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Author:fencertim
Posted:Feb 13, 2012 at 11:24 am
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I have to admit, i was pretty upset....i was beginning to wonder if you were doing all of that on purpose just to get me going....it was a good tactic, there were times i was not thinking objectively.
tim


On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Douglas Kent <dougray30(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



I started the game attacking Russia because he was very aggressive and
demanding in his negotiations.  I got one email from Austria, which was
enough for me, as I figured he'd have his hands full elsewhere.
 
Mike came in as Austria and I explained the situation to him...he was
getting the same read from Russia as I was, so we decided to work together which
also allowed him to focus on Italy (who at this point still thought I believed
we were allies).  A number of times Mike switched sides, but I made my
position rather clear: I'd hold out if he attacked me, but Russia was going to
grow faster so I'd rather throw my dots to Mike than let Tim have any. 
Plus Tim was so much more entertaining when he was mad - sort of like Jack
McHugh without the smelly socks.  Sadly, we couldn't just attack Tim
forever, but eventually he was moving towards the solo.
 
I can't for the life of me understand France's moves late in the game, but
somehow the 3-way draw passed.  I wouldn't have voted for it as
France.  Actually, as Russia I would have fought on for a bit and hoped the
stalemate line couldn't be fully completed.  Glad to have a piece of the
draw, and to get Tim so irritable at various times...made it fun.

 
From: Timothy Crosby
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:58 AM
To: Kevin O
Cc: dc393(at)diplomaticcorp.com ; Douglas
Kent ; james pillington ; Michael
Sims ; Ross Galloway
Subject: Re: dc393 - Game Over
 
Wow,
where to begin. It was a fun game thank you all for playing.
 
Thanks Kevin for running the game for us.
 
I entered the game thinking that i knew a fair amount about the game....i
had a couple of wins under my belt and my attitude and such got me into some
trouble here....however, regardless of how the game could have ended. I learned
more in this game than all of the others i have played in thanks to Mike and
Doug and Ross. You guys showed me things i had never considered and gave me a
whole new perspective that i have already put into practice in games i am in
now. I feel honored to be part of a wining draw when at a couple points in the
game i did not think i deserved to be there never the less playing the game at
all.
 
Things started off strange because no one heard a thing from the original
Austria but he has submitted prelims thus we moved on....I agreed to keep the
Black Sea open with Turkey, though he decided to come after me from the
start...which was fine, i was upset because he lied and i had no communications
with Austria which put me in a tough spot. My only other option was to befriend
Italy..we decided to wait and see what would happen with Austria for the Fall
and in the mean time we made plans to attack Turkey together....when Fall 01
arrived there were no Austrian orders so a ringer was brought in to take up the
vacant spot. There is where i ran into the problem of sticking with Italy or
trying to work with Austria....all the plans were laid out with Italy but I
wanted to go with Austria. The three of us talked about attacking Turkey
together, a LOT of discussion was going on.....Austria made the decision for us
by supporting Doug into Rumania so it turned into R/I vs. A/T. Mike i did get
you reasoning why you did that, but I would have dropped Italy in a second to
get back at Doug for stabbing me on the first turn. (sorry Ross) Several turns
were spent stagnating one another around GAL when Mike mentioned that we (RAT)
should join forces or spend the game doing nothing. I had seen a big move on
Germany since i was in GAL and WAR. I was very bitter with Turkey and it was
tough to give in but it worked out....Turkey moved up through GAL and i moved on
BER. I had to let Ross go because Austria needed a place to expand..i could not
come to your defense because this was the only option i had to get any
progress.
 
RAT went on for most of the game. We approached France to have him turn on
Germany just as England was falling out and that should have been the end of
Germany but France made some curious moves that drove two German armies into
France...I kept building fleets in the north which should have signaled to
France that i would be coming after him but France concentrated on getting
Germany out of his home centers as i moved my fleets closer. I think i made some
mistakes here by not taking either of the two chances i had to get into MAO....I
should not have stabbed France as early as i did i think now looking back.
France made a retreat of a fleet OTB that should have gone to IRI..at that point
I thought i was going to get a win....I think Mike say that too and made the
right move on the next turn to push his units north....you made the right call
at the right time Mike...I will strive to recognize those times because i do not
know that i would have done that were our positions switched and in the end i
would have lost, I think it was that close. If you did not make the move right
at that time the game was going to be lost.
 
Ross, i am glad you got a survival out of the game. I wanted to stick with
you as an ally but a great opportunity came up and i could not pass on it...I
would have loved to see how this last turn went especially that order for ADR.
Maybe it could have helped me win...we'll never know. Thanks for the game
 
Doug and Mike, thank you for being patient with me as i questioned
everything that was going on when we were putting RAT together. It was difficult
for me to break out of my single minded mode of thinking but it happened. I am
sure there was more than one time where it would have been easier to just wipe
me out and be done with it...i am glad that didn't happen. I look forward to
playing with you guys again.
 
Rene....F/G got the jump on you and it was too much to take...nice playing
with you again.
 
James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i
would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things
up...then attacked again. As you were telling me that you would move south
though you kept moving fleets north so i did have to respond...with more fleet
builds than i wanted. Nice playing with  you and i hope you are fully
recovered.
 
Buck, Mike made me do it! It was the only way out of 8 years of stalemate
until you were too strong to fight.
 
Kevin, thanks again for GMing...sorry to keep bugging you about the
resutls...the game was very intense at times.
 
I am sure i missed some thing from my perspective here but that is what i
remember the most. It was a lot of fun and very enlightening. This is one i will
not soon forget.
 
Tim
Russia
 

This message is in reply to post 22442:

MESSAGE:
 
The 3-way Austria/Russia/Turkey draw proposal has passed with a unanimous vote.
 
Thanks to all that played through the game, made orders time, and put up with my delays.  Please submit end of game statements.  A final map will be added to the website later.
 
 

There are 8 Messages in this Thread:


dc393 - Game Over (kevinokelly) Feb 10, 06:51 pm

dc393 - Game Over (FuzzyLogic) Feb 10, 08:39 pm

dc393 - Game Over (Field_Marshal_Vague) Feb 11, 06:37 pm

dc393 - Game Over (FuzzyLogic) Feb 13, 10:12 am

dc393 - Game Over (Field_Marshal_Vague) Feb 13, 05:48 pm

dc393 - Game Over (fencertim) Feb 13, 07:58 am

dc393 - Game Over (fencertim) Feb 13, 11:05 am

dc393 - Game Over (fencertim) Feb 13, 11:24 am

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