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I'll have to take Sims up on that, he has a very valid point. I'm fine with his proposal as it stands now.

/ Mikael



Subject: RE: DC104 Invitational Proposal
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:49:13 -0700
From: mike(at)southwall.com
To: felixkamchung(at)mac.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
CC: former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc104(at)diplomaticcorp.com; raybrucea(at)aol.com; swiatek(at)ruc.dk; kevinokelly(at)gmail.com; kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; tfletch33(at)yahoo.com; diplomaticcorp(at)yahoogroups.com

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There is no point to inviting others half way thru… they would have no vested interest. Why don’t we play it out with the remaining 4? If 3 drop, that’s fine, they just can’t win points in round 2… but there is no mechanism in place to give replacements any hope of winning the tournament.

South America…
Great map: http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/images/South%20America.gif
It’s 4-player, which is exactly what we’ve got. It has been played twice before, a 3rd game of it would be neat as it hasn’t been played since dc38.

Ok I get to propose a map. So I’ll propose South America, and played out by those who are still here. Yays / Nays?

Steve who are the remaining 4 players? I presume Mikael, Erik, Felix, myself?

I think those who get to propose variants are:
- Player who played Austria (Ray / not playing)
- Player first eliminated (Steve / not playing)
- Winner of last years tournament (Kevin / not playing)
- Highest score in round 1 (me)

That leaves me.

Ok I propose S.America. Votes? It has one vote, me. I love democracy.

Wow… since I’m the only one who gets to propose a variant! I’ll propose.. S.American Sims Variant… I get to order 2/3 of all enemy units every turn. :-p
Let’s see those votes now! Mwuhahahahaha

No really. Plain old game of S.American gunboat. Press allowed, but only non-negotiation press, and only one press release per country per spring or fall turn, displayed with results. Press deemed directly negotiating or directed may be striken in parts by the GM, but not disclosed to the player until they see what parts of their press ends up posted. Players may not ask the GM to pre-edit or proof for acceptability. Good old regular press game.

-mike



From: Felix Kam Chung [mailto:felixkamchung(at)mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:07 AM
To: Stephen Lytton
Cc: Former Trout; dc104(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Bruce Ray; Erik Swiatek; Kevin O'Kelly; Kevin O'Kelly; Mikael Johannsen; Michael Sims; Thomas Fletcher
Subject: Re: DC104 Invitational - The Next Round.


who are the three who are not playing and
what is the point?




On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Stephen Lytton wrote:




Gentleman.

I need to seek 3 replacements for the second round. I thank all the players for playing through the first game.

I ask the players, from here on, not to discuss the second game (ie prefered variant/map) until we have all our 7 players signed
up...... although we may have less than 4 options to choose from.

I will update you as soon as i have 7 players.

Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin
www.diplomaticcorp.com


(Ps Vote for Rachel Weisz)
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:41:08 -0600
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: DiplomaticCorp(at)yahoogroups.com ([email]DiplomaticCorp(at)yahoogroups.com[/email]); DC104(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC104(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Subject: DC104 Invitational - Fall 1908 - Forever For Her (Is Over For Me)
CC: raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]); swiatek(at)ruc.dk ([email]swiatek(at)ruc.dk[/email]); felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]); kevinokelly(at)gmail.com ([email]kevinokelly(at)gmail.com[/email]); kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]); stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]); tfletch33(at)yahoo.com ([email]tfletch33(at)yahoo.com[/email])

Deep within the bomb-proof walls of an undisclosed location in southern Europe, the leaders of the unoccupied territories gathered. The walls shook as explosions rocked the ground above them - dust sifting from the ceiling with each bone-jarring thump to collect on the ground.

The Tsar pointed at the map spread on the table before them. "Nyet, comrades. This cannot be!" His finger hovered above the black dot that represented Vienna, as if somehow he could change it back from black to red.

The pink-clad Austrian before him grimaced. "Unfortunately, its true. The attack from Tyrolia was too much for us to hold."

