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DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT FRANCE - bschoner   (Nov 13, 2008, 10:11 am)
My initial hopes, as usual for France, were to establish a firm alliance with England or Germany against the other. Unfortunately, England was often non-communicative (except to complain that I didn’t provide a support he had never asked for), and Germany displayed a level a brusque arrogance that really rubbed me the wrong way (nothing personal, but that’s the honest truth). Thankfully, Italy and I had a firm DMZ that we both kept to, and there were no open hostilities among the E/F/G triangle at first. When they did come, however, they were an ugly tangle; Russia and I went after Germany, while England went after Russia and I (and eventually Germany). I’m not sure who else was communicating with each other at this stage, but to me it felt a lot like a Gunboat game; only Russia seemed to be talking to me on any regular basis.

Eventually Germany fell under the combined (if not coordinated) E/F/R assault (except for the rogue unit that I let wander into my backfield since I didn’t have time to deal with it at the moment). I then turned to England, and managed to outmaneuver his staunch defenses with a few lucky guesses, letting me start to wear him down. Russia and I were still on good terms, and things looked good for the midgame. Austria was becoming the 800-lb gorilla of the southeast, but Russia and I would probably have been able to contain him…until Russia decided to take Belgium from me. At that point, my insincere negotiations to form an F/A alliance against Russia became sincere, and Russia began to crumble quickly. (Thus always to those who stab for a single SC!)

Austria got the lion’s share of the gains against Russia, since most of my attention was directed towards polishing off the stubborn English. It was clear that Austria was becoming a solo threat, so when the moment seemed right, I began moving into the Med, hoping to make some significant gains before he could get his forces repositioned. Italy and Russia also seemed amenable to stopping the solo, and the anti-Austrian alliance went well at first. However, my initial gains were apparently a little too successful, and it soon became apparent that Italy would no longer be helping fight Austria for fear of a French solo. I wasn’t opposed to an F/A draw in principle, but I intended to keep pushing against Austria until he demonstrated the ability to slow me down. This past year, he finally did, and I accepted the draw with only a small pang of regret for what might have been.

Many thanks to Monsieur Bielschowsky, our esteemed Judge; to the players who saw it through to the end, however bitter it might have been; and to those who stepped in as replacements. This was my first game on DC, and I definitely plan to be back for more!

Best,

Brian/France

[Reply]

DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY - Githraine   (Nov 13, 2008, 7:43 am)
Matt, a WOT fan?
Well I stepped in to a mercy position in Russia, only one Home SC and no prospects.
I quickly decided that to survive I needed friends, and as there seemed to be a 'Stop the Austrian Solo' rally on every corner, I hopped on.
One early success let me see the Kremlin again before getting pushed out with only 2 SCs to live on when the juggernauts finally decided to end everything.

Glad I could help keep this one going, and glad I managed to survive Wink

Thanks everyone!

Jason


From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA) <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>; David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG) <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>; Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS) <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>; Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France) <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Jason K (DC176 RUS) <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Willie Wonder (DC176 GER) <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>; bielschowsky.f(at)gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY


Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.

While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.

Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw: afterpost
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank



[Reply]

DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY - MattKelly   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:59 pm)
Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

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This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.



While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.



Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.


--- On Wed, 11/12/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw: afterpost
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank



[Reply]

DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY (dc176) Githraine Nov 13, 07:43 am
Matt, a WOT fan?
Well I stepped in to a mercy position in Russia, only one Home SC and no prospects.
I quickly decided that to survive I needed friends, and as there seemed to be a 'Stop the Austrian Solo' rally on every corner, I hopped on.
One early success let me see the Kremlin again before getting pushed out with only 2 SCs to live on when the juggernauts finally decided to end everything.

Glad I could help keep this one going, and glad I managed to survive Wink

Thanks everyone!

Jason


From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA) <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>; David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG) <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>; Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS) <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>; Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France) <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Jason K (DC176 RUS) <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Willie Wonder (DC176 GER) <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>; bielschowsky.f(at)gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY


Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.

While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.

Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw: afterpost
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank



END GAME STATEMENT ITALY - MattKelly   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:58 pm)
Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.

While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.

Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.

[Reply]

DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian D... - bielf11   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:15 pm)
I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian D... - bielf11   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:06 pm)
After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1915 adjudication delayed until 12... - MattKelly   (Nov 11, 2008, 5:05 pm)
Everybody make sure they have their vote in support of the Austrian/French tie.

