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I would and I'm sure Doug would appreciate anything you have to say about this variant or any other.you've designed. If you'd like to write about anything else feel free as we're always looking for articles. If you need any help or someone to bounce article ideas off off just let me or Doug know.

All of this goes for the rest of you as well..

Jack

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:ff96e28aa2] I would be glad to do that, but would love it even more if another player decided to.  Variant designers offer the worst commentary on their own variants - they tend to get tunnel vision from their first impressions during the design process, and miss things that fresh sets of eyes catch.
 
B.

 

On 8/29/09, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote: [quote:ff96e28aa2]okay this is Peru and your Diplomacy World variant editor and i'm writing this to you as the latter and not the former--who wants to write something for me on this variant by the end of September? don't be shy now as i know you're all good writers since most of you have lied to me in writing before...

it doesn't have to be alot...maybe some designers note from the designer Benjamin? how about something on the play of this variant from any of the players? don't make whine further because i will...

you don't have to send it to me if you're afraid of divulging your closely guarded secrets of this game to another player...you can send it to DW's managing editor Doug Kent at ♫
dougray30(at)yahoo.com...Doug is my toady and not much of a Dip player but generally a good editor and all around decent person, i mean as decent as you can be playing a game where lie and screw over other players..

if you want to see the latest issue its at...http://www.diplomacyworld.net/

jack

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:ff96e28aa2] Big ear to ear grin at "legendary" - hope you all enjoy it   One of my earlier creations, and certainly a favorite of mine.
 
- Head-Swelling B.

 

On 8/27/09, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])> wrote: [quote:ff96e28aa2] Greetings!  And welcome to this, the two-hundred and seventy-third game of diplomaticcorp diplomacy:
 
                                            "Not now, I've got to feed my llama!"
 
We've got a lineup here with some of the best in the hobby - including some new hopefuls, some dc regulars, some old-school vets, and some dinosaurs that have been around forever. 
 
This game will follow in my typical 4-season Diplomacy fashion, that is with autumn retreats and winter builds combined into one season to cut back on the minor turns.  You can always submit your build orders conditional upon the autumn retreat ordrers, if that affects what you would build.  See my house rules online for further info.  Actually, you should read them even if further info isn't really your bag of chips, or even if you dont care for info much at all.  No, even if it would make you grossly ill, you should still read the house rules.  They're that good.  Trust me.
 
For those of you got on the wrong train, you have showed up for South American Supremacy - As the train has now left the station, this is where you're going whether you like it or not - but how could you not?  With a variant created by the legendary Ben Hester, you would have the wisdom of a llama to not want to play in this one.
 
So - without delaying this any further than I already have, let's get a confirmation from all 8 players, including if you like a preference list of countries.  Even if you dont have a preference, you should still reply to me to confirm you're interested, and indicate no preference.
 
With this crowd, I'm not anticipating we'll have any long-term issues with NMRs.  I'll be running this game in my usual way, that is with processing NMR's as they fall.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
Order of the Llama
www.diplomaticcorp.com
 
 

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Mike said his map (from RP) is the official map we are working from.
So I have to agree, Ben is talking about a different version then we are using
 

From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:39:31 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers (DC-273)

Jack nailed my dilemma - I'm looking at the DipWiki version, which matches Ben's succeed/fail list. I'm also looking at the "official" map, directly from Ben's website (which you suggested, Hester!), which does not match.

Andy/Wolf

--- On Sun, 8/30/09, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4deadc4689] i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
 

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Oh, I'd say they were pretty high.  Even higher if Hester is in the room.
 

From: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:34:37 PM
Subject: Fw: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps

    If someone says they are taking the board and going home what are the odds they take the wrong board?  <scratching his chin in puzzled curiosity? >
 

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:29:07 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps

owwwww.....that hurt, if you're gonna play rough i'm not gonna play with u no more...so there.....<crosses arms and turns his back>....

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:dffbeb95bf] So I'm a sissy - what's your point.  At least I get my moves in on time.
 

 
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc..net>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps



RP is for sissies...real dipMEN don't need no stinkin' RP....;o)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:dffbeb95bf] Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?
 

 
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo..com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing.  The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site.  It is in the attached maps.  The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map.  One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean .  But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website.  Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version.  I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama
 

From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers

 
i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
  I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:dffbeb95bf]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

So I'm a sissy - what's your point. At least I get my moves in on time.



From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc..net>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps



RP is for sissies...real dipMEN don't need no stinkin' RP....;o)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:777d29c496] Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo..com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing. The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site. It is in the attached maps. The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map. One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean . But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website. Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version. I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama


From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers


i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:777d29c496]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

So I'm a sissy - what's your point. At least I get my moves in on time.



From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc..net>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps



RP is for sissies...real dipMEN don't need no stinkin' RP....;o)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:0d38299906] Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo..com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing. The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site. It is in the attached maps. The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map. One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean . But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website. Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version. I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama


From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers


i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:0d38299906]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

So I'm a sissy - what's your point. At least I get my moves in on time.



From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc..net>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps



RP is for sissies...real dipMEN don't need no stinkin' RP....;o)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:03b9e29267] Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo..com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing. The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site. It is in the attached maps. The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map. One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean . But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website. Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version. I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama


From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers


i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:03b9e29267]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

So I'm a sissy - what's your point.  At least I get my moves in on time.



