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Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Player Press! - hapolley   (Nov 10, 2014, 7:28 am)
All winter orders in except for Japan Removal!================================================================GM: Except for Zealand the great powers are getting greater and small powers smaller! The Western Pacific is almost unoccupied!France advances towards the Australian front line.Indonesia surrounds Marshall_Islands homeland.Japan may hold on for a time with final two units.will the great powers finally clash in 2008?=================================================================Oceania DC508\Winter/2007 Player Press!
=================================================================    16) Marshall Islands - All (and especially one-issue-party France): Yeah, let's stop Australia, he will win this game hands down if we don't pile on top of him. Oh and Indonesia, congrats on your victory!
    15) Marshall Islands - All: I really enjoyed all the Marshall-prose. The only one that came from me was number 5.    14) Indonesia to Australia: You should have a look on NZ. If he changes to France there is much resistance against our 2-way-draw. I would build F Bri.     13) To Australia:  Building army in bri, right?  Perth is the
start.    12) France to NZ : taking back kei isn't very helpful to the cause but I can understand it and willnot try to defend it , as it was yours. From now on please help in stopping Australia.    11.  USA to Marshall: As the ruler of Indonesia did not answer - probably he does not feel the need to communicate with such a minor power as the United States - and your new proposition is in agreement with the rules, I shall order as you suggested, i. e. A maj S M A kir - smi.    10. Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: The message before wasn`t from me. Can you support Kir-Smi.    9.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: There are a lot people talking as Marshalls.    Cool USA to Indonesia: I suggest mutual support F smi S U A maj xxx, A maj S I F smi xxx.
Please note that maj and smi belong to different island chains. I also request your order F NAS - kir to cut possible support.    7) USA to Marshall: The author of press no. 4 does not know the rules of the game. A kwa - smi is not possible. The rules state clearly that "armies can move _directly_ from one island chain to another". kwa and smi, however, do not belong to different island chains.     6) USA: I think the best way is I support you into Smi.    5) Marshall Islands applauds the writer of press no 4.    4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi    3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo?  It was time for the stab!  Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN?        2) France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.        1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================

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Oceania DC508HP\Fall/2007 Results! Builds, Removal... - hapolley   (Nov 09, 2014, 7:55 pm)
=================================================================Oceania DC508HP\Fall/2007
Next deadline is for Winter 2007 on or before Remembrance day Tuesday NOV 11/2014 at 1800MT.=================================================================OCEANIA DC508HP\BUILDS-REMOVALS/2007        Aust Build 1 Units (on file)       Fran Remove 1 Unit        Indo Build 3 Units        Japa Remove 1 Unit        Mars Remove 2 Units        Zeal Build 1 Unit    =================================================================Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!=================================================================    GM: Except for Zealand the great powers are getting greater and small powers smaller! The Western Pacific is almost unoccupied! France advances towards the Australian front line.  Indonesia surrounds Marshall_Islands homeland.  Japan may hold on for a time with final two units.  Will the great powers finally clash in 2008?================================================================= Oceania DC508\FALL/2007
Press!=================================================================        Winter Proposals: Defeated!                I/F draw: no,no,no,yes,no,yes,no        2/5                A/M/N/J/U draw: no,yes,no,yes,no,no,no  2/5                DIAS : yes,no,no,yes,no,yes,no          3/5    =================================================================Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Player Press!=================================================================  
 12) France to NZ : taking back kei isn't very helpful to the cause but I can understand it and will not try to defend it , as it was yours.  From now on please help in stopping Australia.    11.  USA to Marshall: As the ruler of Indonesia did not answer - probably he does not feel the need to communicate with such a minor power as the United States - and your new proposition is in agreement with the rules, I shall order as you suggested, i. e. A maj S M A kir - smi.    10.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: The message before wasn`t from me. Can you support Kir-Smi.    9.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: There are a lot people talking as Marshalls.    Cool USA to Indonesia: I suggest mutual support F smi S U A maj xxx, A maj S I F smi xxx. Please note that maj and smi belong
to different island chains. I also request your order F NAS - kir to cut possible support.    7) USA to Marshall: The author of press no. 4 does not know the rules of the game. A kwa - smi is not possible. The rules state clearly that 'armies can move _directly_ from one island chain to another'. kwa and smi, however, do not belong to different island chains.        6) USA: I think the best way is I support you into Smi.        5) Marshall Islands applauds the writer of press no 4.        4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi    3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo?  It was time for the stab!  Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN?    2) France to NZ:
Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================RULES AND DEADLINE    -----------------------------------------------------------------    Deadlines    Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time.    Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary.    Next deadline is for Winter
2007 on or before Remembrance day Tuesday NOV 11/2014 at 1800MT.    -----------------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication    Players Use Anticipated retreats and builds!  They may be placed in brackets after orders;-        ssi-coi    Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered in list;        [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri]    =================================================================FALL TROOP MOVEMENT      Australia        : [A fij-pho],[F EFS-fij],[F SCO-EFS],F NTS-WNZ                   A van S F EFS-fij,A sci S F stu,A ntu S F stu                   F stu H ,[F pap H ],{F pap: Dislodged}France           : F ava-COS,F NSP-pap,[A sfi-fij],[F TON-EFS]                   A tog S A sfi-fij,A mar S F NSP-papIndonesia        : A wmi-wci,F WIS-EAM,F VOS-WIS,F SMS-NOM                   A nmi S F wak,A mau S F wak,F NAS S F smi     
             A emi S F smi,F pmo H ,F wak H ,F smi H                    {Illegal Movement: F pmo - SMS}Japan            : A hon S A mid,A kau S A mid                   [A mid S A kwa-wak]                  {Action Error: A mid S A kwa - wak}Marshall_Islands : A kir-pho,[A mmi-wak],F KIS S A kir-pho                   A kwa S A mmi-wakUsoa             : [A maj S A kir-smi],F chr H                 
{Action Error: A maj S A kir - smi}Zealand          : F cha-SWP,F ENZ S F kei,F kei H        -----------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOBILIZATION RETREATS WT/2007        Australia: Retreats F pap - LIS                        : DANGER! Marshall_Islands MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!                        : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!                        :
DANGER! Japan has No Home Centers Left!,                        : DANGER! Japan MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!-----------------------------------------------------------------    FALL TROOP STATUS      Australia        ( 9): F EFS, A fij, A ntu, A sci, F SCO, F stu                       A van, F WNZ, F LISFrance           ( 6): F COS, A mar, F pap, A sfi, A tog, F TONIndonesia        (11): F EAM, A emi, A mau, F NAS, A nmi, F NOM       
               F pmo, F smi, F wak, A wci, F WISJapan            ( 3): A hon, A kau, A midMarshall_Islands ( 4): F KIS, A kwa, A mmi, A phoUsoa             ( 2): F chr, A majZealand          ( 3): F ENZ, F kei, F SWPTotal =          ( 37)                -----------------------------------------------------------------    WINTER SUPPLY CENTER STATUS    WT\2007          |# SC|  [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER)  =================================================================Australia        |(10)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi],fij,hob,nou,per,sci                        ssi,stuFrance           |( 5)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit],mar,togIndonesia        |(14)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu                        nsh](smi),dav,eci,mau,pmo,sam,wak,wciJapan            |( 2)|,hon,midMarshall_Islands |( 2)|[MARS,kwa],phoUsoa             |( 2)|[USOA,chr](maj)Zealand          |( 4)|[ZEAL,chc,wel,kei],cha=================================================================Total =           ( 39)        

