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dc133 To Heir is Over! EGS Italy - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hello to All

Thanks to Mike for his excellent gming. I really liked the fast pace and would quite happily sign up for another game that moved at the same pace.

A quick EGS - please accept these were my thoughts at the time and are of course entirely unrelated to anybody's real life personalities etc just how I saw the game going. I suppose I started off at a bit of a loose end because of Italy's rep waiting to see what would happen which I think was a mistake. Obviously pleased to see France go North. Less pleased to be attacked twice by Austria who wasted no time. Amused to be invited into an EGI alliance by Germany against Fra - I wrote back saying "yes" and then Germnay wrote back saying he was deciding whether to join the alliance and would let me know - it was his idea - fortunately eventually he decided to join his own alliance.

Meanwhile in the East Turkey was battering Russia for all he was worth and Russia was getting a persecution complex - I was convinced R was doing whatever Austria said, couldn't work out why and was getting frustrated that he wouldn't attack Aus who was making good progress but I suppose you can understand it in the face of Turkey's non-stop aggression combined with his silence or occasional terse communication.

Meanwhile having said I'd join an EGI I was obliged to move against Fra which I was a bit nervous about doing as Aus was still kicking lumps out of me and so I tried to go as slowly as possible but Andrew in Eng showed alot of patience especially with Fra in his scs. Meanwhile begged Ger (my ally) for help with Aus. Got nowhere. Ger did a fantastic "oh Austria assured me that you know what he's doing so no need for me to intervene" - but he's invading my territory - "nothing to worry about" says Ger - With allies like these...So became convinvced that Aus and Ger were in a tight alliance and the EGI was a cover to delude us all. Yet again I was completely wrong but did my hardest diploming work trying to get Fra and Eng to put their differences behind them an attack Ger (sorry Lawrencelot) and Russia and Tur to make up and attack Aus. No luck in the West which in retrospect was a good thing for me but amazingly Russia and Turkey put their differneces behind them (and Dan discovered the lost art of writing letters) and formed a solid alliance against Aus that lasted one whole move (I was very proud of that one move) before Russia decided we couldn't be trusted and went back into his inscrutable shell to be picked apart by my Western allies.

Of course the pivotal event now was Aus going into CD which was a pity even though without it I'd never have a have a part of a draw. After that it was just a process of watching one's allies closely and combining against one's enemies. I was convinced for ages that Lawrencelot was going to go for a solo and be stopped by Andrew in Eng who would then go for one himself but that proved not to be the case - were they both waiting for the other to make the commital move or did it never cross their minds, honourable men that they both doubtless are - we'll never know well unless they tell us - certainly neither of them tried to turn me against the other which I was hoping for for a while. Was quite happy to have a four way draw with T but E and G less convinced and after E's elegant threat (just casually mentioning the different size of our forces and what would happen if...) I decided that my loyalties lay with the strong and stabbed poor Turkey. Sorry, Dan - I felt bad for moments afterwards. And that was it. Pleased to get to a draw especially not having a clue what was going on for much of the time. A very enjoyable game. Thanks to everyone for playing.

All the best

Dom (Italy)

Subject: dc133 To Heir is Over!
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:08:36 -0800
From: mike(at)southwall.com
To: alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk; former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wtfleming(at)hotmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com; domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk; damienthryn(at)gmail.com; aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com; gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com

Dc133 (To Heir Is Human) officially ends in the Winter of 08, with a 3-Way-Draw between England, Germany, and Italy!

Standings:

Tied 1st: England (Andrew)
Tied 1st: Germany (Laurens)
Tied 1st: Italy (Dom)
4th: Turkey (Dan), 4-SC Survival
5th: Russia (Will), Eliminated 07
6th: France (Alex): Eliminated 06
7th: Austria (Gaius): Civil Disorder 05

Congrats to all - especially the final trio! Hope to see you in another game soon, and if any of you are interested in trying on the GM hat let me know... we always need willing souls to run games -- it's probly a lot less effort than you think. Hopefully everyone will have some thoughts to put into an EGS (end-game statement) and send to the group. Just to share all the dirt that's transpired throughout.