From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc..net>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps



RP is for sissies...real dipMEN don't need no stinkin' RP....;o)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1720c39ff4] Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo..com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing.  The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site.  It is in the attached maps.  The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map.  One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean .  But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website.  Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version.  I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama
 

From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers

 
i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
  I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:1720c39ff4]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo..com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing. The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site. It is in the attached maps. The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map. One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean . But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website. Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version. I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama


From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers


i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:f50d81ef78]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

Since I am going to be using RP and there are all these questions around the
map - how about just sending the dpy file so we can see if we can open it?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jchdipaccount(at)gmail..com; Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu ([email]Gregory_Olson(at)brown.edu[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc273 <dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc273(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail..com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:56:17 AM
Subject: NNIGTFML - Officia Maps




Guys pls ignore the little man behind the curtain, as the moves indicated have nothing to do w the map we are actually playing.  The version we are playing is the version that is on the diplomaticcorp site.  It is in the attached maps.  The dipwiki version has two different maps, neither of which is the current map.  One of them differs around Con-Prn, the other differs around the Pacific Ocean .  But use what is posted here, and the RP file from the website.  Con is not adjacent to Prn in this version.  I’m sure the wiki will get updated when he gets around to it.
-Chief Llama
 

From: Jack McHugh [mailto: jwmchughjr(at)gmail..com ]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: NNIGTFML - Mountains & Rivers

 
i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Ben,
  I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:97ea516121]
F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

That’s right, it’s time to begin our little game, “Not now, I’ve got to feed my llama!â€Â�

(or, NNIGTFML for short) Be warned, this should not be confused w other titles that happen to share the same popular acronym, like Ned Niederhosen is Going to Frequent More Lavatories or the documentary Neutered Newts in Gory Thriller Films Making Love.

This one is South American Supremacy. Which of course begs the question in our south-of-the-border stadium – which one of you will reign supreme? As far as preferences went, you all suck. What good does it do to turn in prefs, if you’re all going to pick the same flipping thing? I mean really. So some of you got what you wanted, others got a bit hosed – but everyone will still have fun I’m sure.

Now our lineup!
We have an American group stepping up to the plate this game, in fact a pretty New England bunch if you do ask me with 6 of our 8 players shouting out from that strip between Baltimore and Maine.

Jason Argentina githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Scott Bolivia brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Jim Brazil jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email])
Greg Chile gregory_olson(at)brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson(at)brown.edu[/email])
Drew Colombia drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Alan Paraguay alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Jack Peru jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])
Andy Venezuela cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])

Now to a little matter of the first deadline: Friday Sep 4, 6pm Central / 2300 GMT. Keep in mind the following Monday is Labor Day, so if a week like this is too short for anyone for the first turn, let me know.

Next thing - PRELIMS. Use them! ‘Nuff said.

I think that’s it! Oh wait did I mention prelims? If not, use them! ‘Nuff said.

Enjoy,
-mike

[Reply]

That’s right, it’s time to begin our little game, “Not now, I’ve got to feed my llama!”
 
(or, NNIGTFML for short)  Be warned, this should not be confused w other titles that happen to share the same popular acronym, like Ned Niederhosen is Going to Frequent More Lavatories or the documentary Neutered Newts in Gory Thriller Films Making Love.
 
This one is South American Supremacy.  Which of course begs the question in our south-of-the-border stadium – which one of you will reign supreme?  As far as preferences went, you all suck.  What good does it do to turn in prefs, if you’re all going to pick the same flipping thing?  I mean really.  So some of you got what you wanted, others got a bit hosed – but everyone will still have fun I’m sure.
 
Now our lineup!
We have an American group stepping up to the plate this game, in fact a pretty New England bunch if you do ask me with 6 of our 8 players shouting out from that strip between Baltimore and Maine.
 
Jason   Argentina          githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Scott    Bolivia              brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Jim       Brazil                jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com ([email]jchdipaccount(at)gmail.com[/email])
Greg     Chile                 gregory_olson(at)brown.edu ([email]gregory_olson(at)brown.edu[/email])
Drew     Colombia          drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Alan      Paraguay          alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Jack     Peru                 jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])
Andy    Venezuela         cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])
 
Now to a little matter of the first deadline: Friday Sep 4, 6pm Central / 2300 GMT.  Keep in mind the following Monday is Labor Day, so if a week like this is too short for anyone for the first turn, let me know.
 
Next thing - PRELIMS.  Use them!  ‘Nuff said.
 
I think that’s it!  Oh wait did I mention prelims?  If not, use them!  ‘Nuff said.
 
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 

[Reply]

F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS

F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]

i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...

[Reply]

i agree with the wolf here--which map is Ben working from...in the one on the website under the DipWiki on the SAS variant Con-Prn are connected but on the map that mike sent out with the game start announcement asu cuts off con from prn and vice-versa...

[Reply]

Ben,
  I don't see a Con/Prn adjacency on your official version of the map. It looks like Asu is between them. Clarify?

Andy

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:5c5165ff82]F Con - Prn SUCCEEDS
F Con - Pan FAILS (the Parana river stops at Con and Prn)

[Reply]