"But can they really be at nineteen supply centers?" The Italian questioned - his voice cracking.

The Sultan smirked. "Their gains came in the west, from France, not from our Eastern centers." He sat in his chair quietly smoking his hookah and trying to ignore the sounds of the war above them. "We might as well all be waving white flags."

At that moment, the door opened and the French President walked in. His wardrobe consisted of shining white garments, from his stylish coat to his burnished shoes. A white beret topped his smiling face. Whistling to himself, he stopped as he suddenly noticed that the other four men were glaring at him. "What?" he asked. "Something I said?"

------------------------------

And with France, so goes the board. Congratulations to Mike Sims for a sweeping 19 center German solo victory in DC-104. Finessing his way back into Vienna, the German also storms into Marseilles and Spain to seal the deal. And with that, the first round of the Invitational comes to a close.

There was one retreat required from Spain, but it had only the Gulf of Lyons to go to. But of course, that is purely window-dressing with the game resolved. My thanks to all you players who made this game a very memorable one.

EOG's are, of course, extremely welcome. I would greatly look forward to what all of you have to say about this crazy game of ours. It's been an honour being the GM for this - my hat is off to all of you.

As always, please let me know if I've made a mistake at all in the adjudication. For those who keep track of these things, the last few Subject Headers came from the great White Stripes album "Get Thee Behind Me Satan."

Cheers! (And congratulations once again to Mike..)

Trout
DC104
Invitational
A Standard Game
Game Started:
May 29, 2007




Current Turn:
Fall 1908

GAME RESULT:
GERMAN SOLO - FALL 1908



The Rowdy Cast

Austria:
Bruce Ray
raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])
England:
Steve Lytton
stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])
France:
Felix Kam Chung
felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email])
Germany:
Mike Sims
mike(at)jenningstech.com ([email]mike(at)jenningstech.com[/email])
Italy:
Kevin O'Kelly
kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia:
Mikael Johannsen
m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Turkey:
Erik Swiatek
swiatek(at)ruc.dk ([email]swiatek(at)ruc.dk[/email])



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])

CURRENT SEASON:



FALL 1908 ORDERS:



TURKEY:

F ION C A Gre -> Apu
OK
A Gre -> Apu
OK


AUSTRIA:

Vie s Tri - Tyrolia
[DISBANDED by TYL 2:1]
Bud s Vie
[CUT by GAL]


FRANCE:

Spa, sc s Por
[DISLODGED by MAO 2:1]
Por H
OK
Nap - Rom
OK
Tyn Sea - West Med
OK
Tun - N. Afr
OK


GERMANY:

A Gas S MAO-Spa(sc)
OK
F MAO-Spa(sc)
OK
F ENG-Bre
OK
F NAT-MAO
OK
F Nwy-NWG
OK
F Hol-NTH
OK
A Bur-Mar
OK
A Mun-Sil
OK
A Tyr-Vie
OK
A Boh S Tyr-Vie
OK
A Gal-Bud
[BOUNCE with BUD 1:1; DISBANDED by UKR 2:1]
A Sil-War
OK
A War-Ukr
OK
A Mos S War-Ukr
OK
A StP S Mos
OK
A Tus-Ven
[BOUNCE with VEN 2:2]
A Pie S Tus-Ven
OK


ITALY:

a ven s tri
VOID (Unit Ordered to Move)
f adr s ven
OK


RUSSIA:

Tri - Tyr
OK
Ser - Tri
OK
Sev - Ukr
[DEFEATED by WAR 2:1]
Arm - Sev
[BOUNCE with SEV 1:1]
Ukr - Gal
OK
Rum s Ukr - Gal
OK


EARLY WINTER 1908 RETREATS:

Austrian A Vienna is Automatically Disbanded

French F Spain(sc) is Auto-Retreated to Gulf of Lyons

German A Galicia is Automatically Disbanded



WINTER 1908 ADJUSTMENTS:

Turkey:
No Adjustments
Austria:
No Adjustments
France:
DISBANDS 2
Germany:
BUILDS 3
Italy:
No Adjustments
Russia:
BUILDS 1




UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



TURKEY:

2 Supply Centers - Smy, Gre
GAIN:
1 Army - Apu
LOSE:
1 Fleet - Ion



AUSTRIA:

2 Supply Centers - Tri, Bud
GAIN:
1 Army - Bud
LOSE: Tri
0 Fleets



FRANCE:

5 Supply Centers - Spa, Tun, Por, Mar, Rom
GAIN:
1 Army - Por
LOSE: Mar, Spa
4 Fleets - Rom, Wme, Naf, Gol
DISBANDS 2


GERMANY:

17 Supply Centers - Mun, Kie, Ber, Bel, Hol, Den, Swe, Lon, Edi, Nwy, Lvp, Stp, War, Vie
GAIN: Mar, Spa
Par, Bre, Mos
LOSE:
11 Armies - Tus, Gas, Pie, Stp, Ukr, Mos, Mar, Vie, War, Sil, Boh
BUILDS 3
5 Fleets - Mao, Spa(sc), Bre, Nwg, Nth



ITALY:

2 Supply Centers - Nap, Ven
GAIN:
1 Army - Ven
LOSE:
1 Fleet - Adr



RUSSIA:

6 Supply Centers - Sev, Rum, Bul, Ser, Ank, Con
GAIN: Tri
6 Armies - Tri, Ser, Arm, Rum, Sev, Ukr
LOSE:
0 Fleets -
BUILDS 1


ENGLAND - ELIMINATED 1907



1900
1901
1902
1903
1904
1905
1906
1907
1908
AUSTRIA
3
5
7
6
3
2
2
2
1
ENGLAND
3
4
4
4
3
1
1
0
0
FRANCE
3
4
3
3
4
5
5
5
3
GERMANY
3
6
7
9
11
13
15
17
19
ITALY
3
5
6
5
4
3
2
2
2
RUSSIA
4
6
4
4
6
7
7
6
7
TURKEY
3
4
3
3
3
3
2
2
2













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This message is in reply to post 602:

There is no point to inviting others half way thru… they would have no vested interest. Why don’t we play it out with the remaining 4? If 3 drop, that’s fine, they just can’t win points in round 2… but there is no mechanism in place to give replacements any hope of winning the tournament.

South America…
Great map: http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/images/South%20America.gif
It’s 4-player, which is exactly what we’ve got. It has been played twice before, a 3rd game of it would be neat as it hasn’t been played since dc38.

Ok I get to propose a map. So I’ll propose South America, and played out by those who are still here. Yays / Nays?

Steve who are the remaining 4 players? I presume Mikael, Erik, Felix, myself?

I think those who get to propose variants are:
- Player who played Austria (Ray / not playing)
- Player first eliminated (Steve / not playing)
- Winner of last years tournament (Kevin / not playing)
- Highest score in round 1 (me)

That leaves me.

Ok I propose S.America. Votes? It has one vote, me. I love democracy.

Wow… since I’m the only one who gets to propose a variant! I’ll propose.. S.American Sims Variant… I get to order 2/3 of all enemy units every turn. :-p
Let’s see those votes now! Mwuhahahahaha

No really. Plain old game of S.American gunboat. Press allowed, but only non-negotiation press, and only one press release per country per spring or fall turn, displayed with results. Press deemed directly negotiating or directed may be striken in parts by the GM, but not disclosed to the player until they see what parts of their press ends up posted. Players may not ask the GM to pre-edit or proof for acceptability. Good old regular press game.

