, ON, CA  
> alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com Alberta 
> Beach, AB, CA  
> BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, 
> Stavropol Krai, RU  
> briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net Alexandria, 
> VA, US  
> Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com Boston, MA, US  
> DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com Hempstead, NY, US 
 
> garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com Charlotte, NC, 
> US  
> Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com Havertown, PA, US  
> jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com   
> Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com Cartersville, GA, US  
> MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net Fredericksburg, VA, 
US  
> melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com Seattle, 
WA, 
> US  
> ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com Seattle, WA, US  
> Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, 
> ON, CA  
> Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com Worcester, 
> MA, US  
> rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com Minehead, SOM, UK  
> sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com San Diego, 
> CA, US  
> tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com New York, 
NY, 
> US  
> waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de Koeln / Cologne, 
> Nordrheinwestfalen, DE[Reply]  | 
Hey now, it's fine to paint targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
painting them on anyone else's   
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  wrote: 
Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
 
So yeah, you win. 
Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
so 
he has us both beat...??   
 
Sir Jason 
 
 
 
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
wrote: 
  
 
 
Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside 
handed 
to me in the last one though...... 
 
Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.?? 
 
Warren 
 
On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
 
 
Hey All,  
> 
>I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September. 
>Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can 
>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
> 
> 
>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself 
on 
>this map. 
>Warren however has finished better then I have though   
> 
> 
>Jason 
> 
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims 
> wrote: 
>  
> 
> 
Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!?? 
Wow 
can you believe 8 games.?? I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.?? 
To 
put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and??a new 
baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 
later 
this month.?? My how time flies.?? But I reminisce!?? For this game is 
new... 
Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in??many of the 
past 
iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... 
several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of 
my 
nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of 
eager 
new players too.?? Should be exciting!??  
?? 
Here's your civilizations.?? For the first turn, I??require a set of 
prelims.?? For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.?? Why not??? You 
can 
always change them later.?? But I do like the first turn to be 100% in 
ahead 
of time.??  
?? 
So by... 
?? 
Wednesday August 14 
?? 
Send me a set of orders.?? Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline 
officially 
at: 
?? 
Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
?? 
Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.?? 
Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.?? Please be aware 
of 
this!?? I am notorious for just running a turn.?? If you miss the 
deadline, 
your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
up 
NMRs, and that is never a good thing.?? You won't get invited to exciting 
new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're 
particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will 
beat 
you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.?? Don't let 
this 
happen - it's not worth it. 
?? 
What else.?? I think that's about it.?? My usual house rules can be found 
here ? www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.?? Read them thru when you 
get 
a minute. 
?? 
If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.?? Whether it's about 
the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build 
centers, whatever.?? Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!?? 
Or 
even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you 
didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
?? 
Enjoy! 
-mike 
?? 
ID Country Name Email Location  
AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com Ottawa, ON, CA  
alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com Alberta 
Beach, AB, CA  
BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, 
Stavropol Krai, RU  
briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net Alexandria, 
VA, US  
Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com Boston, MA, US  
DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com Hempstead, NY, US 
garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com Charlotte, NC, 
US  
Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com Havertown, PA, US  
jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com   
Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com Cartersville, GA, US  
MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net Fredericksburg, VA, 
US  
melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com Seattle, 
WA, 
US  
ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com Seattle, WA, US  
Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, 
ON, CA  
Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com Worcester, 
MA, US  
rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com Minehead, SOM, UK  
sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com San Diego, 
CA, US  
tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com New York, 
NY, 
US  
waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de Koeln / Cologne, 
Nordrheinwestfalen, DE[Reply]  | 
| dc505 Haven update & lineup change (dc505)  Githraine Aug 12, 12:46 pm | 
Another veteran of the Original Haven game!Welcome back! 
Jason 
  
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:43 PM, Michael Sims  wrote: 
     
 
  
  
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Just like that we have a lineup change!  One newbie that was on the fence opted out, so the Hobbits will be played by the tall, dark and sinister Clark Landry. 
Enjoy! 
-mike 
  
  
 
 
 
 
ID 
Country 
Name 
Email 
Location 
 
AFreakyName 
Undead 
Tom Holmes 
tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com 
Ottawa, ON, CA 
 
alwayshunted 
Archers 
Warren Fleming 
alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com 
Alberta Beach, AB, CA 
 
BaronVonPWN 
Shades 
Patrick Cloutier 
patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, Stavropol Krai, RU 
 
briandiffell 
Barbarians 
Brian Diffell 
diplomacy(at)diffell.net 
Alexandria, VA, US 
 
cl2849 
Hobbits 
Clark L 
clarklandry(at)gmail.com 
 
 
Corrino 
Faeries 
Chris Morse 
camorse22(at)yahoo.com 
Boston, MA, US 
 
DonovanHowe 
Nomads 
Donovan Howe 
howe.donovan(at)gmail.com 
Hempstead, NY, US 
 
garry.bledsoe 
Pirates 
Garry Bledsoe 
kielmarch(at)hotmail.com 
Charlotte, NC, US 
 
Githraine 
Knights 
Jason K 
Githraine(at)yahoo.com 
Havertown, PA, US 
 
jgramoll 
Dwarves 
Jim Gramoll 
jgramoll(at)gramoll.com 
 
 
Joral 
Rogues 
Justin Card 
joral(at)darkenedpath.com 
Cartersville, GA, US 
 
MattKelly 
Trolls 
Matthew Kelly 
kelly058(at)verizon.net 
Fredericksburg, VA, US 
 
ndeily 
Leprechauns 
Nathan Deily 
ndeily(at)yahoo.com 
Seattle, WA, US 
 
Nobunaga 
Wizards 
Philip Martell 
nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, ON, CA 
 