A fast game, only 120 days, a bit under 4 months... Keeping to our quick pace that we set early on, it was only 15 days per year... whereas most games tend to run about 20+ days per year. What's your take on the quicker pace?

Enjoy!
-mike


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dc133 - Time to Heir - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Time to Heir out that dirty laundry again as results will be out tomorrow (Wed) 2pm Pacific!

I may be missing orders, don’t be caught w your pants in the dryer and the enemy on your doorstep.

Um… yeah.
-mike

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dc133 (Heir) s07 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Didn’t mean to get y’all excited w the “results!” in the subject, cuz not a whole lot changes here:

Three powers attack Russian Sev in some way, yet it survives the turn unscathed… England convoys an army to the mainland, a few fleets reposition, and that’s about it!

There is an EGP for this turn, a DIAS – that is Draw Including All Survivors. Would require 5 yes votes with fall orders to pass, and if passed all 5 players would share equally in the draw.

Fall: Wednesday Feb 20, 2pm Pacific!

**********************************************************

England:
F Barents Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - St Petersburg
A Edinburgh - St Petersburg
F English Channel - Brest
A Livonia - Moscow (*Fails*)
F London - English Channel
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F English Channel - Brest
A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - St Petersburg
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Berlin - Silesia
A Gascony - Burgundy
F Kiel - Holland
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich Hold
A Rumania Supports A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Cut*)
A Silesia - Galicia
A Ukraine Supports A Rumania

Italy:
A Budapest Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Rome - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Russia:
A Sevastopol Hold

Turkey:
A Armenia - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
F Bulgaria(ec) - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
F Greece Hold
A Serbia Supports F Bulgaria(ec) - Rumania
F Smyrna Hold

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dc133 winter 06 builds! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
England:
Build A Edinburgh
Build F London

France:
Remove F Tuscany

Germany:
Build A Berlin

Turkey:
Build F Smyrna

Next: Spring 07, this Friday Feb 15, 2pm Pacific!


Standings, after 6 years:
Seq
Country
Player
Result
S.C.
Seas
NMRs
0
Austria
Gaius
Civil Disorder
0
10
2
0
England
DamienThryn
Open
9
12
0
0
France
alexanderhydes
Eliminated
0
12
0
0
Germany
Lawrencelot
Open
10
12
0
0
Italy
UtherSlywort
Open
8
12
0
0
Russia
MayberryNut1
Open
1
12
0
0
Turkey
Colonel_Mustard
Open
6
12
0




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dc133 f06 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
5 players remain!


No surprises in the west as Germany and England finish their systematic dismanteling of the French empire, while the Russians sell out to the highest bidder in the Balkan Wars... and that bidder was... The Germans! Who successfully raid Rumania for a 2-build turn.

Builds due Monday, 2pm Pacific:

England: Build 2
Germany: Build 2 (But only 1 build spot open)
Turkey: Build 1
France: Remove F Tus

Sorry Alex, but that one's forced. Smile Thank you for sticking it out to the end, better luck next game!


England:
F English Channel Hold
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Portugal
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France:
F Tuscany - Marseilles (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Galicia - Rumania
A Gascony Supports A Marseilles
F Kiel, no move received
A Marseilles Hold
A Silesia - Munich
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Rumania
A Warsaw - Silesia

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Spain(sc) Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Vienna Supports A Budapest

Russia:
F Bulgaria(ec) Supports A Galicia - Rumania (*Disbanded*)
A Sevastopol Supports A Galicia - Rumania

Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople
A Armenia Hold
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
F Greece Supports F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
A Rumania Supports A Serbia (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia Supports A Rumania

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dc133 f06 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
5 players remain!

No surprises in the west as Germany and England finish their systematic dismanteling of the French empire, while the Russians sell out to the highest bidder in the Balkan Wars... and that bidder was... The Germans! Who successfully raid Rumania for a 2-build turn.