-mike



From: Felix Kam Chung [mailto:felixkamchung(at)mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:07 AM
To: Stephen Lytton
Cc: Former Trout; dc104(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Bruce Ray; Erik Swiatek; Kevin O'Kelly; Kevin O'Kelly; Mikael Johannsen; Michael Sims; Thomas Fletcher
Subject: Re: DC104 Invitational - The Next Round.


who are the three who are not playing and
what is the point?




On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Stephen Lytton wrote:




Gentleman.

I need to seek 3 replacements for the second round. I thank all the players for playing through the first game.

I ask the players, from here on, not to discuss the second game (ie prefered variant/map) until we have all our 7 players signed
up...... although we may have less than 4 options to choose from.

I will update you as soon as i have 7 players.

Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin
www.diplomaticcorp.com


(Ps Vote for Rachel Weisz)




Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:41:08 -0600
From: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: DiplomaticCorp(at)yahoogroups.com ([email]DiplomaticCorp(at)yahoogroups.com[/email]); DC104(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC104(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Subject: DC104 Invitational - Fall 1908 - Forever For Her (Is Over For Me)
CC: raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]); swiatek(at)ruc.dk ([email]swiatek(at)ruc.dk[/email]); felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]); kevinokelly(at)gmail.com ([email]kevinokelly(at)gmail.com[/email]); kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]); stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]); tfletch33(at)yahoo.com ([email]tfletch33(at)yahoo.com[/email])

Deep within the bomb-proof walls of an undisclosed location in southern Europe, the leaders of the unoccupied territories gathered. The walls shook as explosions rocked the ground above them - dust sifting from the ceiling with each bone-jarring thump to collect on the ground.

The Tsar pointed at the map spread on the table before them. "Nyet, comrades. This cannot be!" His finger hovered above the black dot that represented Vienna, as if somehow he could change it back from black to red.

The pink-clad Austrian before him grimaced. "Unfortunately, its true. The attack from Tyrolia was too much for us to hold."

"But can they really be at nineteen supply centers?" The Italian questioned - his voice cracking.

The Sultan smirked. "Their gains came in the west, from France, not from our Eastern centers." He sat in his chair quietly smoking his hookah and trying to ignore the sounds of the war above them. "We might as well all be waving white flags."

At that moment, the door opened and the French President walked in. His wardrobe consisted of shining white garments, from his stylish coat to his burnished shoes. A white beret topped his smiling face. Whistling to himself, he stopped as he suddenly noticed that the other four men were glaring at him. "What?" he asked. "Something I said?"

------------------------------

And with France, so goes the board. Congratulations to Mike Sims for a sweeping 19 center German solo victory in DC-104. Finessing his way back into Vienna, the German also storms into Marseilles and Spain to seal the deal. And with that, the first round of the Invitational comes to a close.

There was one retreat required from Spain, but it had only the Gulf of Lyons to go to. But of course, that is purely window-dressing with the game resolved. My thanks to all you players who made this game a very memorable one.

EOG's are, of course, extremely welcome. I would greatly look forward to what all of you have to say about this crazy game of ours. It's been an honour being the GM for this - my hat is off to all of you.

As always, please let me know if I've made a mistake at all in the adjudication. For those who keep track of these things, the last few Subject Headers came from the great White Stripes album "Get Thee Behind Me Satan."

Cheers! (And congratulations once again to Mike..)

Trout
DC104
Invitational
A Standard Game
Game Started:
May 29, 2007




Current Turn:
Fall 1908

GAME RESULT:
GERMAN SOLO - FALL 1908



The Rowdy Cast

Austria:
Bruce Ray
raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])
England:
Steve Lytton
stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])
France:
Felix Kam Chung
felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email])
Germany:
Mike Sims
mike(at)jenningstech.com ([email]mike(at)jenningstech.com[/email])
Italy:
Kevin O'Kelly
kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia:
Mikael Johannsen
m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Turkey:
Erik Swiatek
swiatek(at)ruc.dk ([email]swiatek(at)ruc.dk[/email])



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])

CURRENT SEASON:



FALL 1908 ORDERS:



TURKEY:

F ION C A Gre -> Apu
OK
A Gre -> Apu
OK


AUSTRIA:

Vie s Tri - Tyrolia
[DISBANDED by TYL 2:1]
Bud s Vie
[CUT by GAL]


FRANCE:

Spa, sc s Por
[DISLODGED by MAO 2:1]
Por H
OK
Nap - Rom
OK
Tyn Sea - West Med
OK
Tun - N. Afr
OK


GERMANY:

A Gas S MAO-Spa(sc)
OK
F MAO-Spa(sc)
OK
F ENG-Bre
OK
F NAT-MAO
OK
F Nwy-NWG
OK
F Hol-NTH
OK
A Bur-Mar
OK
A Mun-Sil
OK
A Tyr-Vie
OK
A Boh S Tyr-Vie
OK
A Gal-Bud
[BOUNCE with BUD 1:1; DISBANDED by UKR 2:1]
A Sil-War
OK
A War-Ukr
OK
A Mos S War-Ukr
OK
A StP S Mos
OK
A Tus-Ven
[BOUNCE with VEN 2:2]
A Pie S Tus-Ven
OK


ITALY:

a ven s tri
VOID (Unit Ordered to Move)
f adr s ven
OK


RUSSIA:

Tri - Tyr
OK
Ser - Tri
OK
Sev - Ukr
[DEFEATED by WAR 2:1]
Arm - Sev
[BOUNCE with SEV 1:1]
Ukr - Gal
OK
Rum s Ukr - Gal
OK


EARLY WINTER 1908 RETREATS:

Austrian A Vienna is Automatically Disbanded

French F Spain(sc) is Auto-Retreated to Gulf of Lyons

German A Galicia is Automatically Disbanded



WINTER 1908 ADJUSTMENTS:

Turkey:
No Adjustments
Austria:
No Adjustments
France:
DISBANDS 2
Germany:
BUILDS 3
Italy:
No Adjustments
Russia:
BUILDS 1




UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



TURKEY:

2 Supply Centers - Smy, Gre
GAIN:
1 Army - Apu
LOSE:
1 Fleet - Ion



AUSTRIA:

2 Supply Centers - Tri, Bud
GAIN:
1 Army - Bud
LOSE: Tri
0 Fleets



FRANCE:

5 Supply Centers - Spa, Tun, Por, Mar, Rom
GAIN:
1 Army - Por
LOSE: Mar, Spa
4 Fleets - Rom, Wme, Naf, Gol
DISBANDS 2


GERMANY:

17 Supply Centers - Mun, Kie, Ber, Bel, Hol, Den, Swe, Lon, Edi, Nwy, Lvp, Stp, War, Vie
GAIN: Mar, Spa
Par, Bre, Mos
LOSE:
11 Armies - Tus, Gas, Pie, Stp, Ukr, Mos, Mar, Vie, War, Sil, Boh
BUILDS 3
5 Fleets - Mao, Spa(sc), Bre, Nwg, Nth



ITALY:

2 Supply Centers - Nap, Ven
GAIN:
1 Army - Ven
LOSE:
1 Fleet - Adr



RUSSIA:

6 Supply Centers - Sev, Rum, Bul, Ser, Ank, Con
GAIN: Tri
6 Armies - Tri, Ser, Arm, Rum, Sev, Ukr
LOSE:
0 Fleets -
BUILDS 1


ENGLAND - ELIMINATED 1907



1900
1901
1902
1903
1904
1905
1906
1907
1908
AUSTRIA
3
5
7
6
3
2
2
2
1
ENGLAND
3
4
4
4
3
1
1
0
0
FRANCE
3
4
3
3
4
5
5
5
3
GERMANY
3
6
7
9
11
13
15
17
19
ITALY
3
5
6
5
4
3
2
2
2
RUSSIA
4
6
4
4
6
7
7
6
7
TURKEY
3
4
3
3
3
3
2
2
2













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