Operations 
Elves 
Bryan Laferriere 
operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com 
Worcester, MA, US 
 
rosswebb 
Centaurs 
Ross Webb 
rossjwebb(at)gmail.com 
Minehead, SOM, UK 
 
sandiegosmith 
Magicians 
Mark Smith 
sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com 
San Diego, CA, US 
 
tarakashka 
Gnomes 
ilya guzman 
tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com 
New York, NY, US 
 
waschlappen 
Ogres 
Rolf Loschek 
rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de 
Koeln / Cologne, Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Haven update & lineup change (dc505)  cl2849 Aug 13, 01:22 pm | 
 | 
| dc505 Haven update & lineup change (dc505)  Nobunaga Aug 17, 12:12 am | 
 | 
| dc505 Haven update & lineup change (dc505)  ndeily Aug 17, 11:41 am | 
Welcome Phil - The Leprechauns look forward to your missive.  
N  
 
     On Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:12 PM, Phil Martell  wrote: 
      
 
 Hey everyone, 
 
My name is Phil and I'll be playing the Wizards this game. I've joined a number of games on this site, but it's my first time playing Haven. Not that I expect you to go easy on me! I'll be sending individual e-mails to everyone over the next day or so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game! 
 
 
Phil 
  
 
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Clark Landry  wrote: 
 
Thanks guys! 
 
 
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
Another veteran of the Original Haven game! 
 
 
Welcome back! 
 
 
 
Jason 
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
 
   On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:43 PM, Michael Sims  wrote: 
     
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
Just like that we have a lineup change!  One newbie that was on the fence opted out, so the Hobbits will be played by the tall, dark and sinister Clark Landry. 
 
 
 
Enjoy! 
-mike 
  
  
 
IDCountryNameEmailLocationAFreakyNameUndeadTom Holmestom.s.holmes(at)gmail.comOttawa, ON, CAalwayshuntedArchersWarren Flemingalwayshunted(at)hotmail.comAlberta Beach, AB, CABaronVonPWNShadesPatrick Cloutierpatrickccloutier(at)gmail.comStavropol, Stavropol Krai, RUbriandiffellBarbariansBrian Diffelldiplomacy(at)diffell.netAlexandria, VA, UScl2849HobbitsClark Lclarklandry(at)gmail.comCorrinoFaeriesChris Morsecamorse22(at)yahoo.comBoston, MA, USDonovanHoweNomadsDonovan Howehowe.donovan(at)gmail.comHempstead, NY, USgarry.bledsoePiratesGarry Bledsoekielmarch(at)hotmail.comCharlotte, NC, USGithraineKnightsJason KGithraine(at)yahoo.comHavertown, PA, USjgramollDwarvesJim Gramolljgramoll(at)gramoll.comJoralRoguesJustin Cardjoral(at)darkenedpath.comCartersville, GA, USMattKellyTrollsMatthew Kellykelly058(at)verizon.netFredericksburg, VA, USndeilyLeprechaunsNathan 
 Deilyndeily(at)yahoo.comSeattle, WA, USNobunagaWizardsPhilip Martellnobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.comToronto, ON, CAOperationsElvesBryan Laferriereoperationsx_2000(at)yahoo.comWorcester, MA, USrosswebbCentaursRoss Webbrossjwebb(at)gmail.comMinehead, SOM, UKsandiegosmithMagiciansMark Smithsandiegosmith(at)hotmail.comSan Diego, CA, UStarakashkaGnomesilya guzmantarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.comNew York, NY, USwaschlappenOgresRolf Loschekrolfloschek(at)yahoo.deKoeln / Cologne, Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
Warren, sorry to say it is true.You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw.I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
So yeah, you win.Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, so he has us both beat...    
Sir Jason 
  
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  wrote: 
     
 
 Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside handed to me in the last one though...... 
Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
Warren 
On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
 
Hey All,  
I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September.Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can find a signal (I think the 
 lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
Welcome to all. This is always a fun map.And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself on this map.Warren however has finished better then I have though   
Jason  
 
    
  On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims  wrote: 
     
 
  
 
Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  Wow can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  To put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 later this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is new... Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the past iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of my nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of eager new players too.  Should be exciting!   
  
Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You can always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in ahead of time.   
  
So by... 
  
Wednesday August 14 
  
Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline officially at: 
  
Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
  
Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.  Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware of this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the deadline, your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack up NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will beat you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let this happen - it's not worth it. 
  
What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house rules can be found here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you get a minute. 
  
If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  Or even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
  
Enjoy! 
-mike 
  
 
IDCountryNameEmailLocationAFreakyNameUndeadTom Holmestom.s.holmes(at)gmail.comOttawa, ON, CAalwayshuntedArchersWarren Flemingalwayshunted(at)hotmail.comAlberta Beach, AB, CABaronVonPWNShadesPatrick Cloutierpatrickccloutier(at)gmail.comStavropol, Stavropol Krai, RUbriandiffellBarbariansBrian Diffelldiplomacy(at)diffell.netAlexandria, VA, USCorrinoFaeriesChris Morsecamorse22(at)yahoo.comBoston, MA, USDonovanHoweNomadsDonovan Howehowe.donovan(at)gmail.comHempstead, NY, USgarry.bledsoePiratesGarry Bledsoekielmarch(at)hotmail.comCharlotte, NC, USGithraineKnightsJason KGithraine(at)yahoo.comHavertown, PA, USjgramollDwarvesJim Gramolljgramoll(at)gramoll.comJoralRoguesJustin Cardjoral(at)darkenedpath.comCartersville, GA, USMattKellyTrollsMatthew Kellykelly058(at)verizon.netFredericksburg, VA, USmelisasilemHobbitsMelisa Baterboniamelisabaterbonia(at)me.comSeattle, WA, USndeilyLeprechaunsNathan Deilyndeily(at)yahoo.comSeattle, WA, USNobunagaWizardsPhilip Martellnobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.comToronto, ON, CAOperationsElvesBryan Laferriereoperationsx_2000(at)yahoo.comWorcester, MA, USrosswebbCentaursRoss Webbrossjwebb(at)gmail.comMinehead, SOM, UKsandiegosmithMagiciansMark Smithsandiegosmith(at)hotmail.comSan Diego, CA, UStarakashkaGnomesilya guzmantarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.comNew York, NY, USwaschlappenOgresRolf Loschekrolfloschek(at)yahoo.deKoeln / Cologne, Nordrheinwestfalen, DE[Reply]  | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  Githraine Aug 12, 08:48 am | 
Hey All,  
I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September.Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
Welcome to all. This is always a fun map.And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself on this map.Warren however has finished better then I have though   
Jason  
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims  wrote: 
     