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12 hours till deadline! Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Pr... - hapolley   (Nov 09, 2014, 6:46 am)
=================================================================12 hours till deadline! Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Press!=================================================================    3 Winter Proposals: Vote with your Spring and Fall moves!        I/F draw:        A/M/N/J/U draw:        DIAS :=================================================================Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Player Press!=================================================================    11.  USA to Marshall: As the ruler of Indonesia did not answer - probably he does not feel the need to communicate with such a minor power as the United States - and your new proposition is in agreement with the rules, I shall order as you suggested, i. e. A maj S M A kir - smi.==================================================================    10.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: The message before wasn`t from me. Can you support Kir-Smi.    9.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: There are a lot people talking as Marshalls.    Cool USA to Indonesia: I suggest mutual support F smi S U A maj xxx, A maj S I F smi xxx. Please note that maj and smi belong to different
island chains. I also request your order F NAS - kir to cut possible support.    7) USA to Marshall: The author of press no. 4 does not know the rules of the game. A kwa - smi is not possible. The rules state clearly that "armies can move _directly_ from one island chain to another". kwa and smi, however, do not belong to different island chains.     6) USA: I think the best way is I support you into Smi.    5) Marshall Islands applauds the writer of press no 4.    4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi    3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo?  It was time for the stab!  Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN?        2) France to NZ:
Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.        1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================

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Less than 24 to go! Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Press!... - hapolley   (Nov 08, 2014, 9:00 pm)
=================================================================    Rule Review and Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Player Press!
=================================================================    3 Winter Proposals: Vote with your Spring and Fall moves!        I/F draw:        A/M/N/J/U draw:        DIAS :=================================================================    GM: Maj and Smi are one of those strange places connected by arrows you can move between
these two spots even though 2 seas separate them.
    Kwa can move to, or support the chain island of smi, as they have a common sea boarder WEM. So number 4 is correct. The rule is badly written but the word Chain can refer to a part of multi attached Islands as well as to a whole group of attached Islands. The precedent was set two games ago in my adjudicator and so stands. The need for commonalty of rules rather than rules with exceptions was the deciding factor. Armies can move directly from one chain island to another if they border the same sea province is the common rule.        '3. The most important feature is that armies can move   
 directly from one island chain to another ("island hopping"Wink     as long as both chains (independent of being multi-spaced or     single-spaced) border the same sea province.'        10.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: The message before wasn`t from me. Can you support Kir-Smi.    9.Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: There are a lot people talking as Marshalls.    Cool USA to Indonesia: I suggest mutual support F smi S U A maj xxx, A maj S I F smi xxx. Please note that maj and smi belong to different island chains. I also request your order F NAS - kir to cut possible
support.    7) USA to Marshall: The author of press no. 4 does not know the rules of the game. A kwa - smi is not possible. The rules state clearly that "armies can move _directly_ from one island chain to another". kwa and smi, however, do not belong to different island chains.     6) USA: I think the best way is I support you into Smi.    5) Marshall Islands applauds the writer of press no 4.    4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi    3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo?  It was time for the stab!  Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN?        2) France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me
and let Australia win.        1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================

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More Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 07, 2014, 2:40 pm)
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Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Press!=================================================================    3 Winter Proposals: Vote with your Spring and Fall moves!        I/F draw:        A/M/N/J/U draw:        DIAS :=================================================================    Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Player Press!=================================================================    6) USA: I think the best way is I support you into Smi.    5) Marshall Islands applauds the writer of press no 4.    4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi    3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo?  It was time for the stab!  Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN?        2) France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.        1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================

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Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 07, 2014, 7:17 am)
=================================================================Oceania DC508\FALL/2007 Press!=================================================================    3 Winter Proposals: Vote with your Spring and Fall moves!        I/F draw:        A/M/N/J/U draw:        DIAS :=================================================================    Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Player Press!=================================================================    4) Marshalls to USA.USA.USA: Can you support Kwa-Smi    3) Why is Indonesia wasting time going to wmi and pmo?  It was time for the stab!  Don't wish to even TRY for the WIN?        2) France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.        1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================
GM - More draw proposals are made for your consideration See Press. Japan bugs out of Wake just in time as Indonesia moves in! Marshall_Islands under pressure from all sides as
USoA sneaks into Maj, and Fleet stu is destroyed by Australia. Better news down south as Zealand takes back her Home Supply Center of Kei! Will France counter attack or let it go as Australia closes in on some of her SC's, pap and tog?        SC Count: IA/Board=20/19 If I/A were single country game would be over!=================================================================

