Ben,
I see your point in the Med, which is why I opted to move MAO to Wes instead of NAO (which would've been planned to go against Scandinavia, and would've been useful against this rogue German unit). But that unit, (Which, by the way, was a very good move by Sam) will only harass my lines. It will be something I can deal with in my own time. Like I said, I don't expect the solo to pass this turn, just wanted to get the conversation started. Once I see a solo is actually out of reach, I'll have no problem voting for a draw involving other players. I hope, by the same token, that if I secure the solo, the surviivng players will vote to give me the solo, which will save time and ensure we end the game agreeably.
Justin,
I'm sorry this game hasn't been much fun for you. I can point you to your e-mail signature:
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. But also, I commend you for not NMRing. Lesser players would become frustrated and decide to walk away. Good dedication.
Actually, fun fact - we've had NO NMRs, despite France being kicked early and Italy being paralyzed for much of the game. Actually, as I recall, I think there was an NMR. Well, none that've been recorded on the game site on DC. Maybe I'm wrong. But if not, that's damn impressive!
-Maslow
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com> wrote:
For what it's worth, at this point I will vote yes to anything. This has been
probably the most frustrating game of diplomacy I have ever played, and I want it
ended.
---
Justin
--
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.
On 01.03.2012 05:15, Benjamin Hester wrote:
Not going to happen. You can't hold Tunis, in fact you're two fleets
short of what's needed to cork the Mediterranean, and you can't afford
to divert them from the north in time. Turkish/Italian fleets
outnumber you 2-1 in the Mediterranean. Venice is also beyond your
reach - even if Austria helped you capture it in the spring, Italy can
ensure a recapture in the fall with the right builds.
Not to mention, you'll have to dedicate at least one if not two fleets
in the north to deal with a rampaging German fleet that just slipped
through the net. So 18 is out of reach I think - you will likely get
to about 15-16 before you're taking losses in the south, but then it
should be a irreversible decline until we reach a balance of power
again.
Not that I will get away clean either - to keep Italy and Germany on
board, I will have to cede dots to them/pass the majority of spoils to
them in order to keep the alliance together. So I won't be walking
away with a solo either.
As for Russia and Austria, neither is long for this world. You will
surely turn on Russia sooner rather than later for his remaining dot,
and Austria will be down to a single SC by the end of this year. That
said, both have played tenacious defense under extremely difficult
circumstances - I would be perfectly happy and honored to share in the
draw with them as well, which is why I proposed the DIAS along with
the FGIT. They've earned it.
Otherwise, they'll be eliminated soon, and FGIT will be the DIAS, as I
intend to cede dots to both Germany and Italy as needed to keep them
in the game. Neither will be eliminated, even if it means Germany
survives in Smyrna (that would be interesting to do just to see it
happen
All that said, you've played an outstanding game - far and away the
leader on the board, nobody's questioning that. But the solo is out
of reach unless Italy, Germany and I fall apart.
B.
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com> wrote:
No to both. Why are Russia and Austria not involved in the other draw?
Because Turkey has been unable to rally them to his cause.
General plea to all: A French solo is inevitable. This coming year I will
take Tunis. Germany is mine. His lack of fleets gives him little hope of
defense. Turkey cannot get there fast enough to help him nor get there fast
enough to pick up the centers.
I do not expect the French solo will pass this turn. The board looks open.
But once Kiel and Berlin are mine, I do hope we all vote for the solo,
rather than make the game drag out. After all, at that point Scandinavia
and StP are tactically guarunteed, and with Tunis, that makes 18.
Regards,
-Maslow
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Turkey proposes both a FGIT and a DIAS, and votes yes to both.
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Farrington
<alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
> First off all 3 proposals fail, so we shall fight on. Italy begins its
> long
> awaited comeback with help from France and Turkey. Russia sets himself
> up
> to take Sweden, and then forgets to actually take Sweden.
>
>
> Next Deadline:
> Winter 1907 is due Thursday March 1st at Midnight GMT
>
>
> Austria:
> A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
> A Trieste - Vienna
> A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
>
> France:
> A Burgundy Supports A Munich
> A Edinburgh - Holland
> F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
> F Holland - Helgoland Bight
> F Ionian Sea Hold
> F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
> A Munich Hold
> F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Holland
> A Piedmont Supports A Rome - Venice
> A Ruhr Supports A Edinburgh - Holland
> F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
>
> Germany:
> F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
> A Berlin Supports A Kiel
> A Denmark Supports A Kiel
> A Kiel Supports A Denmark
> F Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)
> A Warsaw Hold
>
> Italy:
> F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
> F Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea
> A Rome - Venice
>
> Russia:
> A Finland, no move received
> F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Void*)
>
> Turkey:
> F Aegean Sea - Greece
> A Bulgaria - Rumania
> F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
> F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
> F Greece - Albania
> A Moscow - Livonia
> A Serbia Supports F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
> A Sevastopol - Moscow
> A Ukraine Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
>
>
>
> Austria: Supp 2 Unit 3 Remove 1
> England: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
> France: Supp 11 Unit 11 Build 0
> Germany: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
> Italy: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
> Russia: Supp 1 Unit 2 Remove 1
> Turkey: Supp 9 Unit 9 Build 0
>
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.
Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know
the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to
the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a
passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.
And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the
stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too
small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know
now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they
didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting
for."
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