 
  
  
#yiv6895428955 body, #yiv6895428955 p, #yiv6895428955 table {font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:12px;}#yiv6895428955 .yiv6895428955disclaimer {color:#900;font-size:10px;} 
 
  
 
 
Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  Wow can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  To put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 later this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is new... Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the past iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of my nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of eager new players too.  Should be exciting!   
  
Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You can always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in ahead of time.   
  
So by... 
  
Wednesday August 14 
  
Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline officially at: 
  
Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
  
Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.  Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware of this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the deadline, your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack up NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will beat you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let this happen - it's not worth it. 
  
What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house rules can be found here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you get a minute. 
  
If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  Or even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
  
Enjoy! 
-mike 
  
 
 
 
 
ID 
Country 
Name 
Email 
Location 
 
AFreakyName 
Undead 
Tom Holmes 
tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com 
Ottawa, ON, CA 
 
alwayshunted 
Archers 
Warren Fleming 
alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com 
Alberta Beach, AB, CA 
 
BaronVonPWN 
Shades 
Patrick Cloutier 
patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, Stavropol Krai, RU 
 
briandiffell 
Barbarians 
Brian Diffell 
diplomacy(at)diffell.net 
Alexandria, VA, US 
 
Corrino 
Faeries 
Chris Morse 
camorse22(at)yahoo.com 
Boston, MA, US 
 
DonovanHowe 
Nomads 
Donovan Howe 
howe.donovan(at)gmail.com 
Hempstead, NY, US 
 
garry.bledsoe 
Pirates 
Garry Bledsoe 
kielmarch(at)hotmail.com 
Charlotte, NC, US 
 
Githraine 
Knights 
Jason K 
Githraine(at)yahoo.com 
Havertown, PA, US 
 
jgramoll 
Dwarves 
Jim Gramoll 
jgramoll(at)gramoll.com 
 
 
Joral 
Rogues 
Justin Card 
joral(at)darkenedpath.com 
Cartersville, GA, US 
 
MattKelly 
Trolls 
Matthew Kelly 
kelly058(at)verizon.net 
Fredericksburg, VA, US 
 
melisasilem 
Hobbits 
Melisa Baterbonia 
melisabaterbonia(at)me.com 
Seattle, WA, US 
 
ndeily 
Leprechauns 
Nathan Deily 
ndeily(at)yahoo.com 
Seattle, WA, US 
 
Nobunaga 
Wizards 
Philip Martell 
nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, ON, CA 
 
Operations 
Elves 
Bryan Laferriere 
operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com 
Worcester, MA, US 
 
rosswebb 
Centaurs 
Ross Webb 
rossjwebb(at)gmail.com 
Minehead, SOM, UK 
 
sandiegosmith 
Magicians 
Mark Smith 
sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com 
San Diego, CA, US 
 
tarakashka 
Gnomes 
ilya guzman 
tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com 
New York, NY, US 
 
waschlappen 
Ogres 
Rolf Loschek 
rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de 
Koeln / Cologne, Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  alwayshunted Aug 12, 12:08 pm | 
Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside handed to me in the last one though...... 
Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
Warren 
On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
 
Hey All,  
I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September.Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
Welcome to all. This is always a fun map.And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself on this map.Warren however has finished better then I have though   
Jason  
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims  wrote: 
     
 
  
  
 
  
 
Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  Wow can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  To put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 later this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is new... Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the past iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of my nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of eager new players too.  Should be exciting!   
  
Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You can always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in ahead of time.   
  
So by... 
  
Wednesday August 14 
  
Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline officially at: 
  
Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
  
Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.  Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware of this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the deadline, your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack up NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will beat you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let this happen - it's not worth it. 
  
What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house rules can be found here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you get a minute. 
  
If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  Or even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
  
Enjoy! 
-mike 
  
 
 
ID 
Country 
Name 
Email 
Location 
AFreakyName 
Undead 
Tom Holmes 
tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com 
Ottawa, ON, CA 
alwayshunted 
Archers 
Warren Fleming 
alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com 
Alberta Beach, AB, CA 
BaronVonPWN 
Shades 
Patrick Cloutier 
patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, Stavropol Krai, RU 
briandiffell 
Barbarians 
Brian Diffell 
diplomacy(at)diffell.net 
Alexandria, VA, US 
Corrino 
Faeries 
Chris Morse 
camorse22(at)yahoo.com 
Boston, MA, US 
DonovanHowe 
Nomads 
Donovan Howe 
howe.donovan(at)gmail.com 
Hempstead, NY, US 
garry.bledsoe 
Pirates 
Garry Bledsoe 
kielmarch(at)hotmail.com 
Charlotte, NC, US 
Githraine 
Knights 
Jason K 
Githraine(at)yahoo.com 
Havertown, PA, US 
jgramoll 
Dwarves 
Jim Gramoll 
jgramoll(at)gramoll.com 
 