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Oceania DC508\SPRING-SUMMER/2007 RESULTS! Fall mo... - hapolley   (Nov 06, 2014, 8:26 pm)
=================================================================Oceania DC508HP\Summer/2007    GM - More draw proposals are made for your consideration See Press. Japan bugs out of Wake just in time as Indonesia moves in! Marshall_Islands under pressure from all sides as USoA sneaks into Maj, and Fleet stu is destroyed by Australia. Better news down south as Zealand takes back her Home Supply Center of Kei! Will France counter attack or let it go as Australia closes in on some of her SC's, pap and tog?        SC Count: IA/Board=20/19 If I/A were single country game would be over!=================================================================RULES AND DEADLINE    -----------------------------------------------------------------    Deadlines    Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time.    Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary.    Next deadline is for Spring 2007 on Sunday NOV 9/2014 at 1800MT.    -----------------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication    Players Use Anticipated retreats and builds!  They may be placed in brackets after orders;-        ssi-coi    Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered in list;        [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri]    =================================================================OCEANIA DC508HP\SPRING/2007 RESULTS-----------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOVEMENT      Australia        : A van-fij,F TUS-stu,A ssi-van,[F EFS-SAS]                   F LIS-pap,[F SCO-EFS],A sci S A ntu                   A ntu S F TUS-stu,F NTS HFrance           : A kei-sfi,[F TON-kei],[F ava-TON],A pap-mar                   F pit-NSP,A tog HIndonesia        : F NOM-smi,F SOS-SMS,[F WIS-mid],F WEM-wak                   A eci-emi,A wci-nmi,A nsh-mau,F jay-pmo                   A sor-wmi,F NAS S F NOM-smi,F VOS S A nsh-mauJapan            : A mid-kau,A mau-mid,A
hon S A mau-midMarshall_Islands : A smi-mmi,[A kir-smi],F SAS-KIS,[F stu-SAS]                   A wak-kwa,{F stu: Dislodged}Usoa             : A pho-maj,F chr HZealand          : F SWP-cha,F WNZ-kei,F ENZ S F WNZ-kei    -----------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOBILZATION RETREATS SU/2007:        Mars N stu TO OTB    -----------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP
STATUS    SU\2007          |  =================================================================Australia        | F EFS, A fij, F NTS, A ntu, F pap, A sci                   F SCO, F stu, A vanFrance           | F ava, A mar, F NSP, A sfi, A tog, F TONIndonesia        | A emi, A mau, F NAS, A nmi, F pmo, F smi                   F SMS, F VOS, F wak, F WIS, A wmiJapan            | A hon, A kau, A midMarshall_Islands | A kir, F KIS, A
kwa, A mmiUsoa             | F chr, A majZealand          | F cha, F ENZ, F kei=================================================================    -----------------------------------------------------------------    SUPPLY CENTER STATUS    SU\2007          |# SC|  [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER)  =================================================================Australia        |( 9)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi],fij,hob,nou,per,sci,ssiFrance           |(
6)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit](kei),mar,togIndonesia        |(11)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh],dav                        eci,pmo,sam,wciJapan            |( 3)|,hon,mau,midMarshall_Islands |( 5)|[MARS,kwa,smi,maj],stu,wakUsoa             |( 2)|[USOA,chr],phoZealand          |( 3)|[ZEAL,chc,wel],cha=================================================================Total =           ( 39)    =================================================================Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press!=================================================================    3 Winter Proposals: Vote with your Spring and Fall moves!        I/F draw:        A/M/N/J/U draw:        DIAS :=================================================================-----------------------------------------------------------------    Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Player Press!=================================================================    9) GM: I think this topic, my inadvertent reply to wrong player, has had enough press!  I will no longer
publish press on this topic, please move along to fresher topics.    Cool Indonesia to all: It is very unfair what is happening. France and I am not knowing each other. We only know our names because of a mistake of the GM. France and I are not looking for a 2-way-draw. There was no contact you didn`t see. Making mood against us and claim we would betray is absolutely unfair. If I were GM I would not post this press. Because it is bare of all arguments. And I have to say that I don`t wanted to know France name because only of this information my relationship to Australia is in danger. Australia I hope you believe me and not somebody unfair and helpless.    7) Non writer of numbers 4 & 6: It might not be a bad idea, if Australia is game (and willing to forego his own victory), to go forth and fight the two nations that know each other and, apparently, aim for a two-way draw.
How about going for a five-way excluding Indonesia & France? Gunboat it is no longer anyway.    6) Statement no. 4 is correct: Knowing another player in a gunboat game is a big advantage even without direct communication.    5)France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.    4) The good thing with gunboat is that you don't know the player. And thereby not the players psychological profile. Is he a partner to the end, is he a stabbing type if you turn your back to him, is he revengeful to the end if you have crossed him or is he a labdog.  Even if the two players don't communicate with one another they still know these facts.    3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join
Indonesia and can promise you all I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GM in the first place.  GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.=================================================================

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Final Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 06, 2014, 2:44 pm)
All prelims are in! 4 hours till deadline! Unlikely I will be on line again till deadline.==========================================================Winter Proposals: Vote with your Spring and Fall moves!I/F draw: A/M/N/J/U drawVery HappyIAS :========================================================== Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press!:==========================================================   7) Non writer of numbers 4 & 6: It might not be a bad idea, if Australia is game (and willing to forego his own victory), to go forth and fight the two nations that know each other and, apparently, aim for a two-way draw. How about going for a five-way excluding Indonesia & France? Gunboat it is no longer anyway.=========================================================   6) Statement no. 4 is correct: Knowing another player in a gunboat game is a big advantage even without direct communication.   5)France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.   4) The good thing with gunboat is that you don't know the player. And thereby not the players psychological profile. Is he a partner to the end, is he a stabbing type if you
turn your back to him, is he revengeful to the end if you have crossed him or is he a labdog. Even if the two players don't communicate with one another they still know these facts.   3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join Indonesia andcan promise you all I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GMin the first place.GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So
either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.==========================================================

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20 hours to red line! Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Pr... - hapolley   (Nov 05, 2014, 11:57 pm)
Four sets short!  Have begun re-writing spell checker code about 200 lines to repair.  At my snail coding pace about a 3 day project.========================================================== Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press!:==========================================================   6) Statement no. 4 is correct: Knowing another player in a gunboat game is a big advantage even without direct communication. GM: In my case, only if you have played with or against that player in a significant
way.   5)France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.   4) The good thing with gunboat is that you don't know the player. And thereby not the players psychological profile. Is he a partner to the end, is he a stabbing type if you turn your back to him, is he revengeful to the end if you have crossed him or is he a labdog. Even if the two players don't communicate with one another they still know these facts.   3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join Indonesia andcan promise you all I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GMin the first place.GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.==========================================================

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Missing Prelims for Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007! 36... - hapolley   (Nov 05, 2014, 6:58 am)
If your receiving this I have no prelims from you with about 36 hours to go!Find below unit positions and attached Named Map.
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TROOP STATUS    WT\2006          |  UNITS|   POSITIONS  =================================================================Australia        | (  9) |F EFS, F LIS, F NTS, A ntu, A sci                          F SCO, A ssi, F TUS, A vanFrance           | (  6) |F ava, A kei, A pap, F pit, A tog                          F TONIndonesia        | ( 11) |A eci, F jay, F NAS, F NOM, A nsh                          A sor, F SOS, F VOS, A wci, F WEM,F WISJapan            | (  3)
|A hon, A mau, A midMarshall_Islands | (  5) |A kir, F SAS, A smi, F stu, A wakUsoa             | (  2) |F chr, A phoZealand          | (  3) |F ENZ, F SWP, F WNZ=================================================================Total              (   ) ( 39)
    GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to.    In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game balance.    When an Auto retreat goes to same place as an actual retreat the actual retreat goes and the auto retreat is an OTB.  It is this way mostly because of the difficulty of programming it to be otherwise
and because having an auto retreat defeat a sent in retreat does not seem right.    GM - A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia fails with 3 YES and 2 NO! Australia/France successfully defends Tog and dislodges F TON, but is dislodged from control of WNZ by Zealand. As stu is double Island stu retreats to ntu which results in a unit removal for Australia! Indonesia creeps Eastward. Japan holds on without any hope of Build. USoA support to stu not needed by Marshall, USA must remove a unit thanks to Japan in hon. Zealand begins to force back the French with Australia looking on.
========================================================== Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press!:==========================================================   5)France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.   4) The good thing with gunboat is that you don't know the player. And thereby not the players psychological profile. Is he a partner to the end, is he a stabbing type if you turn your back to him, is he revengeful to the end if you have crossed him or is he a labdog. Even if the two players don't communicate with one another they still know these facts.   3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join Indonesia andcan promise you all
I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GMin the first place.GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.==========================================================