Builds due Monday, 2pm Pacific:

England: Build 2
Germany: Build 2 (But only 1 build spot open)
Turkey: Build 1
France: Remove F Tus

Sorry Alex, but that one's forced. Smile Thank you for sticking it out to the end, better luck next game!


England:
F English Channel Hold
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Portugal
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France:
F Tuscany - Marseilles (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Galicia - Rumania
A Gascony Supports A Marseilles
F Kiel, no move received
A Marseilles Hold
A Silesia - Munich
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Rumania
A Warsaw - Silesia

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Spain(sc) Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Vienna Supports A Budapest

Russia:
F Bulgaria(ec) Supports A Galicia - Rumania (*Disbanded*)
A Sevastopol Supports A Galicia - Rumania

Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople
A Armenia Hold
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
F Greece Supports F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
A Rumania Supports A Serbia (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia Supports A Rumania

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dc133 s06 - It's just another... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
It’s just another Manic Monday…
My “Centers, I got none” – day
Wish it were Sunday
Cuz then I still had some – Eh?

…Or so the French troops could be heard humming as their last two supply centers are invaded. Things only looking marginally better for Russia, as the game seems to be reducing to a 4-player match pretty soon!

RETREATS:

Mar and Ukr are disbanded, NRP
GOL can only retreat to Tus so I’ll just move it there.

NEXT: Fall ’06 Friday 2/8, 2pm Pacific!

This is 4 days, but we’ve been doing 5-day turns… so it’s either Friday (4) or Monday (7) since I don’t do weekends. If anyone prefers Monday, let me know w/in 48 hrs and I’ll change it.

ORDERS:

England:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
F English Channel - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
F North Sea - English Channel
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea
A St Petersburg - Moscow

France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Hold (*Disbanded*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy - Marseilles
A Galicia - Ukraine
A Gascony Supports A Burgundy - Marseilles
F Kiel Hold
A Prussia - Silesia
A Silesia - Galicia
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia - Ukraine

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Ionian Sea Hold
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Spain(sc) Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Venice - Piedmont
A Vienna Supports A Budapest

Russia:
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
A Ukraine - Rumania (*Disbanded*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Ankara Supports A Smyrna - Armenia
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Constantinople - Black Sea
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia

Enjoy,
-mike

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dc133 (Heir) winter 05 builds! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
France:
Remove F Portugal

Italy:
Build A Venice
Build F Naples

Russia:
Remove A Moscow

Turkey:
Build A Ankara
Build A Smyrna

Next: Spring 06, due Monday Feb 4, 2pm Pacific!

Enjoy,
-mike

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dc133 (Heir) f05 results! Love is... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
"Love is in the Heir"

...is today's theme as the lovefest we see between England, Germany, and Italy makes the GM lose his lunch.

Really this couldn't have been a more perfect example of "Here... let me help you... no no let ME help YOU!"

Bleh! :-p

Builds, due Wednesday 2pm Pacific:

France: Remove 1
Italy: Build 2
Russia: Remove 1
Turkey: Build 2
England: None
Germany: None

There is a 3-way E/G/I draw proposed. Voting is officially due with next SPRING orders tho if by some chance I get 6 YES votes this build turn, I'll pass it then. Note even the two powers without builds due would have to vote yes by Wed, or we post the builds and move on to Spring!

And, your ORDERS:

Austria:
A Serbia, no move received (*Disbanded*)
England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
F Brest - English Channel
F English Channel - North Sea
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Western Mediterranean -
Spain(sc) (*Cut*)
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Norway - St Petersburg
A St Petersburg - Livonia

France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles (*Cut*)
A Marseilles Hold
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A St Petersburg - Livonia
A Bohemia - Silesia
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Fails*)
F Denmark - Kiel
A Galicia - Ukraine (*Fails*)
A Gascony Supports F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Prussia Supports A Livonia - Warsaw

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Trieste Supports A Vienna
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon (*Fails*)
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)

Russia:
F Black Sea - Ankara (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw - Moscow (*Cut*)
A Warsaw - Moscow

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece - Serbia
F Constantinople - Ankara (*Bounce*)
A Greece - Serbia

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dc133 (Heir) s05 retreats! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Germany: A Warsaw - Livonia
Russia: F Bulgaria(ec) - Black Sea

Next: fall 05, due Monday 1/28, 2pm Pacific!

