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Dc 402: Fall 1908 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 13, 2012, 7:26 pm)
French solo fails.  Austria and Russia both live to fight another year while France picks up 3 more centers.
If you care to mark your autumn orders as final I will adjudicate when I have them.


Next Deadline:

Autumn 1908 is due Thursday March 15th at Midnight GMT

French A Silesia can retreat to Warsaw or Bohemia.
Austrian A Tyrolia can retreat to Bohemia.

Orders:
Austria:
A Tyrolia Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Vienna Hold

France:
F Denmark - Baltic Sea    (GM Note: Denmark was ordered twice, as per GM rule the last order received in the email was taken)
F Helgoland Bight, no move received
A Holland - Kiel
A Munich Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Ruhr Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Silesia - Berlin (*Dislodged*)
F Skagerrak - Denmark
F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis (*Cut*)
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea

Germany:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
A Kiel Supports A Berlin (*Disbanded*)
A Moscow Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Sweden Hold

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Rome - Tuscany
A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia

Russia:
F Norway - Sweden (*Fails*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Albania Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
A Budapest - Rumania
A Galicia - Silesia
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
A Prussia Supports A Galicia - Silesia
A Serbia Supports A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway (*Void*)

[Reply]

Dc 402: Fall 1908 Adjudication (dc402) Blueraider0 Mar 13, 08:20 pm
Actually, Ska got two orders, NOT Den.  Alan, can you confirm that?




On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



French solo fails.  Austria and Russia both live to fight another year while France picks up 3 more centers.
If you care to mark your autumn orders as final I will adjudicate when I have them.


Next Deadline:


Autumn 1908 is due Thursday March 15th at Midnight GMT

French A Silesia can retreat to Warsaw or Bohemia.
Austrian A Tyrolia can retreat to Bohemia.

Orders:
Austria:
A Tyrolia Hold (*Dislodged*)

A Vienna Hold

France:
F Denmark - Baltic Sea    (GM Note: Denmark was ordered twice, as per GM rule the last order received in the email was taken)
F Helgoland Bight, no move received
A Holland - Kiel

A Munich Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Ruhr Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Silesia - Berlin (*Dislodged*)
F Skagerrak - Denmark
F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis (*Cut*)

F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea

Germany:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
A Kiel Supports A Berlin (*Disbanded*)
A Moscow Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Sweden Hold


Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Rome - Tuscany
A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia

Russia:
F Norway - Sweden (*Fails*)


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Albania Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
A Budapest - Rumania
A Galicia - Silesia
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)

A Prussia Supports A Galicia - Silesia
A Serbia Supports A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway (*Void*)






--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
Dc 402: Fall 1908 Adjudication (dc402) AlanRFarrington Mar 13, 10:48 pm
Oops, sorry did it real quick.  Thats' correct Ska was ordered twice, second order got precedent.

--Alan

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:20:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Dc 402: Fall 1908 Adjudication
From: blueraider0(at)gmail.com
To: alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com
CC: dc402(at)diplomaticcorp.com; zeclient(at)hotmail.com; david.d.ellsworth(at)gmail.com; sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com; stewartnairn(at)live.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; screwtape777(at)gmail.com

Actually, Ska got two orders, NOT Den.  Alan, can you confirm that?




On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



French solo fails.  Austria and Russia both live to fight another year while France picks up 3 more centers.
If you care to mark your autumn orders as final I will adjudicate when I have them.


Next Deadline:


Autumn 1908 is due Thursday March 15th at Midnight GMT

French A Silesia can retreat to Warsaw or Bohemia.
Austrian A Tyrolia can retreat to Bohemia.

Orders:
Austria:
A Tyrolia Hold (*Dislodged*)

A Vienna Hold

France:
F Denmark - Baltic Sea    (GM Note: Denmark was ordered twice, as per GM rule the last order received in the email was taken)
F Helgoland Bight, no move received
A Holland - Kiel

A Munich Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Ruhr Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Silesia - Berlin (*Dislodged*)
F Skagerrak - Denmark
F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis (*Cut*)

F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea

Germany:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel (*Cut*)
A Kiel Supports A Berlin (*Disbanded*)
A Moscow Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Sweden Hold


Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Rome - Tuscany
A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia

Russia:
F Norway - Sweden (*Fails*)


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Albania Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
A Budapest - Rumania
A Galicia - Silesia
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)

A Prussia Supports A Galicia - Silesia
A Serbia Supports A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway (*Void*)






--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
Dc 402: Summer 1908 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 07, 2012, 8:58 pm)
Wow I had to go all the way back to 1904 to find a summer adjudication I could copy-pasta

Orders:
France:
F Ionian Sea - Tunis


Next Deadline
Fall
1908 is due Monday, March 12th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm EST)

Cheers,
Alan
Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Spring 1908 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 07, 2012, 2:42 pm)
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First things first -- all of the proposals failed, it seems no one is quite ready to stop playing yet.  and who can blame them with the fun we're having?  Germany slips a fleet into the North Atlantic unseen as if it were a submarine.  France takes Denmark through shear force.  Turkey and Germany trade Moscow and St. Petersburg.

We also have yet another proposal--for a French solo.  Votes due with Fall orders.

French F Ionian Sea can retreat to Tunis or Apulia.
Alex get this to me marked final and I'll adjudicate immediately.


Next
Deadline:
Summer 1908 is due no later than March 8th at Midnight GMT.