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Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 04, 2014, 7:20 pm)
========================================================== Oceania DC508\SPRING/2007 Press!:==========================================================   5)France to NZ: Please join me in the attempt to stop Australia, no use in attacking me and let Australia win.   4) The good thing with gunboat is that you don't know the player. And thereby not the players psychological profile. Is he a partner to the end, is he a stabbing type if you turn your back to him, is he revengeful to the end if you have crossed him or is he a labdog. Even if the two players don't communicate with one another they still know these facts.==========================================================   3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join Indonesia andcan promise you all I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GMin the first place.GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is
much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.==========================================================

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Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 04, 2014, 1:54 pm)
========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================   3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join Indonesia andcan promise you all I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GMin the first place.GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.==========================================================

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Oceania DC508HP\Winter/2006 RESULTS! - hapolley   (Nov 04, 2014, 10:14 am)
Indonesia has replaced Australia as the Boards superpower!

Next deadline is for Spring 2007 on Thursday NOV 6/2014 at 1800MT.

[Player: I find it very concerning that two player know each other.]GM: I agree which is why I CC last result to M Sims.  It is just about the worst error that can happen in a gunboat game.  Still one player has promised not to communicate with the other except by press, See 12.I did a cut and paste and for some reason perhaps the old cut and paste stayed in, got the wrong result. I did not notice this as I was working very fast to clean up previous error.  In life that is often why errors compound; so the battle can go on..
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Oceania DC508HP\Winter/2006 RESULTS---------------------------------------------------------------    Deadlines    Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time.    Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary.    Next deadline is for Spring 2007 on Thursday NOV 6/2014 at 1800MT.    ----------------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication    Players Use Anticipated retreats and builds!  They may be placed in brackets after orders;-        ssi-coi    Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered in list;        [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri]    -----------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOBILIZATION BUILDS & RETREATS WT/2006:                                     
       : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!                       : DANGER! Japan has No Home Centers Left!    Australia        : Retreats F TON - EFS,AUTO RETREAT: A stu-ntu                     : Remove; A ade    France           : Build; A pap, F pit,                     : AUTO RETREAT EFS Conflict: F WNZ OTBd    Indonesia        : Build; F jay, A sor    Marshall_Islands : Build; A smi    Usoa        
    : Remove; F COS        -----------------------------------------------------------------    SUPPLY CENTER STATUS    WT\2006          |# SC|  [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER)  =================================================================Australia        |( 9)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi],fij,hob,nou,per,sci,ssiFrance           |( 6)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit](kei),mar,togIndonesia        |(11)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh],dav             
          eci,pmo,sam,wciJapan            |( 3)|,hon,mau,midMarshall_Islands |( 5)|[MARS,kwa,smi,maj],stu,wakUsoa             |( 2)|[USOA,chr],phoZealand          |( 3)|[ZEAL,chc,wel],cha=================================================================Total =           ( 39)        -----------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP STATUS    WT\2006          |  UNITS|
  POSITIONS  =================================================================Australia        | (  9) |F EFS, F LIS, F NTS, A ntu, A sci                          F SCO, A ssi, F TUS, A vanFrance           | (  6) |F ava, A kei, A pap, F pit, A tog                          F TONIndonesia        | ( 11) |A eci, F jay, F NAS, F NOM, A nsh                          A sor, F SOS, F VOS, A wci, F WEM,F WISJapan            | (
 3) |A hon, A mau, A midMarshall_Islands | (  5) |A kir, F SAS, A smi, F stu, A wakUsoa             | (  2) |F chr, A phoZealand          | (  3) |F ENZ, F SWP, F WNZ=================================================================Total              (   ) ( 39)        =================================================================Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!=================================================================[Player: I find it very concerning that two player know each
other.]GM: I agree which is why I CC last result to M Sims.  It is just about the worst error that can happen in a gunboat game.  Still one player has promised not to communicate with the other except by press, See 12.I did a cut and paste and for some reason perhaps the old cut and paste stayed in, got the wrong result. I did not notice this as I was working very fast to clean up previous error.  In life that is often why errors compound; so the battle can go on..=================================================================----------------------------------------------------------------    Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Player Press!=================================================================        12)
Indonesia to all: I understand your concerns. This was a mistake of the GM. But what shall we do? End the game. Why it is very interesting? Exchange players? Not a good idea because it changes the game. I can assure you that I will not contact France because it is against the sense of the game. It would be unfair if the game is changed so. It would take the fun away and I hope you will trust me that I do as I say.        GM: For game play reasons I am verifing this is from the Indonesian Player.     11) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like
running the game.    10) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.    9) Indonesia get ALL of Marshall Islands and OZ has to fight France.        Cool France and Indonesia know each other.  What me worry?    7)  Indonesia to Australia:  I voted for our draw, I guess France didn't, but who else wants to play on?    6)  Indonesia to Australia:  I voted for our draw, I guess France didn't, but who else wants to play on?    5) Indonesia to Australia: I read carefully. Don`t worry I`m at your side.        4) Is Indonesia
going to stab Australia and go for the win?        3) Maybe the 2 way draw should be France and Indonesia?    2) A Friend -> OZ you are such a tool!  Give any of the rest of us your position and we would've done better.    1) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck.

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Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! Concerning error. - hapolley   (Nov 04, 2014, 8:45 am)
[Player: I find it very concerning that two player know each other.]
GM: I agree which is why I CC last result to M Sims.  It is just about the worst error that can happen in a gunboat game.  Still one player has promised not to communicate with the other except by press. So the battle can go on.
I did a cut and paste and for some reason got the wrong result.I did not notice this as I was working very fast to clean up previous error.  In life that is often why
errors compound.I am now working on making my spell checker better at handling compound names, dash names and period names and names with numbers in them. ========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================    11) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.==========================================================    10) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.    9) Indonesia get ALL of Marshall Islands and OZ has to fight France.    Cool France and Indonesia know each other.  What me worry?
    7)  Indonesia to Australia:  I voted for our draw, I guess France didn't, but who else wants to play on?    6)  Indonesia to Australia:  I voted for our draw, I guess France didn't, but who else wants to play on?    5) Indonesia to Australia: I read carefully. Don`t worry I`m at your side.    4) Is Indonesia going to stab Australia and go for the win?    3) Maybe the 2 way draw should be France and Indonesia?    2) A Friend -> OZ you are such a tool!  Give any of the rest of us your position and we would've done better.    1) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. ==========================================================

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Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! Deadline in 15 ho... - hapolley   (Nov 04, 2014, 4:11 am)
========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================    10) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.
    9) Indonesia get ALL of Marshall Islands and OZ has to fight France.    Cool France and Indonesia know each other.  What me worry?
    7)  Indonesia to Australia:  I voted for our draw, I guess France didn't, but who else
wants to play on?    6)  Indonesia to Australia:  I voted for our draw, I guess France didn't, but who else wants to play on?==========================================================    5) Indonesia to Australia: I read carefully. Don`t worry I`m at your side.    4) Is Indonesia going to stab Australia and go for the win?    3) Maybe the 2 way draw should be France and Indonesia?    2) A Friend -> OZ you are such a tool!  Give any of the rest of us your position and we would've done better.    1) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. 