-Matt-

--- On Tue, 11/11/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915 adjudication delayed until 12 Nov (at) 23:00 GMT
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 6:01 PM

Prelims in for everyone.
So still some time left for last minute negotations. Or strategy changes.
Will adjudicate in 25 hrs.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1915 adjudication delayed until 12... - bielf11   (Nov 11, 2008, 5:01 pm)
Prelims in for everyone.
So still some time left for last minute negotations. Or strategy changes.
Will adjudicate in 25 hrs.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1915 adjudication delayed until 12 Nov @ 23:00 GMT (dc176) MattKelly Nov 11, 05:05 pm
Everybody make sure they have their vote in support of the Austrian/French tie.

-Matt-

--- On Tue, 11/11/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915 adjudication delayed until 12 Nov (at) 23:00 GMT
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 6:01 PM

Prelims in for everyone.
So still some time left for last minute negotations. Or strategy changes.
Will adjudicate in 25 hrs.

Frank

DC176 - Winter 1914 adjustments - bielf11   (Nov 10, 2008, 4:22 pm)
Winter 1914:
Austria builds F in TRI and A in VIE.

Spring 1915 orders deadline has been moved from Nov 11 to Nov 12 at 23:00 GMT.
Map and DPY file are attached.

Frank

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DC176 - Winter adjustments - bielf11   (Nov 10, 2008, 9:18 am)
Apologies for the delay.

Austria has build the following in Winter 1914:
F Trieste
A Vienna

We also have another French-Austrian Draw proposal for Spring.
Please send in your votes.

Maps and DPY file will follow in 8 hrs.
Because of this I will wait until 11/12 at 23:00 GMT for all Spring 1915 orders to come in; but I will adjudciate as soon as I have all of them in.
For those who have already submitted their Spring orders: don't forget the votes.

Frank

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DC176 - TIE PROPOSAL - MattKelly   (Nov 09, 2008, 8:23 pm)
I am again putting forward a proposal to end the game with a French/Austrian tie.

-Matt-

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DC176 - Autumn 1914 adjudication - bielf11   (Nov 03, 2008, 8:26 pm)
Autumn 1914: the French army in Kiel retreats to Ruhr.

Ownership:
-----------------
Austria:
Berlin, Budapest, Greece, Kiel, Moscow, Naples, Norway, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Trieste, Venice, Vienna, Warsaw.
France:
Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Munich, Paris, Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Italy:
Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.
Russia:
Denmark, Sweden.

Adjustments:
-------------------
Austria: Supp 16 Unit 14 Build 2
France: Supp 12 Unit 12 Build 0
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0

Who would have thought that Austria would end this year with 2 builds?
Okay, since Austria lost one unit this year, it is actually only a gain of one.
Russia lost one unit this year and ends it with 2 SCs.
Italy still has 4 SCs. For now.

Winter 1914 deadline is Saturday Nov 8 at 23:00 GMT. Or once I have the build orders in.
Deadline for Spring 1915 will be on Tuesday Nov 11 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Fall 1914 adjudication - bielf11   (Nov 03, 2008, 7:52 pm)
Fall 1914: the Powers have been very kind to eachother, or so it seems.
France takes Munich but has to give up Kiel to the Austrians in return. Not sure who cries victory over this exchange.
Austria also takes Norway from the French but was stopped at the Piedmont borders.
Napels is safe but it comes with a price: the French have entered the Ionian Sea.
Italy manages to take Aegean Sea but now has left Bulgaria open to the Austrians.

One retreat: for the French, see below.

Adjudication:
-----------------------
Austria:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Kiel
A Greece - Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Naples
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Munich - Kiel
A Rome Supports F Ionian Sea - Naples
A Rumania Supports A Greece - Serbia
A Sevastopol Hold
A Silesia Supports A Berlin
A St Petersburg - Norway
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont
A Venice - Piedmont (*Fails*)
A Warsaw - Livonia

France:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Berlin
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
A Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Berlin (*Dislodged*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
A North Africa Hold
A Piedmont Hold
A Ruhr - Munich
F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea

Italy:
F Black Sea - Constantinople
F Bulgaria(sc) - Aegean Sea
F Constantinople - Smyrna
A Smyrna - Ankara

Russia:
A Denmark Hold
A Finland - Sweden


Retreats:
-------------
French A Kiel can retreat to Ruhr; or OTB.

Deadline for Retreats is Wednesday, Nov 5 at 23:00 GMT. (on Nov 4 my focus will be on the Elections!)
Of course, if I receive the retreat earlier, I will adjudicate at my earliest opportunity.
A look ahead: deadline for upcoming Winter 1914 is Saturday Nov 8, at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Summer 1914 adjudication - bielf11   (Oct 28, 2008, 9:23 pm)
Summer 1914 retreats:
--------------------------------
- Austrian A PIE - VEN
- Russian A STP - FIN

Brings us to Fall 1914.
Will we see a very different Europe at end of the year now that Austria had to give up Piedmont and that Russia had to withdraw from its home turf?
Are we going into a new era with the Austrian Empire giving way to the French empire?
Will the Italians be able to maintain their cat-and-mouse game with the Austrians?
Can't wait to see.
Deadline for Fall orders is Monday Nov 3 at 23:00 GMT.