Orders:
Austria:
A Tyrolia - Trieste (*Fails*)
A Vienna Supports A Tyrolia - Trieste

France:
A Burgundy - Munich
F Helgoland Bight Supports F North Sea - Denmark
A Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea Supports F Trieste - Adriatic Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Silesia
F North Sea - Denmark
A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
A Ruhr Supports A Holland - Kiel
F Skagerrak Supports F North Sea - Denmark
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Ionian Sea
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Ionian Sea (*Fails*)

Germany:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Denmark Supports A Kiel (*Disbanded*)
A Kiel Supports A Denmark (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea - North Atlantic Ocean
F Sweden Supports A Denmark
A Warsaw - Moscow

Italy:
F Apulia - Naples
F Naples - Rome
A Rome - Venice
F Trieste - Adriatic Sea
A Venice - Trieste

Russia:
F Norway Hold

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Albania Supports A Venice - Trieste
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Greece Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Livonia - Prussia
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Rumania - Budapest
A Serbia Supports A Venice - Trieste
A Ukraine - Galicia



See you all soon,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Winter 1907 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Mar 01, 2012, 6:25 pm)
Now lets see if I got this correct.  There was a lot of banter to weed through in order to find everything.  There was a FGIT, a DIAS, and a French solo all unofficially proposed since the last turn.  All of which have been voted down publicly I believe.  If anyone would like to push another proposal, or would like to officially put out a new proposal please let me know.

Next Deadline:
Spring 1908 is due Tuesday, March 6th at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST).


Orders:
Austria:
Remove A Galicia

Italy:
Build F Naples
Build A Rome

Russia:
Remove A Finland


Ownership of Supply Centers:
Austria:   Budapest, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool,
           London, Marseilles, Munich, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Kiel, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Italy:     Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis, Venice.
Russia:    Norway.
Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Moscow,
           Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna.



Thanks all,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Re: - Blueraider0   (Mar 01, 2012, 11:26 am)
Ben,
I see your point in the Med, which is why I opted to move MAO to Wes instead of NAO (which would've been planned to go against Scandinavia, and would've been useful against this rogue German unit).  But that unit, (Which, by the way, was a very good move by Sam) will only harass my lines.  It will be something I can deal with in my own time.  Like I said, I don't expect the solo to pass this turn, just wanted to get the conversation started.  Once I see a solo is actually out of reach, I'll have no problem voting for a draw involving other players.  I hope, by the same token, that if I secure the solo, the surviivng players will vote to give me the solo, which will save time and ensure we end the game agreeably.

Justin,
I'm sorry this game hasn't been much fun for you. I can point you to your e-mail signature: 
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.  But also, I commend you for not NMRing.  Lesser players would become frustrated and decide to walk away.  Good dedication.

Actually, fun fact - we've had NO NMRs, despite France being kicked early and Italy being paralyzed for much of the game.  Actually, as I recall, I think there was an NMR.  Well, none that've been recorded on the game site on DC.  Maybe I'm wrong.  But if not, that's damn impressive!

-Maslow

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com> wrote:

For what it's worth, at this point I will vote yes to anything.  This has been

probably the most frustrating game of diplomacy I have ever played, and I want it

ended.



---

Justin

--

Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.



On 01.03.2012 05:15, Benjamin Hester wrote:

Not going to happen.  You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets

short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't afford

to divert them from the north in time.  Turkish/Italian fleets

outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean.  Venice is also beyond your

reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy can

ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.



Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two fleets

in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped

through the net.  So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get

to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it

should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power

again.



Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on

board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils to

them in order to keep the alliance together.  So I won't be walking

away with a solo either.



As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world.  You will

surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,

and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year.  That

said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult

circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in the

draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with

the FGIT.  They've earned it.



Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as I

intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them

in the game.  Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany

survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it

happen Smile



All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the

leader on the board, nobody's questioning that.  But the solo is out

of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.



B.



On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com> wrote:

No to both.  Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?

 Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.



General plea to all:  A French solo is inevitable.  This coming year I will

take Tunis.  Germany is mine.  His lack of fleets gives him little hope of

defense.  Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast

enough to pick up the centers.



I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn.  The board looks open.

 But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo,

rather than make the game drag out.  After all, at that point Scandinavia

and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.



Regards,

-Maslow



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>

wrote:



Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington

<alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

> First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its

> long

> awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself

> up

> to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.

>

>

> Next Deadline:

> Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT

>

>

> Austria:

> A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)

> A Trieste - Vienna

> A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)

>

> France:

> A Burgundy Supports A Munich

> A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea

> F Holland - Helgoland Bight

> F Ionian Sea Hold

> F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean

> A Munich Hold

> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland

> A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice

> A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Germany:

> F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea

> A Berlin Supports A Kiel

> A Denmark Supports A Kiel

> A Kiel Supports A Denmark

> F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

> A Warsaw Hold

>

> Italy:

> F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea

> A Rome - Venice

>

> Russia:

> A Finland, no move received

> F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Turkey:

> F Aegean Sea - Greece

> A Bulgaria - Rumania

> F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Greece - Albania

> A Moscow - Livonia

> A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> A Sevastopol - Moscow

> A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania

>

>

>

> Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1

> England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0

> France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0

> Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0

> Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2

> Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1

> Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0

>









--

"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.

Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know

the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to

the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a

passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.

And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the

stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too

small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know

now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they

didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"

"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting

for."






--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

[Reply]

Re: - Joral   (Mar 01, 2012, 5:35 am)
For what it's worth, at this point I will vote yes to anything. This
has been
probably the most frustrating game of diplomacy I have ever played, and
I want it
ended.
---
Justin
--
Certainly the game is rigged. Don???t let that stop you; if you don???t
bet, you can???t win.
On 01.03.2012 05:15, Benjamin Hester wrote:
Not going to happen. You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets
short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't
afford
to divert them from the north in time. Turkish/Italian fleets
outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean. Venice is also beyond your
reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy
can
ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.

Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two
fleets
in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped
through the net. So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get
to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it
should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power
again.

Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on
board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils
to
them in order to keep the alliance together. So I won't be walking
away with a solo either.

As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world. You will
surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,
and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year.
That
said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult
circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in
the
draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with
the FGIT. They've earned it.

Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as
I
intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them
in the game. Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany
survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it
happen Smile

All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the
leader on the board, nobody's questioning that. But the solo is out
of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.