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Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 03, 2014, 9:36 am)
========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================    5) Indonesia to Australia: I read carefully. Don`t worry I`m at your side.==========================================================    4) Is Indonesia going to stab Australia and go for the win?    3) Maybe the 2 way draw should be France and Indonesia?    2) A Friend -> OZ you are such a tool!  Give any of the rest of us your position and we would've done better.    1) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. ==========================================================

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Revised: Oceania DC508HP\Fall/2006 Results! - hapolley   (Nov 03, 2014, 9:27 am)
===========================================================Oceania DC508HP\Fall/2006        Once again I did not pay close enough attention to the long names and messed up Indonesia orders by incorrectly entering the long names.  This will actually be of some help to me when I go to create the Adjudicator in Free Basic.  It will be an open source project.        Good news is it only affected unit positions and nothing else. So Teleport was too strong a word, legal move order screw up by GM would be better.        Bad news is email error resulted
in Indonesia and France knowing one another true names.  I ask that they continue to use press and not email one another.
Some Builds and Removals on file.    BUILDS AND REMOVALS:        Aust Remove 1 Unit        Fran Build 2 Units        Indo Build 2 Units        Mars Build 1 Unit        Usoa Remove 1 Unit-----------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOBILZATION RETREATS after Fall        Australia        : Retreats F TON - EFS, Auto A stu - ntu        France           : AUTO RETREAT EFS Conflict: F WNZ OTBd                                        : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!                                   
    : DANGER! Japan has No Home Centers Left!-----------------------------------------------------------    SUPPLY CENTER STATUS    WT\2006          |# SC|  [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER)  ===========================================================Australia        |( 9)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi],fij,hob,nou,per,sci,ssiFrance           |( 6)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit](kei),mar,togIndonesia        |(11)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh],dav                        eci,pmo,sam,wciJapan
           |( 3)|,hon,mau,midMarshall_Islands |( 5)|[MARS,kwa,smi,maj],stu,wakUsoa             |( 2)|[USOA,chr],phoZealand          |( 3)|[ZEAL,chc,wel],cha===========================================================Total =           ( 39)    ====================================================================================================================Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!==========================================================    9) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated
moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. ==========================================================        Cool Marshall Islands - France: Fine with me.        7) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually work together? Let's try it.        6) USA, USA, USA to F: You are right: F SAS - TUS will not help the Ozzies, if I order A pho S M A kir - fij or A pho S M A kir - stu - they can only block one of these attacks. They might order F SAS - pho instead, but even then M can get fij or stu, because A kir can support F TUS or vice versa. So the American government supports the French proposal.        5) France to USA and Marshalls: The plan of the USA don`t works because of SAS-TUS. If we play KES-TON,
PHS-COS,KIS-SAS,kir-stu or TUS-stu we have the maximal output. tog, ava and pho are safe and Marshalls has a 50% chance to win either stu or fij. Is that okay for you?        4) France to NZ: I hope you see the signs        3) USA, USA, USA => Marshall: You cannot defend your islands against the Ozzies. Oh, but you know what I mean, there's just too many of them. We have to collaborate to push them back. There is a great way to do this in Fall: A kir - sci, A pho - stu, F PHS - pho, F TUS S U A pho - stu, F KIS - SAS. This way A is guaranteed to lose a sc this year, unless F SMS - TUS. But I would be a fool to help her only rival for world domination...        2) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Nice to see the greater view, but as far as I'm concerned I'm defending my homelands. This should prevent
annihilation of the Islands, that's my primal concern. We're not the lamb that can be sacrificed for the greater good.    1) Marshall Islands - Anonymous (Indonesia?USA?): The Marshall Plan is to win. Or to be an annoyance to the countries who try to prevent it. USA USA USA in this case. That this favours other countries, well, that's just Oceanic life isn't it? ===========================================================        GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game
balance.        GM - A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia is voted on with 3 YES and 2 NO! Australia/France successfully defends Tog and dislodges F TON, but is dislodged from control of WNZ by Zealand. As stu is double Island stu retreats to ntu which results in a unit removal for Australia! Indonesia creeps Eastward while trying to teleport WIS to WMS. Japan holds on without any hope of Build. USoA support to stu not needed by Marshall, USA must remove a unit thanks to Japan in hon. Zealand begins to force back the French with Australia looking on.        When an Auto retreat goes to same place as an actual retreat the actual retreat goes and the auto retreat is an OTB.  It is this way mostly because of the difficulty of programming it to be otherwise.===========================================================RULES AND DEADLINE-----------------------------------------------------------    Deadlines    Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time.    Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary.    Next deadline is for Winter Builds and Removals on Tuesday NOV 4/2014 at 1800MT.    -----------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication    Players Use Anticipated retreats
and builds!  They may be placed in brackets after orders;-        ssi-coi    Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered in list;        [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri]    -----------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication Notes    GM: Because of the way I handle orders you can send in general orders for retreats, Builds and move orders. They need to be based on an existing or not existing unit.  eg. If army hon then move A wak to mni; if no A hon then move Wak to hon.  Always retreat ber to pru. Standing Builds F Con, F Smy, A Ank.  When no order exists on
that turn the standing order will be used!    If you send in no anticipated retreat then the computer makes one for you. It checks for your Home build SC, Then your regular SC, Then other Home SC, then other regular SC, then best area by most adjacent numbers, then by first it comes to in move check list.    -----------------------------------------------------------    PRESS RULES    Press sent in with orders gets published with Results, not separately!  Send in press you want sent out within 12 hrs as separate email from orders.  I will try to do better than every 12 hrs but it is not guaranteed. Note Press will be numbered as received with newest on top. Game Master and GM bylines are reserved otherwise black press rules
apply.-----------------------------------------------------------    OCEANIA DC508HP\FALL/2006 RESULTSRETREATS:        Fran F WNZ TO EFS,wni,sou,OTB        Aust retreat F TON TO EFS        Aust retreat A stu TO ntu-----------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOVEMENT      Australia        : F COS-LIS,F SAS-TUS,[F TON-tog],A nou-van                   [F SCO-NIS],A noa-ade,[F NTS-NIS] 
                 [A stu S F TON-tog],A sci S A nou-van                   A ssi S A sci                    {A stu: Dislodged},{F TON: Dislodged}France           : [F WNZ-NIS],F KES-TON,F ava S F KES-TON                   [A tog S F ava],A kei S A tog                   {F WNZ: Dislodged}Indonesia        : F SMS-NAS,F WMS-SOS,F CIS-NOM,F WIS-WEM                   F nmi-WIS,A ryu-nsh,A wci-eci,A wmi-wci                   F VOS S A ryu-nshJapan            : A hon S A mid,A mau S A wak,A mid S A mauMarshall_Islands : F TUS-stu,F KIS-SAS,A kir S F TUS-stu                   A wak S A mauUsoa             : F SHS-chr,F PHS-COS,[A pho S A kir-stu]                  {Action Error: A pho S A kir - stu}Zealand          : F cha-SWP,F chc-WNZ,F ENZ S F chc-WNZNeutral          :    -----------------------------------------------------------    TROOP STATUS      Australia        ( 10): A ade, F LIS, F NTS, A sci, F SCO, A ssi                       F TUS, A van, A ntu, F EFSFrance           ( 4): F ava, A kei, A tog, F TONIndonesia        ( 9): A eci, F NAS, F NOM, A nsh, F SOS, F VOS                       A wci, F WEM, F WISJapan            ( 3): A hon, A mau, A midMarshall_Islands ( 4): A
kir, F SAS, F stu, A wakUsoa             ( 3): F chr, F COS, A phoZealand          ( 3): F ENZ, F SWP, F WNZNeutral          ( 0):Total =          ( 34)    