Enjoy,
-mike

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dc133 (Heir) s05 results! - Vive le... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
"Vive le miniscule!"

Is shouted across the land as the small powers send the grim reaper packing -- at least for the spring.
Russia reclaims Warsaw, while France thwarts attacks from the 3 largest powers on the board.

There are 2 retreats -

German army Warsaw can go to Lvn, Sil, or OTB
Russian fleet Bulgaria can go to Rum, Black, or OTB

Retreats - by Wed 2pm Pacific, tho I will send out whenever I have both of them.

*******************************************************
Austria:
A Budapest, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia, no move received

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Edinburgh - Norway
F Brest Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Edinburgh - Norway
F English Channel Supports F Brest
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Western Med - Spain(sc) (*Cut*)
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
A St Petersburg - Moscow (*Bounce*)

France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Spain - Marseilles
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
A Berlin - Prussia
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Galicia
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Fails*)
A Gascony - Spain (*Bounce*)
F Livonia - Baltic Sea
A Silesia - Galicia
F Sweden - Denmark
A Warsaw Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow (*Dislodged*)

Italy:
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Trieste - Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Venice - Trieste
A Vienna Supports A Trieste - Budapest
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc) (*Bounce*)

Russia:
F Bulgaria(ec) Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Warsaw

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Greece
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Greece Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Smyrna - Constantinople

Enjoy,
-mike

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dc133 (Heir) f07 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Between two NMR's and 11 Hold orders, over half the units on the board dig in for attacks that never materialize! Russia not so lucky tho, is eliminated with the loss of Sev.

What is next - will things draw here or will someone make a move? Find out in the Spring of 08, due Monday Feb 25, 2pm Pacific!

4 players remain...


England:
F Barents Sea - Norway
F Brest Hold
F English Channel - Belgium
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Portugal
A Moscow - Sevastopol
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A St Petersburg - Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Hold
A Galicia Supports A Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich Hold
A Rumania Supports A Moscow - Sevastopol
A Silesia Hold
A Ukraine Supports A Rumania

Italy:
A Budapest Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Russia:
A Sevastopol, no move received (*Disbanded*)

Turkey:
A Armenia, no move received
F Bulgaria(ec), no move received
A Constantinople, no move received
F Greece, no move received
A Serbia, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received

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dc133 (Heir) f07 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Wait, England and Germany get to squeeze in a build first! 1 each...
Can we get that by Friday?

The draw was voted down.
-mike



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 2/20/2008 2:42 PM
To: Alex Hydes (alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk); Former Trout (former.trout(at)gmail.com); Dc133bb (dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com); 'wtfleming(at)hotmail.com'; Steve Lytton (stevelytton(at)hotmail.com); 'laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com'; Dom Barker (domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk); 'damienthryn(at)gmail.com'; 'aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com'; 'gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com'
Subject: dc133 (Heir) f07 results!


Between two NMR's and 11 Hold orders, over half the units on the board dig in for attacks that never materialize! Russia not so lucky tho, is eliminated with the loss of Sev.

What is next - will things draw here or will someone make a move? Find out in the Spring of 08, due Monday Feb 25, 2pm Pacific!

4 players remain...


England:
F Barents Sea - Norway
F Brest Hold
F English Channel - Belgium
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Portugal
A Moscow - Sevastopol
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A St Petersburg - Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Hold
A Galicia Supports A Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich Hold
A Rumania Supports A Moscow - Sevastopol
A Silesia Hold
A Ukraine Supports A Rumania

Italy:
A Budapest Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Russia:
A Sevastopol, no move received (*Disbanded*)

Turkey:
A Armenia, no move received
F Bulgaria(ec), no move received
A Constantinople, no move received
F Greece, no move received
A Serbia, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received

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dc133 (Heir) f07 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
As Russia, I would like to propose a golf-based scoring system. Is it too late for this?
Good luck, fellas and thanks for being so gentle.