B.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow
wrote:
> No to both. ??Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other
> draw?
> ??Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.
>
> General plea to all: ??A French solo is inevitable. ??This coming year
> I will
> take Tunis. ??Germany is mine. ??His lack of fleets gives him little
> hope of
> defense. ??Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get
> there fast
> enough to pick up the centers.
>
> I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn. ??The board
> looks open.
> ??But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the
> solo,
> rather than make the game drag out. ??After all, at that point
> Scandinavia
> and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.
>
> Regards,
> -Maslow
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester
>
> wrote:
>>
>> Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington
>> wrote:
>> > First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.?? Italy
>> begins its
>> > long
>> > awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.?? Russia sets
>> himself
>> > up
>> > to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.
>> >
>> >
>> > Next Deadline:
>> > Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT
>> >
>> >
>> > Austria:
>> > A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
>> > A Trieste - Vienna
>> > A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
>> >
>> > France:
>> > A Burgundy Supports A Munich
>> > A Edinburgh - Holland
>> > F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
>> > F Holland - Helgoland Bight
>> > F Ionian Sea Hold
>> > F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
>> > A Munich Hold
>> > F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
>> > A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
>> > A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
>> > F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
>> >
>> > Germany:
>> > F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
>> > A Berlin Supports A Kiel
>> > A Denmark Supports A Kiel
>> > A Kiel Supports A Denmark
>> > F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
>> > A Warsaw Hold
>> >
>> > Italy:
>> > F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
>> > F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
>> > A Rome - Venice
>> >
>> > Russia:
>> > A Finland, no move received
>> > F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
>> >
>> > Turkey:
>> > F Aegean Sea - Greece
>> > A Bulgaria - Rumania
>> > F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
>> > F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
>> > F Greece - Albania
>> > A Moscow - Livonia
>> > A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
>> > A Sevastopol - Moscow
>> > A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > AustriaConfused??? Supp?? 2 Unit?? 3 Remove?? 1
>> > EnglandConfused??? Supp?? 0 Unit?? 0 Build?? 0
>> > FranceConfused????? Supp 11 Unit 11 Build?? 0
>> > GermanyConfused??? Supp?? 6 Unit?? 6 Build?? 0
>> > ItalyConfused??????? Supp?? 5 Unit?? 3 Build?? 2
>> > RussiaConfused????? Supp?? 1 Unit?? 2 Remove?? 1
>> > TurkeyConfused????? Supp?? 9 Unit?? 9 Build?? 0
>> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> "It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really
> mattered.
> Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want
> to know
> the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go
> back to
> the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's
> only a
> passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day
> will come.
> And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were
> the
> stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you
> were too
> small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I
> know
> now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only
> they
> didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
> "What are we holding onto, Sam?"
> "That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth
> fighting
> for."

[Reply]

Re: - Kenshi777   (Mar 01, 2012, 4:15 am)
Not going to happen. You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets
short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't afford
to divert them from the north in time. Turkish/Italian fleets
outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean. Venice is also beyond your
reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy can
ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.
Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two fleets
in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped
through the net. So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get
to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it
should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power
again.
Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on
board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils to
them in order to keep the alliance together. So I won't be walking
away with a solo either.
As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world. You will
surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,
and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year. That
said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult
circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in the
draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with
the FGIT. They've earned it.
Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as I
intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them
in the game. Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany
survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it
happen Smile
All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the
leader on the board, nobody's questioning that. But the solo is out
of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.
B.
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow wrote:
No to both.  Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?
 Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.

General plea to all:  A French solo is inevitable.  This coming year I will
take Tunis.  Germany is mine.  His lack of fleets gives him little hope of
defense.  Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast
enough to pick up the centers.

I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn.  The board looks open.
 But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo,
rather than make the game drag out.  After all, at that point Scandinavia
and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.

Regards,
-Maslow

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester
wrote:
>
> Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington
> wrote:
> > First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its
> > long
> > awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself
> > up
> > to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.
> >
> >
> > Next Deadline:
> > Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT
> >
> >
> > Austria:
> > A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
> > A Trieste - Vienna
> > A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
> >
> > France:
> > A Burgundy Supports A Munich
> > A Edinburgh - Holland
> > F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
> > F Holland - Helgoland Bight
> > F Ionian Sea Hold
> > F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
> > A Munich Hold
> > F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
> > A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
> > A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
> > F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
> >
> > Germany:
> > F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
> > A Berlin Supports A Kiel
> > A Denmark Supports A Kiel
> > A Kiel Supports A Denmark
> > F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
> > A Warsaw Hold
> >
> > Italy:
> > F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
> > F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
> > A Rome - Venice
> >
> > Russia:
> > A Finland, no move received
> > F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
> >
> > Turkey:
> > F Aegean Sea - Greece
> > A Bulgaria - Rumania
> > F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
> > F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
> > F Greece - Albania
> > A Moscow - Livonia
> > A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
> > A Sevastopol - Moscow
> > A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
> >
> >
> >
> > Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
> > England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
> > France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0
> > Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0
> > Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2
> > Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1
> > Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0
> >




--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.
Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know
the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to
the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a
passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.
And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the
stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too
small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know
now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they
didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting
for."

[Reply]

Re: - Blueraider0   (Feb 29, 2012, 11:41 pm)
No to both.  Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?  Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.
General plea to all:  A French solo is inevitable.  This coming year I will take Tunis.  Germany is mine.  His lack of fleets gives him little hope of defense.  Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast enough to pick up the centers.

I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn.  The board looks open.  But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo, rather than make the game drag out.  After all, at that point Scandinavia and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.

Regards,-Maslow
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington

<alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

> First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its long

> awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself up

> to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.