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Operator Error: Oceania DC508\FALL/2006 Results - hapolley   (Nov 03, 2014, 8:02 am)
Once again I had trouble with the full names in part because I never inputed enough variations into my spell checker and have the spell checker eliminating SEA as unnecessary word.
WIS-WEM, CIS-NOM ordered!  
F Wake Island Sea - Western Marshall Sea
F Caroline Islands Sea - Northeastern Micronesia Sea
I will fix the problems and output new results shortly.

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Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! - hapolley   (Nov 02, 2014, 11:40 pm)
========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================    4) Is Indonesia going to stab Australia and go for the win?    3) Maybe the 2 way draw should be France and Indonesia?    2) A Friend -> OZ you are such a tool!  Give any of the rest of us your position and we would've done better.    1) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. ==========================================================GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game balance.    GM - A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia is voted on with 3 YES and 2 NO! Australia/France successfully defends Tog and dislodges F TON, but is dislodged from control of WNZ by Zealand. As stu is double Island stu retreats to ntu which results in a unit removal for Australia! Indonesia creeps Eastward while trying to teleport WIS to
WMS. Japan holds on without any hope of Build. USoA support to stu not needed by Marshall, USA must remove a unit thanks to Japan in hon. Zealand begins to force back the French with Australia looking on.        When an Auto retreat goes to same place as an actual retreat the actual retreat goes and the auto retreat is an OTB.  It is this way mostly because of the difficulty of programming it to be otherwise.