Will

Subject: dc133 (Heir) f07 results!
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:45:33 -0800
From: mike(at)southwall.com
To: alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk; former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wtfleming(at)hotmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com; domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk; damienthryn(at)gmail.com; aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com; gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com

Wait, England and Germany get to squeeze in a build first! 1 each...
Can we get that by Friday?

The draw was voted down.
-mike



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 2/20/2008 2:42 PM
To: Alex Hydes (alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk); Former Trout (former.trout(at)gmail.com); Dc133bb (dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com); 'wtfleming(at)hotmail.com'; Steve Lytton (stevelytton(at)hotmail.com); 'laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com'; Dom Barker (domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk); 'damienthryn(at)gmail.com'; 'aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com'; 'gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com'
Subject: dc133 (Heir) f07 results!


Between two NMR's and 11 Hold orders, over half the units on the board dig in for attacks that never materialize! Russia not so lucky tho, is eliminated with the loss of Sev.

What is next - will things draw here or will someone make a move? Find out in the Spring of 08, due Monday Feb 25, 2pm Pacific!

4 players remain...


England:
F Barents Sea - Norway
F Brest Hold
F English Channel - Belgium
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Portugal
A Moscow - Sevastopol
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A St Petersburg - Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Hold
A Galicia Supports A Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich Hold
A Rumania Supports A Moscow - Sevastopol
A Silesia Hold
A Ukraine Supports A Rumania

Italy:
A Budapest Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Trieste Supports A Budapest
F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Russia:
A Sevastopol, no move received (*Disbanded*)

Turkey:
A Armenia, no move received
F Bulgaria(ec), no move received
A Constantinople, no move received
F Greece, no move received
A Serbia, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received


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dc133 To Heir is Over! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Same to you, man. And Dom, appreciate the strong alliance after you jumped into the middle of the game. Thanks to everyone for playing a great game.

Well, my game pretty well revolved around France's stab into the channel to start. That was the one agreement I'd worked hard to get set from the start - a Channel DMZ. Once that went down, it was pretty much necessary for me to work out an alliance with Germany, whatever he might require.

And fortunately for me, Germany was a reliable and trusting ally - perhaps a little TOO trusting to be honest, as most Dip players (I'm sure Mike was seething watching the seasons go by) would have taken the opportunity of having a secure position, 5 fleets, and Germany occupied in the east to effect a brutal stab. But I simply don't like to repay trust with betrayal, and so we remained in a strong alliance till the end.

Bit hairy there though as France moved an army onto Wales and nearly captured one of my home centers, but Italy's timely intervention and Germany's continued support saved my bacon. From there I worked to repay my allies' trust and complete my primary objective in the game, which was to eliminate France in repayment for his game opening stab. Took a while thanks to the damn corner position, but it all worked out.

From there, well, as Italy and Germany were allies, Russia was the only avenue of expansion left. And with Austria's NMR there was nothing holding Germany back, so it was fairly certain Russia would fall. And that was pretty much the game, aside from a few season's bickering over the nature of the final draw, which ended as Turkey NMRed which brought Italy, grudgingly, in to our side to effect the final assault, and force the draw.

Again, thanks for all of you for playing a fun game, and to Mike for GMing, even as I'm sure he was tearing his hair out in hopes of a grand stab from SOMEBODY.

Andrew

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Laurens Bliek <laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com ([email]laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Heh, nice job Andrew and Dom. It was fun playing with you guys, and with the others too. Mike, thanks for GMing.

I think Germany and England built up a nice relation based on trust. I don't know if it had anything to do with me playing for the first time, but it worked out very well. France kept fighting till the end, and so did Russia. I liked the fast pace, but when I joined another diplomacy game in the meantime (where I'm now dead) it was becoming a bit too much for me, though I gave priority to this game.