>

>

> Next Deadline:

> Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT

>

>

> Austria:

> A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)

> A Trieste - Vienna

> A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)

>

> France:

> A Burgundy Supports A Munich

> A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea

> F Holland - Helgoland Bight

> F Ionian Sea Hold

> F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean

> A Munich Hold

> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland

> A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice

> A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Germany:

> F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea

> A Berlin Supports A Kiel

> A Denmark Supports A Kiel

> A Kiel Supports A Denmark

> F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

> A Warsaw Hold

>

> Italy:

> F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea

> A Rome - Venice

>

> Russia:

> A Finland, no move received

> F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Turkey:

> F Aegean Sea - Greece

> A Bulgaria - Rumania

> F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Greece - Albania

> A Moscow - Livonia

> A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> A Sevastopol - Moscow

> A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania

>

>

>

> Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1

> England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0

> France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0

> Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0

> Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2

> Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1

> Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0

>




--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

[Reply]

Re: - Kenshi777   (Feb 29, 2012, 11:02 pm)
Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington
wrote:
First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its long
awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself up
to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.


Next Deadline:
Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT


Austria:
A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)

France:
A Burgundy Supports A Munich
A Edinburgh - Holland
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
F Ionian Sea Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
A Munich Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

Germany:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Denmark Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Denmark
F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
A Warsaw Hold

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice

Russia:
A Finland, no move received
F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
F Greece - Albania
A Moscow - Livonia
A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania



Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2
Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0

[Reply]

Re: (dc402) Blueraider0 Feb 29, 11:41 pm
No to both.  Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?  Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.
General plea to all:  A French solo is inevitable.  This coming year I will take Tunis.  Germany is mine.  His lack of fleets gives him little hope of defense.  Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast enough to pick up the centers.

I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn.  The board looks open.  But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo, rather than make the game drag out.  After all, at that point Scandinavia and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.

Regards,-Maslow
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington

<alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

> First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its long

> awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself up

> to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.

>

>

> Next Deadline:

> Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT

>

>

> Austria:

> A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)

> A Trieste - Vienna

> A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)

>

> France:

> A Burgundy Supports A Munich

> A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea

> F Holland - Helgoland Bight

> F Ionian Sea Hold

> F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean

> A Munich Hold

> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland

> A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice

> A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Germany:

> F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea

> A Berlin Supports A Kiel

> A Denmark Supports A Kiel

> A Kiel Supports A Denmark

> F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

> A Warsaw Hold

>

> Italy:

> F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea

> A Rome - Venice

>

> Russia:

> A Finland, no move received

> F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Turkey:

> F Aegean Sea - Greece

> A Bulgaria - Rumania

> F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Greece - Albania

> A Moscow - Livonia

> A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> A Sevastopol - Moscow

> A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania

>

>

>

> Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1

> England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0

> France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0

> Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0

> Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2

> Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1

> Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0

>




--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
Re: (dc402) Kenshi777 Mar 01, 04:15 am
Not going to happen. You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets
short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't afford
to divert them from the north in time. Turkish/Italian fleets
outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean. Venice is also beyond your
reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy can
ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.
Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two fleets
in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped
through the net. So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get
to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it
should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power
again.
Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on
board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils to
them in order to keep the alliance together. So I won't be walking
away with a solo either.
As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world. You will
surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,
and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year. That
said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult
circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in the
draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with
the FGIT. They've earned it.
Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as I
intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them
in the game. Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany
survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it
happen Smile
All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the
leader on the board, nobody's questioning that. But the solo is out
of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.
B.
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow wrote:
No to both.  Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?
 Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.

General plea to all:  A French solo is inevitable.  This coming year I will
take Tunis.  Germany is mine.  His lack of fleets gives him little hope of
defense.  Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast
enough to pick up the centers.

I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn.  The board looks open.
 But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo,
rather than make the game drag out.  After all, at that point Scandinavia
and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.

Regards,
-Maslow

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester
wrote:
>
> Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington
> wrote:
> > First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its
> > long
> > awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself
> > up
> > to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.
> >
> >
> > Next Deadline:
> > Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT
> >
> >
> > Austria:
> > A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
> > A Trieste - Vienna
> > A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
> >
> > France:
> > A Burgundy Supports A Munich
> > A Edinburgh - Holland
> > F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
> > F Holland - Helgoland Bight
> > F Ionian Sea Hold
> > F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
> > A Munich Hold
> > F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
> > A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
> > A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
> > F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
> >
> > Germany:
> > F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
> > A Berlin Supports A Kiel
> > A Denmark Supports A Kiel
> > A Kiel Supports A Denmark
> > F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
> > A Warsaw Hold
> >
> > Italy:
> > F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
> > F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
> > A Rome - Venice
> >
> > Russia:
> > A Finland, no move received
> > F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
> >
> > Turkey:
> > F Aegean Sea - Greece
> > A Bulgaria - Rumania
> > F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
> > F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
> > F Greece - Albania
> > A Moscow - Livonia
> > A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
> > A Sevastopol - Moscow
> > A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
> >
> >
> >
> > Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
> > England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
> > France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0
> > Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0
> > Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2
> > Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1
> > Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0
> >




--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.
Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know
the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to
the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a
passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.
And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the
stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too
small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know
now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they
didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting
for."
Re: (dc402) Joral Mar 01, 05:35 am
For what it's worth, at this point I will vote yes to anything. This
has been
probably the most frustrating game of diplomacy I have ever played, and
I want it
ended.
---
Justin
--
Certainly the game is rigged. Don???t let that stop you; if you don???t
bet, you can???t win.
On 01.03.2012 05:15, Benjamin Hester wrote:
Not going to happen. You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets
short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't
afford
to divert them from the north in time. Turkish/Italian fleets
outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean. Venice is also beyond your
reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy
can
ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.

Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two
fleets
in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped
through the net. So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get
to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it
should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power
again.

Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on
board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils
to
them in order to keep the alliance together. So I won't be walking
away with a solo either.

As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world. You will
surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,
and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year.
That
said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult
circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in
the
draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with
the FGIT. They've earned it.

Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as
I
intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them
in the game. Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany
survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it
happen Smile

All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the
leader on the board, nobody's questioning that. But the solo is out
of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.