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Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! (dc508) hapolley Nov 03, 09:36 am
========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================    5) Indonesia to Australia: I read carefully. Don`t worry I`m at your side.==========================================================    4) Is Indonesia going to stab Australia and go for the win?    3) Maybe the 2 way draw should be France and Indonesia?    2) A Friend -> OZ you are such a tool!  Give any of the rest of us your position and we would've done better.    1) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. ==========================================================
Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press! (dc508) hapolley Nov 04, 01:54 pm
========================================================== Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!:==========================================================   3) France to all : Since this mistake has taken so much attention.I would like to clarify that I join Indonesia andcan promise you all I shall not contact him . Otherwise I wouldn't had brought all this into the attention of the GMin the first place.GM: in interest of game play, this is from France.    2) Japan/Marshall/NewZealand/USAUSAUSA - Indonesia: Why should I not play on? If you want a two-way, good luck, but I won't surrender until I'm gone, and I wonder if a stalemate is possible in this variant. So either propose a DIAS or show me that a 2-way is really a likely result. I think not! GM two cents: forming a stalemate line in this game is much harder than in other ones which is why I like running the game.    1) Nobody has ever won this variant but Japan.  Looks like our current fearless leaders want a draw and keep Japan's record intact.==========================================================
Oceania DC508HP\Fall/2006 Results! Removals and B... - hapolley   (Nov 02, 2014, 8:32 pm)
Oceania DC508HP\Fall/2006======================================================================
BUILDS AND REMOVALS:        Aust Remove 1 Unit        Fran Build 2 Units        Indo Build 2 Units        Mars Build 1 Unit        Usoa Remove 1 Unit--------------------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOBILZATION RETREATS after Fall        Australia        : Retreats F TON - EFS, Auto A stu - ntu        France           : AUTO RETREAT EFS Conflict: F WNZ OTBd                                        : DANGER! Usoa MILITARY MORALE VERY LOW!                                        : DANGER! Japan has No Home Centers Left!
 When an Auto retreat goes to same place as an actual retreat the actual
retreat goes and the auto retreat is an OTB.  It is this way mostly because of the difficulty of programming it to be otherwise.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------    SUPPLY CENTER STATUS    WT\2006          |# SC|  [HOME SUPPLY CENTER] (BUILD CENTER)  =================================================================Australia        |( 9)|[AUST,cai,bri,coi],fij,hob,nou,per,sci,ssiFrance           |( 6)|[FRAN,ava,pap,pit](kei),mar,togIndonesia        |(11)|[INDO,jay,sor,tim][JAPA,man,ryu,nsh],dav   
                    eci,pmo,sam,wciJapan            |( 3)|,hon,mau,midMarshall_Islands |( 5)|[MARS,kwa,smi,maj],stu,wakUsoa             |( 2)|[USOA,chr],phoZealand          |( 3)|[ZEAL,chc,wel],cha=================================================================Total =           ( 39)    ================================================================================================================================Oceania DC508\WINTER/2006 Press!==========================================================    9) Australia to Indonesia: I hope you read the coordinated moves from MUF. It looks like you have a open flank wak and kir. Good Luck. ==========================================================        Cool Marshall Islands - France: Fine with me.        7) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually work together? Let's try it.        6) USA, USA, USA to F: You are right: F SAS - TUS will not help the Ozzies, if I order A pho S M A kir - fij or A pho S M A kir - stu - they can only block one of these attacks. They might order F SAS - pho instead, but even then M can get fij or stu, because A kir can support F TUS or vice versa. So the American government supports the French
proposal.        5) France to USA and Marshalls: The plan of the USA don`t works because of SAS-TUS. If we play KES-TON, PHS-COS,KIS-SAS,kir-stu or TUS-stu we have the maximal output. tog, ava and pho are safe and Marshalls has a 50% chance to win either stu or fij. Is that okay for you?        4) France to NZ: I hope you see the signs        3) USA, USA, USA => Marshall: You cannot defend your islands against the Ozzies. Oh, but you know what I mean, there's just too many of them. We have to collaborate to push them back. There is a great way to do this in Fall: A kir - sci, A pho - stu, F PHS - pho, F TUS S U A pho - stu, F KIS - SAS. This way A is guaranteed to lose a sc this year, unless F SMS - TUS. But I would be a fool to help her only rival for world domination...        2) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Nice to see the greater view, but as far as I'm concerned I'm defending my homelands. This should prevent annihilation of the Islands, that's my primal concern. We're not the lamb that can be sacrificed for the greater good.    1) Marshall Islands - Anonymous (Indonesia?USA?): The Marshall Plan is to win. Or to be an annoyance to the countries who try to prevent it. USA USA USA in this case. That this favours other countries, well, that's just Oceanic life isn't it? ==========================================================        GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes
they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game balance.        GM - A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia is voted on with 3 YES and 2 NO! Australia/France successfully defends Tog and dislodges F TON, but is dislodged from control of WNZ by Zealand. As stu is double Island stu retreats to ntu which results in a unit removal for Australia! Indonesia creeps Eastward while trying to teleport WIS to WMS. Japan holds on without any hope of Build. USoA support to stu not needed by Marshall, USA must remove a unit thanks to Japan in hon. Zealand begins to force back the French with Australia looking on.        When an Auto retreat goes to same place as an actual retreat the actual
retreat goes and the auto retreat is an OTB.  It is this way mostly because of the difficulty of programming it to be otherwise.======================================================================RULES AND DEADLINE--------------------------------------------------------------------------    Deadlines    Will be every Thursday (spring/summer) and Sunday (fall/winter) at 1800MT Calgary time.    Winter Builds/Removals will be stretched to no later than Tuesday if necessary.    Next deadline is for Winter Builds and Removals on Tuesday NOV 4/2014 at 1800MT.    --------------------------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication    Players Use Anticipated retreats and builds!  They may be placed in brackets after orders;-        ssi-coi    Fall/Winter Builds will be made as encountered in list;        [BUILD: F coi,F cai, A bri]    --------------------------------------------------------------------------    Adjudication Notes    GM: Because of the way I handle orders you can send in general orders for retreats,
Builds and move orders. They need to be based on an existing or not existing unit.  eg. If army hon then move A wak to mni; if no A hon then move Wak to hon.  Always retreat ber to pru. Standing Builds F Con, F Smy, A Ank.  When no order exists on that turn the standing order will be used!    If you send in no anticipated retreat then the computer makes one for you. It checks for your Home build SC, Then your regular SC, Then other Home SC, then other regular SC, then best area by most adjacent numbers, then by first it comes to in move check list.    --------------------------------------------------------------------------    PRESS RULES    Press sent in with orders gets published with Results, not separately!
 Send in press you want sent out within 12 hrs as separate email from orders.  I will try to do better than every 12 hrs but it is not guaranteed. Note Press will be numbered as received with newest on top. Game Master and GM bylines are reserved otherwise black press rules apply.--------------------------------------------------------------------------    OCEANIA DC508HP\FALL/2006 RESULTSRETREATS:        Fran F WNZ TO EFS,wni,sou,OTB        Aust retreat F TON TO EFS        Aust retreat A stu TO ntu--------------------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP MOVEMENT 
    Australia        : F COS-LIS,F SAS-TUS,[F TON-tog],A nou-van                   [F SCO-NIS],A noa-ade,[F NTS-NIS]                   [A stu S F TON-tog],A sci S A nou-van                   A ssi S A sci                   {A stu: Dislodged}{F TON: Dislodged}France           : [F WNZ-NIS],F KES-TON,F ava S F KES-TON                   [A tog S F ava],A kei S A tog     
             {F WNZ: Dislodged}Indonesia        : F SMS-NAS,F WMS-SOS,F CIS-NMS,[F nmi-WIS]                   A ryu-nsh,A wci-eci,A wmi-wci                   F VOS S A ryu-nsh                   {Illegal Movement: F WIS - WMS}Japan            : A hon S A mid,A mau S A wak,A mid S A mauMarshall_Islands : F TUS-stu,F KIS-SAS,A kir S F TUS-stu                   A wak S A mauUsoa             : F SHS-chr,F PHS-COS,[A pho S
A kir-stu]                  {Action Error: A pho S A kir - stu}Zealand          : F cha-SWP,F chc-WNZ,F ENZ S F chc-WNZ    --------------------------------------------------------------------------    TROOP STATUS      Australia        ( 10): A ade, F LIS, F NTS, A sci, F SCO, A ssi                       F TUS, A van, F EFS, A ntuFrance           ( 4): F ava, A kei, A tog, F TONIndonesia        ( 9):
A eci, F NAS, F nmi, F NMS, A nsh, F SOS                       F VOS, A wci, F WISJapan            ( 3): A hon, A mau, A midMarshall_Islands ( 4): A kir, F SAS, F stu, A wakUsoa             ( 3): F chr, F COS, A phoZealand          ( 3): F ENZ, F SWP, F WNZTotal =          ( 34)    

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Oceania DC508\Fall/2006 Press! Less than 12 hours... - hapolley   (Nov 02, 2014, 7:29 am)
Missing two Order sets!========================================================A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia is proposed!Please vote with your Fall orders.Outcome will be posted with Winter results.=========================================================== Oceania DC508\Fall/2006 Press!:==========================================================Cool Marshall Islands - France: Fine with me.7) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually work together? Let's try it.6) USA, USA, USA to F: You are right: F SAS - TUS will not help the Ozzies, if I order A pho S M A kir - fij or A pho S M A kir - stu - they can only block one of these attacks. They might order F SAS - pho instead, but even then M can get fij or stu, because A kir can support F TUS or vice versa. So the American government supports the French proposal. ==========================================================5) France to USA and Marshalls: The plan of the USA don`t works because of SAS-TUS. If we play KES-TON, PHS-COS,KIS-SAS,kir-stu or
TUS-stu we have the maximal output. tog, ava and pho are safe and Marshalls has a 50% chance to win either stu or fij. Is that okay for you?4) France to NZ: I hope you see the signs3) USA, USA, USA => Marshall: You cannot defend your islands against the Ozzies. Oh, but you know what I mean, there's just too many of them. We have to collaborate to push them back. There is a great way to do this in Fall: A kir - sci, A pho - stu, F PHS - pho, F TUS S U A pho - stu, F KIS - SAS. This way A is guaranteed to lose a sc this year, unless F SMS - TUS. But I would be a fool to help her only rival for world domination...2) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Nice to see the greater view, but as far as I'm concerned I'm defending my homelands. This should prevent annihilation of the Islands, that's my primal concern. We're not the lamb that can be sacrificed for the greater
good.1) Marshall Islands - Anonymous (Indonesia?USA?): The Marshall Plan is to win. Or to be an annoyance to the countries who try to prevent it. USA USA USA in this case. That this favours other countries, well, that's just Oceanic life isn't it?==========================================================