Although I liked this game, I'm not sure if I'm going to play more diplomacy games. As you might know, I played a lot of mafia games, which are comparable with diplomacy because it's based on discussion too, and it takes almost as long as these games (the larger ones, that is). And I like playing mafia more, also because I find it easier to discuss things on a forum and not via email. If I'm going to play diplomacy again: see you next time. Else: it was nice playing with you.

Laurens


[quote:c5728e250d] Subject: dc133 To Heir is Over!
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:08:36 -0800
From: mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])
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Dc133 (To Heir Is Human) officially ends in the Winter of 08, with a 3-Way-Draw between England, Germany, and Italy!

Standings:

Tied 1st: England (Andrew)
Tied 1st: Germany (Laurens)
Tied 1st: Italy (Dom)
4th: Turkey (Dan), 4-SC Survival
5th: Russia (Will), Eliminated 07
6th: France (Alex): Eliminated 06
7th: Austria (Gaius): Civil Disorder 05

Congrats to all - especially the final trio! Hope to see you in another game soon, and if any of you are interested in trying on the GM hat let me know... we always need willing souls to run games -- it's probly a lot less effort than you think. Hopefully everyone will have some thoughts to put into an EGS (end-game statement) and send to the group. Just to share all the dirt that's transpired throughout.

A fast game, only 120 days, a bit under 4 months... Keeping to our quick pace that we set early on, it was only 15 days per year... whereas most games tend to run about 20+ days per year. What's your take on the quicker pace?

Enjoy!
-mike





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dc133 To Heir is Over! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heh, nice job Andrew and Dom. It was fun playing with you guys, and with the others too. Mike, thanks for GMing.

I think Germany and England built up a nice relation based on trust. I don't know if it had anything to do with me playing for the first time, but it worked out very well. France kept fighting till the end, and so did Russia. I liked the fast pace, but when I joined another diplomacy game in the meantime (where I'm now dead) it was becoming a bit too much for me, though I gave priority to this game.

Although I liked this game, I'm not sure if I'm going to play more diplomacy games. As you might know, I played a lot of mafia games, which are comparable with diplomacy because it's based on discussion too, and it takes almost as long as these games (the larger ones, that is). And I like playing mafia more, also because I find it easier to discuss things on a forum and not via email. If I'm going to play diplomacy again: see you next time. Else: it was nice playing with you.

Laurens


Subject: dc133 To Heir is Over!
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:08:36 -0800
From: mike(at)southwall.com
To: alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk; former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wtfleming(at)hotmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com; domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk; damienthryn(at)gmail.com; aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com; gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com

Dc133 (To Heir Is Human) officially ends in the Winter of 08, with a 3-Way-Draw between England, Germany, and Italy!

Standings:

Tied 1st: England (Andrew)
Tied 1st: Germany (Laurens)
Tied 1st: Italy (Dom)
4th: Turkey (Dan), 4-SC Survival
5th: Russia (Will), Eliminated 07
6th: France (Alex): Eliminated 06
7th: Austria (Gaius): Civil Disorder 05

Congrats to all - especially the final trio! Hope to see you in another game soon, and if any of you are interested in trying on the GM hat let me know... we always need willing souls to run games -- it's probly a lot less effort than you think. Hopefully everyone will have some thoughts to put into an EGS (end-game statement) and send to the group. Just to share all the dirt that's transpired throughout.

A fast game, only 120 days, a bit under 4 months... Keeping to our quick pace that we set early on, it was only 15 days per year... whereas most games tend to run about 20+ days per year. What's your take on the quicker pace?

Enjoy!
-mike


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dc133 To Heir is Over! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Dc133 (To Heir Is Human) officially ends in the Winter of 08, with a 3-Way-Draw between England, Germany, and Italy!

Standings:

Tied 1st: England (Andrew)
Tied 1st: Germany (Laurens)
Tied 1st: Italy (Dom)
4th: Turkey (Dan), 4-SC Survival
5th: Russia (Will), Eliminated 07
6th: France (Alex): Eliminated 06
7th: Austria (Gaius): Civil Disorder 05

Congrats to all - especially the final trio! Hope to see you in another game soon, and if any of you are interested in trying on the GM hat let me know... we always need willing souls to run games -- it's probly a lot less effort than you think. Hopefully everyone will have some thoughts to put into an EGS (end-game statement) and send to the group. Just to share all the dirt that's transpired throughout.