B.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow
wrote:
> No to both. ??Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other
> draw?
> ??Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.
>
> General plea to all: ??A French solo is inevitable. ??This coming year
> I will
> take Tunis. ??Germany is mine. ??His lack of fleets gives him little
> hope of
> defense. ??Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get
> there fast
> enough to pick up the centers.
>
> I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn. ??The board
> looks open.
> ??But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the
> solo,
> rather than make the game drag out. ??After all, at that point
> Scandinavia
> and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.
>
> Regards,
> -Maslow
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester
>
> wrote:
>>
>> Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington
>> wrote:
>> > First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.?? Italy
>> begins its
>> > long
>> > awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.?? Russia sets
>> himself
>> > up
>> > to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.
>> >
>> >
>> > Next Deadline:
>> > Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT
>> >
>> >
>> > Austria:
>> > A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
>> > A Trieste - Vienna
>> > A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
>> >
>> > France:
>> > A Burgundy Supports A Munich
>> > A Edinburgh - Holland
>> > F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
>> > F Holland - Helgoland Bight
>> > F Ionian Sea Hold
>> > F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
>> > A Munich Hold
>> > F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
>> > A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
>> > A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
>> > F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
>> >
>> > Germany:
>> > F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
>> > A Berlin Supports A Kiel
>> > A Denmark Supports A Kiel
>> > A Kiel Supports A Denmark
>> > F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
>> > A Warsaw Hold
>> >
>> > Italy:
>> > F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
>> > F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
>> > A Rome - Venice
>> >
>> > Russia:
>> > A Finland, no move received
>> > F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
>> >
>> > Turkey:
>> > F Aegean Sea - Greece
>> > A Bulgaria - Rumania
>> > F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
>> > F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
>> > F Greece - Albania
>> > A Moscow - Livonia
>> > A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
>> > A Sevastopol - Moscow
>> > A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > AustriaConfused??? Supp?? 2 Unit?? 3 Remove?? 1
>> > EnglandConfused??? Supp?? 0 Unit?? 0 Build?? 0
>> > FranceConfused????? Supp 11 Unit 11 Build?? 0
>> > GermanyConfused??? Supp?? 6 Unit?? 6 Build?? 0
>> > ItalyConfused??????? Supp?? 5 Unit?? 3 Build?? 2
>> > RussiaConfused????? Supp?? 1 Unit?? 2 Remove?? 1
>> > TurkeyConfused????? Supp?? 9 Unit?? 9 Build?? 0
>> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> "It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really
> mattered.
> Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want
> to know
> the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go
> back to
> the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's
> only a
> passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day
> will come.
> And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were
> the
> stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you
> were too
> small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I
> know
> now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only
> they
> didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
> "What are we holding onto, Sam?"
> "That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth
> fighting
> for."
Re: (dc402) Blueraider0 Mar 01, 11:26 am
Ben,
I see your point in the Med, which is why I opted to move MAO to Wes instead of NAO (which would've been planned to go against Scandinavia, and would've been useful against this rogue German unit).  But that unit, (Which, by the way, was a very good move by Sam) will only harass my lines.  It will be something I can deal with in my own time.  Like I said, I don't expect the solo to pass this turn, just wanted to get the conversation started.  Once I see a solo is actually out of reach, I'll have no problem voting for a draw involving other players.  I hope, by the same token, that if I secure the solo, the surviivng players will vote to give me the solo, which will save time and ensure we end the game agreeably.

Justin,
I'm sorry this game hasn't been much fun for you. I can point you to your e-mail signature: 
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.  But also, I commend you for not NMRing.  Lesser players would become frustrated and decide to walk away.  Good dedication.

Actually, fun fact - we've had NO NMRs, despite France being kicked early and Italy being paralyzed for much of the game.  Actually, as I recall, I think there was an NMR.  Well, none that've been recorded on the game site on DC.  Maybe I'm wrong.  But if not, that's damn impressive!

-Maslow

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com> wrote:

For what it's worth, at this point I will vote yes to anything.  This has been

probably the most frustrating game of diplomacy I have ever played, and I want it

ended.



---

Justin

--

Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.



On 01.03.2012 05:15, Benjamin Hester wrote:

Not going to happen.  You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets

short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't afford

to divert them from the north in time.  Turkish/Italian fleets

outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean.  Venice is also beyond your

reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy can

ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.



Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two fleets

in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped

through the net.  So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get

to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it

should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power

again.



Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on

board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils to

them in order to keep the alliance together.  So I won't be walking

away with a solo either.



As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world.  You will

surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,

and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year.  That

said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult

circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in the

draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with

the FGIT.  They've earned it.



Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as I

intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them

in the game.  Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany

survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it

happen Smile



All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the

leader on the board, nobody's questioning that.  But the solo is out

of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.



B.



On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com> wrote:

No to both.  Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?

 Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.



General plea to all:  A French solo is inevitable.  This coming year I will

take Tunis.  Germany is mine.  His lack of fleets gives him little hope of

defense.  Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast

enough to pick up the centers.



I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn.  The board looks open.

 But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo,

rather than make the game drag out.  After all, at that point Scandinavia

and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.



Regards,

-Maslow



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>

wrote:



Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington

<alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

> First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its

> long

> awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself

> up

> to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.

>

>

> Next Deadline:

> Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT

>

>

> Austria:

> A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)

> A Trieste - Vienna

> A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)

>

> France:

> A Burgundy Supports A Munich

> A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea

> F Holland - Helgoland Bight

> F Ionian Sea Hold

> F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean

> A Munich Hold

> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland

> A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice

> A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland

> F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Germany:

> F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea

> A Berlin Supports A Kiel

> A Denmark Supports A Kiel

> A Kiel Supports A Denmark

> F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

> A Warsaw Hold

>

> Italy:

> F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea

> A Rome - Venice

>

> Russia:

> A Finland, no move received

> F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

>

> Turkey:

> F Aegean Sea - Greece

> A Bulgaria - Rumania

> F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

> F Greece - Albania

> A Moscow - Livonia

> A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

> A Sevastopol - Moscow

> A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania

>

>

>

> Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1

> England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0

> France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0

> Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0

> Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2

> Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1

> Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0

>









--

"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.

Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know

the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to

the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a

passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.

And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the

stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too

small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know

now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they

didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"

"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting

for."






--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
- AlanRFarrington   (Feb 29, 2012, 10:51 am)
First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on.  Italy begins its long awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey.  Russia sets himself up to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.


Next Deadline:

Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT


Austria:
A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)

France:
A Burgundy Supports A Munich
A Edinburgh - Holland
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
F Ionian Sea Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
A Munich Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

Germany:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Denmark Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Denmark
F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
A Warsaw Hold

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice

Russia:
A Finland, no move received
F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
F Greece - Albania
A Moscow - Livonia
A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania



Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
France:    Supp 11 Unit 11 Build  0
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  3 Build  2
Russia:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0

[Reply]

Dc 402: Spring 1907 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 22, 2012, 8:22 pm)
Hello all,

First off the continent of Europe votes "non" to the French solo, and we have another proposal.  F/G/T draw, (I/A) would receive survivals.  Votes are due with the fall adjudication.  Meanwhile turkey and France continue to divide up the remaining centers with France picking up Kiel and Turkey picking up Warsaw.  Most everything else remains the same *yawn.



Next
Deadline:
Fall 1907 and votes are due Monday,  February 27th at Midnight
GMT (7:00pm EST)
(If my pace is too fast for anyone please speak up, I'm assuming that most diplomacy at this point is drying up as it usually does in the middle part of the game)


Orders:
Austria:
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice (*Bounce*)
A Vienna - Galicia

France:
F Belgium - Holland
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Munich
A Edinburgh Hold
F English Channel - North Sea
F Ionian Sea Hold
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Skagerrak
A Ruhr Supports F Belgium - Holland
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Fails*)

Germany:
A Berlin Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Denmark Hold
A Holland - Kiel
A Silesia - Warsaw (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea Supports A Rome - Venice
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice (*Bounce*)

Russia:
A Finland Supports F Norway
F Norway Supports F North Sea - Skagerrak (*Cut*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
F Constantinople Supports F Smyrna - Aegean Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Greece - Bulgaria
A Moscow - Warsaw
A Serbia Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Sevastopol - Moscow
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea
A Ukraine Supports A Moscow - Warsaw



See you all soon,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Winter 1906 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 18, 2012, 6:38 pm)
Hey all,

We must say goodbye to our first player with the end of 1906.  We must say goodbye to David Ellsworth who lasted a pretty long 6 years when you consider that he was kicked off the continent almost as soon as he made shore.

Next Deadline:
Spring 1906 is due Wednesday, February 22nd at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST).


Orders:
England:
Remove F Clyde

France:
Build F Brest
Build F Marseilles

Germany:
Remove F Helgoland Bight

Russia:
Remove A Warsaw

Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Build F Smyrna


Ownership of Supply Centers:

Austria:   Budapest, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London,
           Marseilles, Munich, Paris, Portugal, Spain, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, St Petersburg, Sweden.
Italy:     Naples, Rome, Tunis.
Russia:    Norway, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Moscow,
           Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna.


Thanks all,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Autumn 1906 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 17, 2012, 2:21 pm)
Sorry for the wait,

Next Deadline:

Winter 1904 is due Saturday, February 18th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm
EST)

Don't usually do Saturday deadlines but Im going to make an exception for winter.




Orders:

France:
F Holland - Belgium

Germany:
A Munich - Berlin



Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
England:   Supp  0 Unit  1 Remove  1
France:    Supp 11 Unit  9 Build  2
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  7 Remove  1
Italy:     Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Russia:    Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  7 Build  2



Thanks,

Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Fall 1906 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 14, 2012, 3:35 pm)
And here we go:

1906 sees our first elimination, as the once proud queen of England is paraded through the streets of Paris and given the guillotine!  Thank you for playing David, I hope all is well with you and your framily. If you'd like to be removed from the mailing list please ask.  In other news Turkey spreads into Russia faster than the plague, but have they forgotten the most important rule of warfare? "Never get involved in a landwar in Asia"?  The med stalls again but Austria may have gotten a leg up by taking Tyrolia.

Retreats:

French F Holland can retreat to Belgium.
German A Munich can retreat to Berlin or Bohemia.

Next Deadline:

Autumn 1906 is due Tuesday February 16th at Midnight GMT


Austria:
A Bohemia - Tyrolia
A Trieste Hold
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

England:
F Clyde Hold

France:
A Burgundy Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
A Edinburgh Hold
F English Channel Supports F London - North Sea
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel (*Dislodged*)
F Ionian Sea, no move received
F London - North Sea
A Ruhr - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A Tyrolia - Munich
A Venice Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste

Germany:
A Denmark - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel - Holland
A Kiel - Holland
A Munich - Ruhr (*Dislodged*)
A Silesia, no move received
F St Petersburg(nc) Supports F Sweden - Norway
F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome Supports A Venice

Russia:
A Finland Supports F Norway
F Norway Hold
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Fails*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria - Greece
A Bulgaria - Greece
F Eastern Mediterranean Hold
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Serbia Supports A Trieste
A Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Moscow
A Ukraine - Moscow


Austria:   Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
England:   Supp  0 Unit  1 Remove  1
France:    Supp 11 Unit  9 Build  2
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  7 Remove  1
Italy:     Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Russia:    Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  9 Unit  7 Build  2

[Reply]

Dc 402: Spring 1906 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 09, 2012, 12:50 am)
Hello all,

Lot of interesting stuff happening this spring turn.  The English government is on the run for the time being, rumor has it they're located on a Fleet near Clyde hoping to find a center before the cold long Winter, but that's not enough for the French who has decided Holland looks like an interesting place to visit as well.  Everything stalls in the med for another turn, while 3 armies all try to visit Moscow at the same time.