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Oceania DC508\Fall/2006 deadline in 18 hours! - hapolley   (Nov 02, 2014, 12:30 am)
18 hours till deadline, missing prelims from 3 players!
Have Votes for: proposed 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia!I will not say who voted how but will give the for/against result.
SU\2006          |  ===========================================================Australia        | F COS, A noa, A nou, F NTS, F SAS, A sci                   F SCO, A ssi, A stu, F TONFrance           | F ava, A kei, F KES, A tog, F WNZIndonesia        | F CIS, F nmi, A ryu, F SMS, F
VOS, A wci                   F WIS, A wmi, F WMSJapan            | A hon, A mau, A midMarshall_Islands | A kir, F KIS, F TUS, A wakUsoa             | A pho, F PHS, F SHSZealand          | F cha, F chc, F ENZ===========================================================
GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue
Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game balance.

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Oceania DC508\Fall/2006 deadline in 48 hours! - hapolley   (Nov 01, 2014, 8:07 am)
48 hours till deadline, missing prelims from 4 players!Votes for: proposed 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia!I will not say who voted how but will give the for/against result.
SU\2006          |  ===========================================================Australia        | F COS, A noa, A nou, F NTS, F SAS, A sci                   F SCO, A ssi, A stu, F TONFrance           | F ava, A kei, F KES, A tog, F WNZIndonesia        | F CIS, F nmi, A ryu, F SMS, F VOS, A wci                   F WIS, A wmi, F WMSJapan            | A hon, A mau, A midMarshall_Islands | A kir, F KIS, F TUS, A wakUsoa             | A pho, F PHS, F SHSZealand          | F cha, F chc, F ENZ===========================================================
GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game balance.

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More Oceania DC508\Fall/2006 Press! - hapolley   (Oct 31, 2014, 8:44 am)
========================================================[GM input error strikes!  I made an error in my entries for Indonesia] having a unit move to wake instead of Wake Island Sea, did not hit combine button in my spell checker. No affect on orders outside of Indonesia unit positions. So delete previous results and keep revised ones sent out.========================================================A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia is proposed!Please vote with your Fall orders.Outcome will be posted with Winter results.=========================================================== Oceania DC508\Fall/2006 Press!:==========================================================5) France to USA and Marshalls: The plan of the USA don`t works because of SAS-TUS. If we play KES-TON, PHS-COS,KIS-SAS,kir-stu or TUS-stu we have the maximal output. tog, ava and pho are safe and Marshalls has a 50% chance to win either stu or fij. Is that okay for you?4) France to NZ: I hope you see the signs==========================================================3) USA, USA, USA => Marshall: You cannot defend your islands against the Ozzies. Oh, but you know what I mean, there's just too many of them. We have to collaborate to push them back. There is a great way to do this in Fall: A kir - sci, A pho - stu, F PHS - pho, F TUS S U A pho - stu, F KIS - SAS. This way A is
guaranteed to lose a sc this year, unless F SMS - TUS. But I would be a fool to help her only rival for world domination...==========================================================2) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Nice to see the greater view, but as far as I'm concerned I'm defending my homelands. This should prevent annihilation of the Islands, that's my primal concern. We're not the
lamb that can be sacrificed for the greater good.1) Marshall Islands - Anonymous (Indonesia?USA?): The Marshall Plan is to win. Or to be an annoyance to the countries who try to prevent it. USA USA USA in this case. That this favours other countries, well, that's just Oceanic life isn't it?==========================================================GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a
retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part
of the game balance.    GM - Zealand again receives unused support from Australia to sou! Australia suffers first setback with loss of tog in attempt to move to ava! France has successful season with no orders cut or blocked. Indonesia attempts to sea HOP, only armies can do that. Japan can not replace loss of unit in wci, but takes USoA home hon SC. Marshall attempt to support PHS-SAS not taken by USoA. Nice thing about sea units is they can retreat so F Hon lives to fight another day. Zealand 

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Oceania DC508\FAll/2006 Press! - hapolley   (Oct 31, 2014, 8:12 am)
========================================================[GM input error strikes!  I made an error in my entries for Indonesia] having a unit move to wake instead of Wake Island Sea, did not hit combine button in my spell checker. No affect on orders outside of Indonesia unit positions. So delete previous results and keep revised ones sent out.========================================================A 2 way draw between Indonesia and Australia is proposed!Please vote with your Fall orders.Outcome will be posted with Winter results.=========================================================== Oceania DC508\FAll/2006 Press!:==========================================================3) USA, USA, USA => Marshall: You cannot defend your islands against the Ozzies. Oh, but you know what I mean, there's just too many of them. We have to collaborate to push them back. There is a great way to do this in Fall: A kir - sci, A pho - stu, F PHS - pho, F TUS S U A pho - stu, F KIS - SAS. This way A is guaranteed to lose a sc this year, unless F SMS - TUS. But I would be a fool to help her only rival for world domination...==========================================================2) Marshall Islands - USA USA USA: Nice to see the greater view, but as far as I'm concerned I'm defending my homelands. This should prevent annihilation of the Islands, that's my primal concern. We're not the lamb that can be sacrificed for the
greater good.1) Marshall Islands - Anonymous (Indonesia?USA?): The Marshall Plan is to win. Or to be an annoyance to the countries who try to prevent it. USA USA USA in this case. That this favours other countries, well, that's just Oceanic life isn't it?==========================================================GM - Armies can move or support from one light blue island to the next so long as they are adjacent to a common sea!  They can not support sea units to hold only to move to a light blue Island that they could hop to. In Oceania Armies on single Islands have no retreat!  Yes they can Island Hop but when dislodged they can not Hop for a retreat.  A very important rule to keep the  fleets as an important part of the game balance.    GM - Zealand again receives unused
support from Australia to sou! Australia suffers first setback with loss of tog in attempt to move to ava! France has successful season with no orders cut or blocked. Indonesia attempts to sea HOP, only armies can do that. Japan can not replace loss of unit in wci, but takes USoA home hon SC. Marshall attempt to support PHS-SAS not taken by USoA. Nice thing about sea units is they can retreat so F Hon lives to fight another day. Zealand continues to hold on against France.

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