Joral 
Rogues 
Justin Card 
joral(at)darkenedpath.com 
Cartersville, GA, US 
MattKelly 
Trolls 
Matthew Kelly 
kelly058(at)verizon.net 
Fredericksburg, VA, US 
melisasilem 
Hobbits 
Melisa Baterbonia 
melisabaterbonia(at)me.com 
Seattle, WA, US 
ndeily 
Leprechauns 
Nathan Deily 
ndeily(at)yahoo.com 
Seattle, WA, US 
Nobunaga 
Wizards 
Philip Martell 
nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, ON, CA 
Operations 
Elves 
Bryan Laferriere 
operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com 
Worcester, MA, US 
rosswebb 
Centaurs 
Ross Webb 
rossjwebb(at)gmail.com 
Minehead, SOM, UK 
sandiegosmith 
Magicians 
Mark Smith 
sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com 
San Diego, CA, US 
tarakashka 
Gnomes 
ilya guzman 
tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com 
New York, NY, US 
waschlappen 
Ogres 
Rolf Loschek 
rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de 
Koeln / Cologne, Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  Githraine Aug 12, 12:19 pm | 
Warren, sorry to say it is true.You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw.I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
So yeah, you win.Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, so he has us both beat...    
Sir Jason 
  
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  wrote: 
     
 
 Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside handed to me in the last one though...... 
Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
Warren 
On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
 
Hey All,  
I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September.Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can find a signal (I think the 
 lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
Welcome to all. This is always a fun map.And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself on this map.Warren however has finished better then I have though   
Jason  
 
    
  On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims  wrote: 
     
 
  
 
Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  Wow can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  To put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 later this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is new... Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the past iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of my nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of eager new players too.  Should be exciting!   
  
Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You can always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in ahead of time.   
  
So by... 
  
Wednesday August 14 
  
Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline officially at: 
  
Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
  
Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.  Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware of this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the deadline, your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack up NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will beat you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let this happen - it's not worth it. 
  
What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house rules can be found here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you get a minute. 
  
If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  Or even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
  
Enjoy! 
-mike 
  
 
IDCountryNameEmailLocationAFreakyNameUndeadTom Holmestom.s.holmes(at)gmail.comOttawa, ON, CAalwayshuntedArchersWarren Flemingalwayshunted(at)hotmail.comAlberta Beach, AB, CABaronVonPWNShadesPatrick Cloutierpatrickccloutier(at)gmail.comStavropol, Stavropol Krai, RUbriandiffellBarbariansBrian Diffelldiplomacy(at)diffell.netAlexandria, VA, USCorrinoFaeriesChris Morsecamorse22(at)yahoo.comBoston, MA, USDonovanHoweNomadsDonovan Howehowe.donovan(at)gmail.comHempstead, NY, USgarry.bledsoePiratesGarry Bledsoekielmarch(at)hotmail.comCharlotte, NC, USGithraineKnightsJason KGithraine(at)yahoo.comHavertown, PA, USjgramollDwarvesJim Gramolljgramoll(at)gramoll.comJoralRoguesJustin Cardjoral(at)darkenedpath.comCartersville, GA, USMattKellyTrollsMatthew Kellykelly058(at)verizon.netFredericksburg, VA, USmelisasilemHobbitsMelisa Baterboniamelisabaterbonia(at)me.comSeattle, WA, USndeilyLeprechaunsNathan Deilyndeily(at)yahoo.comSeattle, WA, USNobunagaWizardsPhilip Martellnobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.comToronto, ON, CAOperationsElvesBryan Laferriereoperationsx_2000(at)yahoo.comWorcester, MA, USrosswebbCentaursRoss Webbrossjwebb(at)gmail.comMinehead, SOM, UKsandiegosmithMagiciansMark Smithsandiegosmith(at)hotmail.comSan Diego, CA, UStarakashkaGnomesilya guzmantarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.comNew York, NY, USwaschlappenOgresRolf Loschekrolfloschek(at)yahoo.deKoeln / Cologne, Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  briandiffell Aug 12, 02:01 pm | 
Hey now, it's fine to paint targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
painting them on anyone else's   
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  wrote: 
Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
 
So yeah, you win. 
Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
so 
he has us both beat...??   
 
Sir Jason 
 
 
 
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
wrote: 
  
 
 
Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside 
handed 
to me in the last one though...... 
 
Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.?? 
 
Warren 
 
On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
 
 
Hey All,  
> 
>I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September. 
>Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can 
>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
> 
> 
>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself 
on 
>this map. 
>Warren however has finished better then I have though   
> 
> 
>Jason 
> 
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims 
> wrote: 
>  
> 
> 
Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!?? 
Wow 
can you believe 8 games.?? I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.?? 
To 
put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and??a new 
baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 
later 
this month.?? My how time flies.?? But I reminisce!?? For this game is 
new... 
Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in??many of the 
past 
iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... 
several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of 
my 
nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of 
eager 
new players too.?? Should be exciting!??  
?? 
Here's your civilizations.?? For the first turn, I??require a set of 
prelims.?? For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.?? Why not??? You 
can 
always change them later.?? But I do like the first turn to be 100% in 
ahead 
of time.??  
?? 
So by... 
?? 
Wednesday August 14 
?? 
Send me a set of orders.?? Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline 
officially 
at: 
?? 
Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
?? 
Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.?? 
Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.?? Please be aware 
of 
this!?? I am notorious for just running a turn.?? If you miss the 
deadline, 
your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
up 
NMRs, and that is never a good thing.?? You won't get invited to exciting 
new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're 
particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will 
beat 
you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.?? Don't let 
this 
happen - it's not worth it. 
?? 
What else.?? I think that's about it.?? My usual house rules can be found 
here ? www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.?? Read them thru when you 
get 
a minute. 
?? 
If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.?? Whether it's about 
the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build 
centers, whatever.?? Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!?? 
Or 
even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you 
didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
?? 
Enjoy! 
-mike 
?? 
ID Country Name Email Location  
AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com Ottawa, ON, CA  
alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com Alberta 
Beach, AB, CA  
BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, 
Stavropol Krai, RU  
briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net Alexandria, 
VA, US  
Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com Boston, MA, US  
DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com Hempstead, NY, US 
garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com Charlotte, NC, 
US  
Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com Havertown, PA, US  
jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com   
Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com Cartersville, GA, US  
MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net Fredericksburg, VA, 
US  
melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com Seattle, 
WA, 
US  
ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com Seattle, WA, US  
Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, 
ON, CA  
Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com Worcester, 
MA, US  
rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com Minehead, SOM, UK  
sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com San Diego, 
CA, US  
tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com New York, 
NY, 
US  
waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de Koeln / Cologne, 
Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  Githraine Aug 12, 02:07 pm | 
Hey now,  
It is all public information, I am just saying, you know?   And talking about how poorly Warren and I have done in the past is (I hope) not painting targets.You on the other hand, did what we thought was nigh impossible.  You proved that you can solo this map!That should be celebrated! 
And that has to be the oddest pre-game trash talk I have ever uttered!!! 
Jason 
 