Map and RP DPY file are attached.
Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1914 Adjudication - Draw proposal v... - bielf11   (Oct 27, 2008, 9:54 pm)
The French-Austrian Draw proposal was voted DOWN.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/10/27
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1914 Adjudication
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


Spring 1914: setback for Russia; Austria avoids French onslaught in former Germany; France enforces breakthrough in Piedmont and takes Tunis.
Retreats required for Summer 1914 (see below).

Adjudication:
-------------------------
Austria:
F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc) (*Bounce*)
A Berlin Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Naples (*Bounce*)
A Livonia - St Petersburg
A Moscow Supports A Livonia - St Petersburg
A Munich Supports A Berlin (*Cut*)
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Rome - Naples (*Bounce*)
A Rumania Supports A Sevastopol
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
A Silesia Supports A Berlin
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
A Ukraine - Warsaw

France:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Berlin
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Holland - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Berlin (*Fails*)
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A North Africa Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tunis
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

Italy:
F Black Sea Supports F Bulgaria(sc)
F Bulgaria(sc) Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Cut*)
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Fails*)
A Smyrna Hold

Russia:
A Denmark - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg Hold (*Dislodged*)


Summer 1914 retreats:
-----------------------------------
Austrian A Piedmont can retreat to Tuscany or Venice; or OTB.
Russian A St Petersburg can retreat to Finland or Norway; or OTB.
Deadline for the retreats is Tuesday Oct 28 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1914 Adjudication - bielf11   (Oct 27, 2008, 9:51 pm)
Spring 1914: setback for Russia; Austria avoids French onslaught in former Germany; France enforces breakthrough in Piedmont and takes Tunis.
Retreats required for Summer 1914 (see below).

Adjudication:
-------------------------
Austria:
F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc) (*Bounce*)
A Berlin Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Naples (*Bounce*)
A Livonia - St Petersburg
A Moscow Supports A Livonia - St Petersburg
A Munich Supports A Berlin (*Cut*)
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Rome - Naples (*Bounce*)
A Rumania Supports A Sevastopol
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
A Silesia Supports A Berlin
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
A Ukraine - Warsaw

France:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Berlin
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Holland - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Berlin (*Fails*)
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A North Africa Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tunis
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

Italy:
F Black Sea Supports F Bulgaria(sc)
F Bulgaria(sc) Supports F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Cut*)
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Fails*)
A Smyrna Hold

Russia:
A Denmark - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg Hold (*Dislodged*)


Summer 1914 retreats:
-----------------------------------
Austrian A Piedmont can retreat to Tuscany or Venice; or OTB.
Russian A St Petersburg can retreat to Finland or Norway; or OTB.
Deadline for the retreats is Tuesday Oct 28 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Winter 1913 adjustments - bielf11   (Oct 21, 2008, 9:04 pm)
Winter 1913: France builds a fleet in Brest.

Will Russia and Italy manage to survive another year?
Will Austria be able to hold off France in the Mediterranean?


We'll see.
Spring 1914 will be upon us on Monday Oct 27 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Fall 1913 adjudication - bielf11   (Oct 21, 2008, 6:07 pm)
Fall 1913: Austria under attack!
The French and Russians launch attacks on Austrian units in Munich, Marseille, Tunis, and Livonia. The French fleet has now neared the coastline of Italy where Austria has increased its defenses.
The Austrians had all their units in the East support the attack on Moscow; the Russian army was outnumbered 3 to 1 (or 4 to 2 if we include Livonia and St Petersburg).
The Italians cleverly anticipated the departure of the Austrian fleet from Smyrna and moved their army in. They now seem to have strengthened their hold on the Southeast.

No retreats required.