No Retreats!



Next
Deadline:
Fall 1906 is due Monday, February 13th at Midnight
GMT (7:00pm EST)


Orders:
Austria:
A Bohemia - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Trieste Hold
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

England:
F Clyde Hold

France:
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Brest - English Channel
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea (*Bounce*)
A Marseilles - Burgundy
F North Sea - Holland
A Tyrolia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Cut*)
A Venice Supports A Tyrolia

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Denmark
A Munich Hold
A Silesia, no move received  (GM note: Prussia is not Silesia)
F St Petersburg(nc) Supports F Sweden - Norway (*Cut*)
F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome Supports A Venice

Russia:
A Finland - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Norway Supports A Finland - St Petersburg (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Disbanded*)
A Warsaw - Moscow (*Bounce*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Greece - Serbia
A Rumania Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Ukraine - Moscow (*Bounce*)


See you all soon,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Winter 1905 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 03, 2012, 5:54 pm)
Hey all,

Hope everyone had a terrific groundhogs day.


Next Deadline:
Spring 1906 is due Wednesday, February 8th at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST).


Orders:
Austria:
Remove A Tuscany

France:
Build F Brest
Build A Marseilles

Germany:
Build A Kiel

Russia:
Remove A Prussia

Turkey:
Build A Constantinople



Ownership of Supply Centers:

Austria:   Budapest, Trieste, Vienna.
England:   Edinburgh.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Paris,
           Portugal, Spain, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, St
           Petersburg, Sweden.
Italy:     Naples, Rome, Tunis.
Russia:    Moscow, Norway, Sevastopol, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Rumania,
           Serbia, Smyrna.



Thanks all,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Autumn 1905 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 02, 2012, 11:44 pm)
Well I sure am glad that fall is over!

Next Deadline:

Winter 1905 is due Friday, February 3rd at Midnight GMT (7:00pm
EST)

(Shouldn't be a problem I have most of them already)




Orders:
Austria:
A Tyrolia - Bohemia


Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  3 Unit  4 Remove  1
England:   Supp  1 Unit  1 Build  0
France:    Supp  9 Unit  7 Build  2
Germany:   Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1
Italy:     Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Russia:    Supp  4 Unit  5 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1


Thanks,

Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Fall 1905 Adjudication (Finally?) - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 01, 2012, 8:32 am)
and of course those maps are wrong.  Rewind?  They should be correct now.

Austrian A Tyrolia can retreat to Bohemia.

Next Deadline:
Autumn 1905 is Due February 2nd at Midnight GMT
Before then marked final is preferred.

Orders:
Austria:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice (*Cut*)
A Tuscany - Rome (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia - Venice (*Dislodged*)

England:
F Clyde Hold

France:
A Burgundy - Belgium
F English Channel - North Sea
F Ionian Sea, no move received
A Liverpool Hold
F London Supports F English Channel - North Sea
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia

Germany:
A Berlin - Prussia (*Fails*)
A Bohemia - Silesia
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
F Sweden - Norway (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome Supports A Venice (*Cut*)

Russia:
A Finland Hold
F Norway Hold
A Prussia Supports A Warsaw - Silesia (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Fails*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Greece Hold
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Serbia - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia

[Reply]

Dc 402: Fall 1905 Adjudication Corrections (correc... - AlanRFarrington   (Feb 01, 2012, 8:27 am)
Edit: miss-clicked an Italy order when trying to fix them.  Double checked my Italy & Austria orders just to make sure this time.
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste (*Fails*)
Which changes it from a French retreat to an Austrian retreat.




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I was quite sick last night when I came out with the adjudication, so there were numerous errors.  Gonna redo the whole adjudication.  Still pretty foggy headed though so we'll see how V2 goes..

Austrian A Tyrolia can retreat to Bohemia.
I'll set the deadline as Thursday February 2nd at Midnight but if you can get it to me earlier marked Final I'll adjudicate then (assuming there isn't any difference


Austria:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tuscany - Rome (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia - Venice

England:
F Clyde Hold

France:
A Burgundy - Belgium
F English Channel - North Sea
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Liverpool Hold
F London Supports F English Channel - North Sea
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)

Germany:
A Berlin - Prussia (*Fails*)
A Bohemia - Silesia
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
F Sweden - Norway (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea Supports F Ionian Sea
F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
A Rome Supports A Venice (*Cut*)

Russia:
A Finland Hold
F Norway Hold
A Prussia Supports A Warsaw - Silesia (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Fails*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Greece Hold
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Serbia - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia


Austria:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
England:   Supp  2 Unit  1 Build  1
France:    Supp  7 Unit  7 Build  0
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  5 Build  0
Turkey:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1

[Reply]

Dc 402: Fall 1905 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Jan 31, 2012, 8:07 pm)
Hey all,

After 5 long years of conflict between the French and the English London finally falls to the French.  The English queen was safely transported to Edinburgh but French troops were behind her all the way.  Austria trades Tyrolia back to France in exchange for Venice.

French F Ionian Sea can retreat to Tunis or Tyrrhenian Sea or
           Naples or Albania or Greece.
French A Venice can retreat to Piedmont.