A fast game, only 120 days, a bit under 4 months... Keeping to our quick pace that we set early on, it was only 15 days per year... whereas most games tend to run about 20+ days per year. What's your take on the quicker pace?

Enjoy!
-mike

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dc133 f08 draw prop - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
If y’all want to pass it, requires 4 yes votes and I’ll call the game officially spring 09.

Yay / nay?
-mike



From: Barker Walter [mailto:domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:39 AM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk; former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wtfleming(at)hotmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com; domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk; gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com
Subject: RE: dc133 f08 results!



Hello

I agree. I'm happy to call it here and have voted for the draw twice already and will do again.

All the best

Dom (Italy)



Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:24:10 -0800
From: damienthryn(at)gmail.com
To: aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: dc133 f08 results!
CC: mike(at)southwall.com; alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk; former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wtfleming(at)hotmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com; domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk; gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com

Yeah I think the only way this will end is with a EGI draw and a Turkey survival...I've proposed and voted for that draw a couple times, and I do so again. Everyone? Shall we call this? Turkey has played an admirable game, I don't see a reason to play it till the death.

Andrew
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Dan Huck <aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Sorry about the recent NMRs, guys, but life intervenes sometimes. Based on what's left of Turkey, it might make sense to CD since the 3-way was rejected and Italy went with the E-G alliance. Let me know what you all think and I'll either play to the death or CD. Thanks.

-- Dan.


Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:
Draw is voted down, Turkey NMR's! Turk Bul is dislodged to Con. Dan remember 2 consecutive NMR's would be Civil Disorder!



Winter 08 is due Wednesday 2pm Pacific:



Germany:
Build



Italy:
Build



Turkey:
Remove
Remove



**************************************************



England:
F English Channel Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Spain(sc)
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Picardy - Belgium
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow



Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Supports A Marseilles
A Galicia Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich - Silesia
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Ukraine



Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Vienna - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)



Turkey:
A Albania, no move received
A Armenia, no move received
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Dislodged to Con*)
F Greece, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received








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dc133 f08 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hello

I agree. I'm happy to call it here and have voted for the draw twice already and will do again.

All the best

Dom (Italy)


Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:24:10 -0800
From: damienthryn(at)gmail.com
To: aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: dc133 f08 results!
CC: mike(at)southwall.com; alexanderhydes(at)yahoo.co.uk; former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc133(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wtfleming(at)hotmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; laurensbliek(at)hotmail.com; domandcarol(at)hotmail.co.uk; gaius.iulus(at)yahoo.com

Yeah I think the only way this will end is with a EGI draw and a Turkey survival...I've proposed and voted for that draw a couple times, and I do so again. Everyone? Shall we call this? Turkey has played an admirable game, I don't see a reason to play it till the death.

Andrew

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Dan Huck <aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:13a1c71ed9] Sorry about the recent NMRs, guys, but life intervenes sometimes. Based on what's left of Turkey, it might make sense to CD since the 3-way was rejected and Italy went with the E-G alliance. Let me know what you all think and I'll either play to the death or CD. Thanks.

-- Dan.


Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:[quote:13a1c71ed9] Draw is voted down, Turkey NMR's! Turk Bul is dislodged to Con. Dan remember 2 consecutive NMR's would be Civil Disorder!

Winter 08 is due Wednesday 2pm Pacific:

Germany:
Build

Italy:
Build

Turkey:
Remove
Remove

**************************************************

England:
F English Channel Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Spain(sc)
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Picardy - Belgium
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Supports A Marseilles
A Galicia Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich - Silesia
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Vienna - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Turkey:
A Albania, no move received
A Armenia, no move received
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Dislodged to Con*)
F Greece, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received





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dc133 f08 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Yeah I think the only way this will end is with a EGI draw and a Turkey survival...I've proposed and voted for that draw a couple times, and I do so again. Everyone? Shall we call this? Turkey has played an admirable game, I don't see a reason to play it till the death.