 
     On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:01 PM, "diplomacy(at)diffell.net"  wrote: 
     
 
 Hey now, it's fine to paint targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
painting them on anyone else's   
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  wrote: 
> Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
> You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
> I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
>  
> So yeah, you win. 
> Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
so 
> he has us both beat...    
>  
> Sir Jason 
>  
>  
>  
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
> wrote: 
>   
>  
>  
> Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside 
handed 
> to me in the last one though...... 
>  
> Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
>  
> Warren 
>  
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
>  
>  
> Hey All,  
>> 
>>I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September. 
>>Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be 
 able to e-mail, if I can 
>>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
>> 
>> 
>>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
>>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself 
on 
>>this map. 
>>Warren however has finished better then I have though   
>> 
>> 
>>Jason 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims 
>> wrote: 
>>  
>> 
>> 
> Here we go, the 
 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  
Wow 
> can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  
To 
> put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new 
> baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 
later 
> this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is 
new... 
> Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the 
past 
> iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... 
> several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of 
my 
> nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of 
eager 
> new players too.  Should be exciting!   
>   
> Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of 
> prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You 
can 
> always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in 
ahead 
> of time.   
>   
> So by... 
>   
> Wednesday August 14 
>   
> Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline 
officially 
> at: 
>   
> Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
>   
> Once we are out of the first year, I 
 will not hound people for orders.  
> Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware 
of 
> this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the 
deadline, 
> your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
up 
> NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting 
> new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're 
> particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will 
beat 
> you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let 
this 
> happen - it's not worth it. 
>   
> What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house 
 rules can be found 
> here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you 
get 
> a minute. 
>   
> If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about 
> the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build 
> centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  
Or 
> even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you 
> didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
>   
> Enjoy! 
> -mike 
>   
> ID Country Name Email Location  
> AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com Ottawa, ON, CA  
> alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com Alberta 
> Beach, AB, CA  
> BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, 
> Stavropol Krai, RU  
> briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net Alexandria, 
> VA, US  
> Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com Boston, MA, US  
> DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com Hempstead, NY, US 
 
> garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com Charlotte, NC, 
> US  
> Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com Havertown, PA, US  
> jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com   
> Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com Cartersville, GA, US  
> MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net Fredericksburg, VA, 
US  
> melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com Seattle, 
WA, 
> US  
> ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com Seattle, WA, US  
> Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, 
> ON, CA  
> Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com Worcester, 
> MA, US  
> rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com Minehead, SOM, UK  
> sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com San Diego, 
> CA, US  
> tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com New York, 
NY, 
> US  
> waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de Koeln / Cologne, 
> Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  tarakashka Aug 12, 02:26 pm | 
Greetings, 
 
     
 
    I thereby dub the young knight, Sir Jason "Snowden" K - seeing how 
    he is leaking all kind of information all over the Heaven.  I would 
    offer him residence in my cozy establishment, but it seems like he 
    has a country of his own ... at the moment, anyway... and I guess 
    it's just as well, considering the number of odd looking creatures 
    with very sharp objects roaming the surface and guts of our Mother 
    Heaven.  
 
     
 
    I wish you all well and hope you will stay away from the traps... 
 
     
 
    Ilya the brave Gnome 
 
     
 
    On 8/12/2014 3:07 PM, Jason K wrote: 
 
     
     
       
        Hey now,  
 
           
        It 
            is all public information, I am just saying, you know?    
        And 
            talking about how poorly Warren and I have done in the past 
            is (I hope) not painting targets. 
        You 
            on the other hand, did what we thought was nigh impossible.  
            You proved that you can solo this map! 
        That 
            should be celebrated! 
         
 
           
        And 
            that has to be the oddest pre-game trash talk I have ever 
            uttered!!! 
         
 
           
        Jason 
 
           
         
 
           
 
         
         
           
             
                On Tuesday, 
                  August 12, 2014 3:01 PM, "diplomacy(at)diffell.net" 
                   wrote: 
 
                  
               
 
               
 
              Hey now, it's fine to paint 
                targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
 
                painting them on anyone else's   
 
                 
 
                  On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  
                  wrote: 
 
                  > Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
 
                  > You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
 
                  > I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
 
                  >  
 
                  > So yeah, you win. 
 
                  > Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 
                  Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
 
                  so 
 
                  > he has us both beat...    
 
                  >  
 
                  > Sir Jason 
 
                  >  
 
                  >  
 
                  >  
 
                  > On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
 
                  > wrote: 
 
                  >   
 
                  >  
 
                  >  
 
                  > Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I 
                  sure got my backside 
 
                  handed 
 
                  > to me in the last one though...... 
 
                  >  
 
                  > Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on 
                  this map.  
 