Next
Deadline:
Autumn 1905 is due Wednesday, February 1st at Midnight
GMT (7:00pm EST)
(Get them to me marked final and I'll adjudicate early)


Orders:
Austria:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tuscany - Rome (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia - Venice

England:
F Clyde Hold

France:
A Burgundy - Belgium
F English Channel - North Sea
F Ionian Sea, no move received (*Dislodged*)
A Liverpool Hold
F London Supports F English Channel - North Sea
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)

Germany:
A Berlin - Prussia (*Fails*)
A Bohemia - Silesia
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
F Sweden - Norway (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea, no move received
F Apulia, no move received
A Rome, no move received

Russia:
A Finland Hold
F Norway Hold
A Prussia Supports A Warsaw - Silesia (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Fails*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Greece - Serbia
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Serbia - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia



Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
England:   Supp  1 Unit  1 Build  0
France:    Supp  9 Unit  7 Build  1 (2 if you retreat to Naples or Tunisia)
Germany:   Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1
Italy:     Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 (2 if France retreats to Naples or Tunisia)
Russia:    Supp  4 Unit  5 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1



Cheers,
Alan Farrington

[Reply]

Dc 402: Spring 1905 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Jan 25, 2012, 10:32 pm)
Hello all,

It appears my RP didn't save some orders I put in.  I went back through and reentered, but if I missed any or something is wrong with yours please let me know so I can look into it immediately.  In other news: German fleets play catch me if you can with mother Russia.  Venice trades hands yet again -- this time going to the sneaky french.  And Turkey refuses to commit to anything.

English F London can retreat to Yorkshire or North Sea.
Austrian A Venice can retreat to Tuscany.

Since England has already put in his orders as OTB and it will have no affect on the Austrian retreat I will move the Austrian A to Tuscany.  (If you prefer OTB let me know by 1/26 at the normal time else tuscany stands)



Next
Deadline:
Fall 1905 is due Tuesday, January 31st at Midnight
GMT (7:00pm EST)


Orders:
Austria:
A Budapest Hold
A Trieste Supports A Venice
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia

England:
F Clyde Hold
F London Hold (*Dislodged*)

France:
A Belgium - Burgundy
F English Channel Supports F Wales - London
A Liverpool Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Tyrolia - Venice
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Ionian Sea (*Ordered to Move*)
F Wales - London

Germany:
F Denmark - Sweden
F Holland Hold
A Kiel - Munich
A Munich - Bohemia
F Norway - St Petersburg(nc)
A Silesia - Berlin

Italy:
F Apulia Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
A Rome Supports A Tyrolia - Venice

Russia:
A Finland Supports F Sweden - Norway
A Moscow - Warsaw
A Sevastopol Hold
F Sweden - Norway
A Warsaw - Prussia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Bulgaria - Greece
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
A Rumania Supports A Serbia
A Serbia Supports A Rumania
A Syria - Smyrna



See you all soon,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 402: Winter 1904 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Jan 19, 2012, 8:32 pm)
Hey all,

Everybody gets to do something this turn, although Im sure England, Italy, and Russia would have preferred to have the turn off.

Next Deadline:
Spring 1905 is due Wednesday, January 25th at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST).


Orders:
Austria:
Build A Budapest

England:
Remove F North Sea

France:
Build A Marseilles

Germany:
Build A Kiel

Italy:
Remove F Albania

Russia:
Remove A Ukraine

Turkey:
Build waived



Ownership of Supply Centers:

Austria:   Budapest, Trieste, Venice, Vienna.
England:   Edinburgh, London.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Liverpool, Marseilles, Paris,
           Portugal, Spain.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Norway.
Italy:     Naples, Rome, Tunis.
Russia:    Moscow, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Rumania,
           Serbia, Smyrna.


Thanks all,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 402: Autumn 1904 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Jan 18, 2012, 8:22 am)
Hello,


Italy retreats to Rome; on to winter!

Next Deadline:

Winter 1904 is due Thursday, January 19th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm
EST)





Orders:
Italy:
A Venice - Rome


Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  4 Unit  3 Build  1
England:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
France:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Italy:     Supp  3 Unit  4 Remove  1
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  6 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1


Thanks,

Alan Farrington

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Dc 402: Fall 1904 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Jan 18, 2012, 12:13 am)
Hey all,

Headlines:  Turkey and Italy both rush to capture Greece and all of its debt.  France decides Tunisia was a nice visit but not really someplace they'd wanna stay.  And Austria manages to trade Venice for Tyrolia (good trade!)

Italian A Venice can retreat to Tuscany or Rome or Piedmont.



Next
Deadline:
Fall 1904 is due Wednesday, January 18th at Midnight
GMT (7:00pm EST)  (ish, may be after my class if I don't have an order before midnight)


Orders:
Austria:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice

England:
F Clyde - Liverpool (*Fails*)
F London Hold
F North Sea - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)

France:
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Wales
F Irish Sea - Wales
A Liverpool - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
A Picardy - Belgium
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea

Germany:
A Bohemia - Munich
F Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
F Norway - St Petersburg(nc) (*Bounce*)
A Silesia, no move received

Italy:
F Albania Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece
F Apulia - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece (*Bounce*)
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)

Russia:
A Finland Supports F Sweden
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Moscow - St Petersburg (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol, no move received
F Sweden Hold
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Warsaw

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria - Greece
A Armenia - Syria
A Bulgaria - Greece (*Bounce*)
F Constantinople Hold
A Rumania Hold
A Serbia Supports A Rumania



Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  4 Unit  3 Build  1
England:   Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1
France:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Italy:     Supp  3 Unit  4 Remove  1
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  6 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1



Cheers,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 402: Summer 1904 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Jan 13, 2012, 12:08 pm)
Hello,

Ben decides to scrap his fleet in the Mediterranean this summer and we move on to fall.

Orders:
Turkey:
Remove F Ionian Sea


Next Deadline
Fall
1904 is due Tuesday, January 17th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm EST)
If this isn't enough time let me know.

Cheers,
Alan
Farrington

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Dc 402: Summer 1904 Adjudication (dc402) AlanRFarrington Jan 13, 12:08 pm
Hello,

Ben decides to scrap his fleet in the Mediterranean this summer and we move on to fall.

Orders:
Turkey:
Remove F Ionian Sea


Next Deadline
Fall
1904 is due Tuesday, January 17th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm EST)
If this isn't enough time let me know.

Cheers,
Alan
Farrington

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