Andrew

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Dan Huck <aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Sorry about the recent NMRs, guys, but life intervenes sometimes. Based on what's left of Turkey, it might make sense to CD since the 3-way was rejected and Italy went with the E-G alliance. Let me know what you all think and I'll either play to the death or CD. Thanks.

-- Dan.


Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:[quote:b6ed680ec9] Draw is voted down, Turkey NMR's! Turk Bul is dislodged to Con. Dan remember 2 consecutive NMR's would be Civil Disorder!

Winter 08 is due Wednesday 2pm Pacific:

Germany:
Build

Italy:
Build

Turkey:
Remove
Remove

**************************************************

England:
F English Channel Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Spain(sc)
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Picardy - Belgium
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Supports A Marseilles
A Galicia Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich - Silesia
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Vienna - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Turkey:
A Albania, no move received
A Armenia, no move received
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Dislodged to Con*)
F Greece, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received





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dc133 f08 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Sorry about the recent NMRs, guys, but life intervenes sometimes. Based on what's left of Turkey, it might make sense to CD since the 3-way was rejected and Italy went with the E-G alliance. Let me know what you all think and I'll either play to the death or CD. Thanks.

-- Dan.

Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com> wrote:

Draw is voted down, Turkey NMR's! Turk Bul is dislodged to Con. Dan remember 2 consecutive NMR's would be Civil Disorder!

Winter 08 is due Wednesday 2pm Pacific:

Germany:
Build

Italy:
Build

Turkey:
Remove
Remove

**************************************************

England:
F English Channel Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Spain(sc)
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Picardy - Belgium
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Supports A Marseilles
A Galicia Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich - Silesia
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Vienna - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Turkey:
A Albania, no move received
A Armenia, no move received
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Dislodged to Con*)
F Greece, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received



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dc133 f08 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Draw is voted down, Turkey NMR's! Turk Bul is dislodged to Con. Dan remember 2 consecutive NMR's would be Civil Disorder!

Winter 08 is due Wednesday 2pm Pacific:

Germany:
Build

Italy:
Build

Turkey:
Remove
Remove

**************************************************

England:
F English Channel Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Spain(sc)
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
F North Sea Supports F Picardy - Belgium
F Picardy - Belgium
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Burgundy Supports A Marseilles
A Galicia Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich - Silesia
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Vienna - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Turkey:
A Albania, no move received
A Armenia, no move received
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Dislodged to Con*)
F Greece, no move received
F Smyrna, no move received

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dc133 (Heir) s08 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
One retreat, Turk A Ser can only go to Alb so I’ll send it there and we move on to Fall 08, due Monday March 3, 2pm Pacific!

There is a 3-way EGI draw proposed, with T getting a survival – vote yes/no with your fall orders!

England:
F Belgium - Picardy
F Brest - Gascony
F Liverpool - Irish Sea
A Livonia - Moscow (*Fails*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Portugal
A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
F North Sea - English Channel
F Norway - North Sea
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Sevastopol - Armenia (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Berlin - Prussia
A Burgundy Hold
A Galicia Supports A Rumania
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Munich Hold
A Rumania Supports A Budapest - Serbia (*Void*)
A Silesia - Warsaw
A Ukraine Supports A Rumania

Italy:
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
A Piedmont Hold
F Spain(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)

Turkey:
A Armenia Hold
F Bulgaria(ec) - Black Sea
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Greece Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Serbia Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Dislodged*)
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)

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dc133 (Heir) winter 07 builds! (correct) - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Whoops, make that:

England:
Build F Liverpool

Germany:
Build A Berlin

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dc133 (Heir) tomorrow! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hey folks, consider this your friendly nudge that your heirs are due tomorrow (Monday), 2pm Pacific!
Get’em in! By the way I’m missing quite a few, you all should be sending prelims! It will really save you some day. Best Dip habit you can get yourself into.
Enjoy,
-mike

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