                  >  
 
                  > Warren 
 
                  >  
 
                  > On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  
                  wrote: 
 
                  >  
 
                  >  
 
                  > Hey All,  
 
                  >> 
 
                  >>I will be out of town from friday until the 
                  beginning of September. 
 
                  >>Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be 
                  able to e-mail, if I can 
 
                  >>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on 
                  has some connectivity) 
 
                  >> 
 
                  >> 
 
                  >>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
 
                  >>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt 
                  for both Warren and myself 
 
                  on 
 
                  >>this map. 
 
                  >>Warren however has finished better then I have 
                  though   
 
                  >> 
 
                  >> 
 
                  >>Jason 
 
                  >> 
 
                  >> 
 
                  >> 
 
                  >>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael 
                  Sims 
 
                  >> 
                  wrote: 
 
                  >>  
 
                  >> 
 
                  >> 
 
                  > Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven 
                  Diplomacy is about to begin!  
 
                  Wow 
 
                  > can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of 
                  them and ran the other 6.  
 
                  To 
 
                  > put that in perspective, when I made this map I 
                  had one son and a new 
 
                  > baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of 
                  which is turning 3 
 
                  later 
 
                  > this month.  My how time flies.  But I 
                  reminisce!  For this game is 
 
                  new... 
 
                  > Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have 
                  played in many of the 
 
                  past 
 
                  > iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there 
                  having played in 6)... 
 
                  > several veterans of the hobby who are new to this 
                  board, quite a few of 
 
                  my 
 
                  > nemeses that I dread running into across the 
                  table, and a good mix of 
 
                  eager 
 
                  > new players too.  Should be exciting!   
 
                  >   
 
                  > Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, 
                  I require a set of 
 
                  > prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them 
                  *now*.  Why not?  You 
 
                  can 
 
                  > always change them later.  But I do like the 
                  first turn to be 100% in 
 
                  ahead 
 
                  > of time.   
 
                  >   
 
                  > So by... 
 
                  >   
 
                  > Wednesday August 14 
 
                  >   
 
                  > Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the 
                  Spring 01 deadline 
 
                  officially 
 
                  > at: 
 
                  >   
 
                  > Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
 
                  >   
 
                  > Once we are out of the first year, I will not 
                  hound people for orders.  
 
                  > Tho you should always use prelims, it is not 
                  required.  Please be aware 
 
                  of 
 
                  > this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  
                  If you miss the 
 
                  deadline, 
 
                  > your units will all stand around and do 
                  absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
 
                  up 
 
                  > NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't 
                  get invited to exciting 
 
                  > new games, you won't be allowed to wear 
                  sunglasses that imply you're 
 
                  > particularly cool, your friends will shun you, 
                  and someone else will 
 
                  beat 
 
                  > you to every good parking spot for the rest of 
                  your life.  Don't let 
 
                  this 
 
                  > happen - it's not worth it. 
 
                  >   
 
                  > What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual 
                  house rules can be found 
 
                  > here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  
                  Read them thru when you 
 
                  get 
 
                  > a minute. 
 
                  >   
 
                  > If you have questions about the map, be sure to 
                  ask.  Whether it's about 
 
                  > the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the 
                  underworld, the eternal build 
 
                  > centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key 
                  to winning this game!  
 
                  Or 
 
                  > even more importantly, it's key to not getting 
                  wiped out by a move you 
 
                  > didn't expect because you didn't know it was even 
                  possible. 
 
                  >   
 
                  > Enjoy! 
 
                  > -mike 
 
                  >   
 
                  > ID Country Name Email Location  
 
                  > AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com 
                  Ottawa, ON, CA  
 
                  > alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com 
                  Alberta 
 
                  > Beach, AB, CA  
 
                  > BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
 
                  Stavropol, 
 
                  > Stavropol Krai, RU  
 
                  > briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net 
                  Alexandria, 
 
                  > VA, US  
 
                  > Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com 
                  Boston, MA, US  
 
                  > DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com 
                  Hempstead, NY, US 
 
                   
 
                  > garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com 
                  Charlotte, NC, 
 
                  > US  
 
                  > Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com 
                  Havertown, PA, US  
 
                  > jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com  
                   
 
                  > Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com 
                  Cartersville, GA, US  
 
                  > MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net 
                  Fredericksburg, VA, 
 
                  US  
 
                  > melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com 
                  Seattle, 
 
                  WA, 
 
                  > US  
 
                  > ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com 
                  Seattle, WA, US  
 
                  > Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
 
                  Toronto, 
 
                  > ON, CA  
 
                  > Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com 
                  Worcester, 
 
                  > MA, US  
 
                  > rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com 
                  Minehead, SOM, UK  
 
                  > sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com 
                  San Diego, 
 
                  > CA, US  
 
                  > tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com 
                  New York, 
 
                  NY, 
 
                  > US  
 
                  > waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de 
                  Koeln / Cologne, 
 
                  > Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  rosswebb Aug 14, 08:43 am | 
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| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  Nobunaga Aug 19, 10:05 pm | 
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| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  BaronVonPWN Aug 19, 10:10 pm | 
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| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  FuzzyLogic Aug 19, 10:16 pm | 
Special abilities are not in play!  That was only for the first run.  The Samurai were later renamed to the Shades for thematic reasons... 
-mike 
  
 
 
 
From: Phil Martell [mailto:nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com] 
Sent: Tue 8/19/2014 10:05 PM 
To: Ross Webb 
Cc: Jason Koelewyn; patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com; dc505; operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com; melisabaterbonia(at)me.com; joral(at)darkenedpath.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; howe.donovan(at)gmail.com; tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com; Garry Bledsoe; tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com; jgramoll(at)gramoll.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; Hunted; rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de; diplomacy(at)diffell.net; Michael Sims 
Subject: Re: dc505 Game Start! 
 
 
 
 
Sorry if this is already listed somewhere, but what is the Shades special ability? The only copies of the rules I can find are older ones with Samurai instead of Shades. 
 
Phil  
 
 
 
 
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Ross Webb  wrote: 
 
 
Hi all,  
Good to be in! I've had some internet problems here and just seen the game start, but I'm very happy to be involved! I'll be in touch with people ASAP but, given I'm working 7.30-10.00ish in a children's residential holiday centre (and will be for the next two weeks), I'll probably only be able to talk to neighbours initially. 
Let the chaos begin! =) 
Ross, Centaurs 
 
 
On 12 Aug 2014 20:07, "Jason K"  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
Hey now,  
 
It is all public information, I am just saying, you know?    
And talking about how poorly Warren and I have done in the past is (I hope) not painting targets. 
You on the other hand, did what we thought was nigh impossible.  You proved that you can solo this map! 
That should be celebrated! 
 
 
And that has to be the oddest pre-game trash talk I have ever uttered!!! 
 
 
Jason 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:01 PM, "diplomacy(at)diffell.net"  wrote: 
 
 
 
Hey now, it's fine to paint targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
painting them on anyone else's   
 
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  wrote: 
> Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
> You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
> I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
>  
> So yeah, you win. 
> Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
so 
> he has us both beat...    
>  
> Sir Jason 
>  
>  
>  
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
> wrote: 
>   
>  
>  
> Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside 
handed 
> to me in the last one though...... 
>  
> Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
>  
> Warren 
>  
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
>  
>  
> Hey All,  
>> 
>>I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September. 
>>Since I finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can 
>>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
>> 
>> 
>>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
>>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself 
on 
>>this map. 
>>Warren however has finished better then I have though   
>> 
>> 
>>Jason 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims 
>> wrote: 
>>  
>> 
>> 
> Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  
Wow 
> can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  
To 
> put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new 
> baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 
later 
> this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is 
new... 
> Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the 
past 
> iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... 
> several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of 
my 
> nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of 
eager 
> new players too.  Should be exciting!   
>   
> Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of 
> prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You 
can 
> always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in 
ahead 
> of time.   
>   
> So by... 
>   
> Wednesday August 14 
>   
> Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline 
officially 
> at: 
>   
> Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
>   
> Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.  
> Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware 
of 
> this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the 
deadline, 
> your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
up 
> NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting 
> new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're 
> particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will 
beat 
> you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let 
this 
> happen - it's not worth it. 
>   
> What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house rules can be found 
> here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you 
get 
> a minute. 
>   
> If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about 
> the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build 
> centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  
Or 
> even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you 
> didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
>   
> Enjoy! 
> -mike 
>   
> ID Country Name Email Location  
> AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com Ottawa, ON, CA  
> alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com Alberta 
> Beach, AB, CA  
> BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, 
> Stavropol Krai, RU  
> briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net Alexandria, 
> VA, US  
> Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com Boston, MA, US  
> DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com Hempstead, NY, US 
 
> garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com Charlotte, NC, 
> US  
> Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com Havertown, PA, US  
> jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com   
> Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com Cartersville, GA, US  
> MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net Fredericksburg, VA, 
US  
> melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com Seattle, 
WA, 
> US  
> ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com Seattle, WA, US  
> Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, 
> ON, CA  
> Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com Worcester, 
> MA, US  
> rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com Minehead, SOM, UK  
> sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com San Diego, 
> CA, US  
> tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com New York, 
NY, 
> US  
> waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de Koeln / Cologne, 
> Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
| dc505 Game Start! (dc505)  Operations Aug 19, 10:31 pm | 
Awww.. And here I'd been studying them!  >  
        From: Michael Sims  
 To: Phil Martell ; Ross Webb 
   
Cc: Jason Koelewyn ; patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com; dc505 ; operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com; melisabaterbonia(at)me.com; joral(at)darkenedpath.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; howe.donovan(at)gmail.com; tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com; Garry Bledsoe ; tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com; jgramoll(at)gramoll.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; Hunted ; rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de; diplomacy(at)diffell.net  
 Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:16 PM 
 Subject: RE: dc505 Game Start! 
    
 
 
Special abilities are not in play!  That was only for the first run.  The Samurai were later renamed to the Shades for thematic reasons... 
-mike 
  
 
 
 
From: Phil Martell [mailto:nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com] 
Sent: Tue 8/19/2014 10:05 PM 
To: Ross Webb 
Cc: Jason Koelewyn; patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com; dc505; operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com; melisabaterbonia(at)me.com; joral(at)darkenedpath.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; howe.donovan(at)gmail.com; tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com; Garry Bledsoe; tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com; jgramoll(at)gramoll.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; Hunted; rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de; diplomacy(at)diffell.net; Michael Sims 
Subject: Re: dc505 Game Start! 
 
 
 
 
Sorry if this is already listed somewhere, but what is the Shades special ability? The only copies of the rules I can find are older ones with Samurai instead of Shades. 
 
Phil  
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Ross Webb  wrote: 
 
 
Hi all,  
Good to be in! I've had some internet problems here and just seen the game start, but I'm very happy to be involved! I'll be in touch with people ASAP but, given I'm working 7.30-10.00ish in a children's residential holiday centre (and will be for the next two weeks), I'll probably only be able to talk to neighbours initially. 
Let the chaos begin! =) 
Ross, Centaurs 
 
 
On 12 Aug 2014 20:07, "Jason K"  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
Hey now,  
 
It is all public information, I am just saying, you know?    
And talking about how poorly Warren and I have done in the past is (I hope) not painting targets. 
You on the other hand, did what we thought was nigh impossible.  You proved that you can solo this map! 
That should be celebrated! 
 
 
And that has to be the oddest pre-game trash talk I have ever uttered!!! 
 
 
Jason 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:01 PM, "diplomacy(at)diffell.net"  wrote: 
 
 
 
Hey now, it's fine to paint targets on your own backs but no reason to go 
painting them on anyone else's   
 
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:19:37 -0700, Jason K  wrote: 
> Warren, sorry to say it is true. 
> You have 2 eliminations, 2 survivals and a draw. 
> I have 2 eliminations and 3 survivals.... 
>  
> So yeah, you win. 
> Now Brian has played 3 times and has 1 Elimination, 1 Draw and 1 Solo, 
so 
> he has us both beat...    
>  
> Sir Jason 
>  
>  
>  
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:08 PM, Hunted  
> wrote: 
>   
>  
>  
> Really Jason? I've finished better than you? I sure got my backside 
handed 
> to me in the last one though...... 
>  
> Have a great game everyone! Always a good one on this map.  
>  
> Warren 
>  
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Jason K  wrote: 
>  
>  
> Hey All,  
>> 
>>I will be out of town from friday until the beginning of September. 
>>Since I 
 finally have a smart phone, I will be able to e-mail, if I can 
>>find a signal (I think the lake we will be on has some connectivity) 
>> 
>> 
>>Welcome to all. This is always a fun map. 
>>And for the record, this is the 6th attempt for both Warren and myself 
on 
>>this map. 
>>Warren however has finished better then I have though   
>> 
>> 
>>Jason 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:33 AM, Michael Sims 
>> wrote: 
>>  
>> 
>> 
> Here we go, the 8th edition of the Haven Diplomacy is about to begin!  
Wow 
> can you believe 8 games.  I've played in 2 of them and ran the other 6.  
To 
> put that in perspective, when I made this map I had one son and a new 
> baby... and now, we have 4 kids, the youngest of which is turning 3 
later 
> this month.  My how time flies.  But I reminisce!  For this game is 
new... 
> Our lineup has some seasoned veterans who have played in many of the 
past 
> iterations (I think Warren leads the pack there having played in 6)... 
> several veterans of the hobby who are new to this board, quite a few of 
my 
> 
 nemeses that I dread running into across the table, and a good mix of 
eager 
> new players too.  Should be exciting!   
>   
> Here's your civilizations.  For the first turn, I require a set of 
> prelims.  For simplicity's sake, just send them *now*.  Why not?  You 
can 
> always change them later.  But I do like the first turn to be 100% in 
ahead 
> of time.   
>   
> So by... 
>   
> Wednesday August 14 
>   
> Send me a set of orders.  Then we'll set the Spring 01 deadline 
officially 
> at: 
>   
> Wednesday August 20, 12 noon Central. 
>   
> Once we are out of the first year, I will not hound people for orders.  
> Tho you should always use prelims, it is not required.  Please be aware 
of 
> this!  I am notorious for just running a turn.  If you miss the 
deadline, 
> your units will all stand around and do absolutely nothing, you'll rack 
up 
> NMRs, and that is never a good thing.  You won't get invited to exciting 
> new games, you won't be allowed to wear sunglasses that imply you're 
> particularly cool, your friends will shun you, and someone else will 
beat 
> you to every good parking spot for the rest of your life.  Don't let 
this 
> happen - it's not worth it. 
> 
   
> What else.  I think that's about it.  My usual house rules can be found 
> here:  www.sims-family.net/dip/houserules.htm.  Read them thru when you 
get 
> a minute. 
>   
> If you have questions about the map, be sure to ask.  Whether it's about 
> the wrap, the islands, the rivers, the underworld, the eternal build 
> centers, whatever.  Knowing the map is pretty key to winning this game!  
Or 
> even more importantly, it's key to not getting wiped out by a move you 
> didn't expect because you didn't know it was even possible. 
>   
> Enjoy! 
> -mike 
>   
> ID Country Name Email Location  
> AFreakyName Undead Tom Holmes tom.s.holmes(at)gmail.com Ottawa, ON, CA  
> alwayshunted Archers Warren Fleming alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com Alberta 
> Beach, AB, CA  
> BaronVonPWN Shades Patrick Cloutier patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com 
Stavropol, 
> Stavropol Krai, RU  
> briandiffell Barbarians Brian Diffell diplomacy(at)diffell.net Alexandria, 
> VA, US  
> Corrino Faeries Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com Boston, MA, US  
> DonovanHowe Nomads Donovan Howe howe.donovan(at)gmail.com Hempstead, NY, US 
 
> garry.bledsoe Pirates Garry Bledsoe kielmarch(at)hotmail.com Charlotte, NC, 
> US  
> Githraine Knights Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com Havertown, PA, US  
> jgramoll Dwarves Jim Gramoll jgramoll(at)gramoll.com   
> Joral Rogues Justin Card joral(at)darkenedpath.com Cartersville, GA, US  
> MattKelly Trolls Matthew Kelly kelly058(at)verizon.net Fredericksburg, VA, 
US  
> melisasilem Hobbits Melisa Baterbonia melisabaterbonia(at)me.com Seattle, 
WA, 
> US  
> ndeily Leprechauns Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com Seattle, WA, US  
> Nobunaga Wizards Philip Martell nobunaga.oda.1534.1582(at)gmail.com 
Toronto, 
> ON, CA  
> Operations Elves Bryan Laferriere operationsx_2000(at)yahoo.com Worcester, 
> MA, US  
> rosswebb Centaurs Ross Webb rossjwebb(at)gmail.com Minehead, SOM, UK  
> sandiegosmith Magicians Mark Smith sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com San Diego, 
> CA, US  
> tarakashka Gnomes ilya guzman tarakashka.diplomacy(at)gmail.com New York, 
NY, 
> US  
> waschlappen Ogres Rolf Loschek rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de Koeln / Cologne, 
> Nordrheinwestfalen, DE | 
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