Orders executed:
----------------------------
Austria:
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Bohemia - Silesia
F Ionian Sea Supports F Tunis
A Livonia Supports A Warsaw - Moscow (*Cut*)
A Munich Supports A Berlin (*Cut*)
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Fails*)
A Rumania Supports A Sevastopol
A Serbia - Greece
A Sevastopol Supports A Warsaw - Moscow
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea
F Tunis Hold
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw - Moscow
A Venice - Rome
A Warsaw - Moscow

France:
A Belgium - Holland
A Burgundy Supports A Kiel - Munich
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Munich (*Fails*)
A Marseilles - Piedmont (*Fails*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
A North Africa - Tunis (*Fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel - Munich
F Spain(sc) - Gulf of Lyon
F Sweden - Baltic Sea
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea

Italy:
A Armenia - Smyrna
F Black Sea Supports F Bulgaria(sc)
F Bulgaria(sc) Hold
F Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Smyrna

Russia:
A Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Moscow Supports A St Petersburg - Livonia (*Disbanded*)
A St Petersburg - Livonia (*Fails*)


Winter 1913 adjustments:
-------------------------------------
Austria: Supp 15 Unit 15 Build 0
France: Supp 12 Unit 11 Build 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0 (no home SCs)
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0 (no free home SCs)

Winter deadline is set to Wednesday Oct 22 at 23:00 GMT.
A look ahead at Spring 1914 deadline: will be set at Monday Oct 27, at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Summer 1913 - bielf11   (Oct 15, 2008, 5:10 pm)
The Austrian army in Kiel retreats to Berlin.
And I case you wondered: the proposed French - Austrian Draw was voted down.

Deadline for Fall 1913 orders is Tuesday Oct 21 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1913 adjudication - bielf11   (Oct 14, 2008, 5:52 pm)
Spring 1913:
The new leader of Russia appears to be somewhat successful; it managed to regain Moscow and supported the French into Kiel. So was it agreed that the French navy invaded in Sweden in return?
The Italian leader did another Big Shuffle; its Marines were shipped across the Black Sea to Armenia, while the Fleet in Constantinople took their place.
The Austrians and the French had many clashes back and forth. In the Mediterranean these all ended in a stalemate, but in Germany Austria had to give up Kiel and it couldn't prevent France from taking Ruhr. At least the Austrian commander did make a successful attack on Sevastopol. But the other powers seem to be closing in on them.

Retreats are due for Summer 1913. See below.

Orders executed:
-------------------------------
Austria:
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Budapest - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
A Kiel Supports A Munich - Ruhr (*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Ruhr (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Hold
A Prussia - Livonia
A Rumania - Sevastopol
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
A Trieste - Venice
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports A Rumania - Sevastopol
A Warsaw - Moscow (*Fails*)

France:
A Belgium Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy - Ruhr
A Holland - Kiel
A Marseilles Supports A Paris - Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A North Africa - Tunis (*Fails*)
F North Sea - Helgoland Bight
F Norway - Sweden
A Paris - Burgundy
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Ankara - Constantinople
F Black Sea Convoys A Bulgaria - Armenia
A Bulgaria - Armenia
F Constantinople - Bulgaria(sc)

Russia:
A Denmark Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Livonia - Moscow
A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia - Moscow


Retreats
--------------
The Austrian army has to give up Kiel to the French. It can retreat to Berlin; or OTB.
Deadline for Summer 1913 retreat is Oct 15 Wednesday at 23:00 GMT.

Lookahead at Fall 1913: deadline is set for Tuesday Oct 21 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - Winter 1912 adjustments - bielf11   (Oct 09, 2008, 11:24 am)
Winter 1912: we have a new leader for Russia: Jason K (Githraine). I expect all of you to give our new Russian leader an appropriate welcome (for those that see their Solo aspirations evaporate that may may be accompanied by teeth-grinding or other rituals).

The new Russian leader has set out with a firm and clear strategy and disbanded the army in Ruhr; after a year of uncertainty the Russian kozaks were only too happy to be able go back to Mother Russia.
France builds up it force and so does Austria. Italy wishes it could say the same, out there in the East.

Adjustments for Winter 1912:

Austria: Build A Budapest
France: Build F Brest and Build A Paris
Russia: Remove A Ruhr

Next is Spring 1913: we have a proposal for an Austrian - French Draw. Let's hear your votes.
Deadline for Spring 1913 is Tuesday Oct 14 at 23:00 GMT.

Frank

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DC176 - 1912 Winter adjustments delayed until tomo... - former.trout   (Oct 08, 2008, 11:01 pm)
Now honestly.. WHO in their right mind would want to see the Russian position in CD? That's just crazy talk.

<fingers crossed>


=P


Trout

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])> wrote:

Hi everyone,

we may have someone that will join us to take up Russia.
I had hoped to have his confirmation today but we'll have to wait another day.
I know that some of you would rather see Russia in CD (no names) but since this player already showed his interest I don't want to be so blunt to just go ahead.
And some of you would like to see Russia continue (again, no names).


So I'll get back to you tomorrow once I have heard back from the replacement player.
And Dean, if you get this, hope all's well.


Frank

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DC176 - 1912 Winter adjustments delayed until tomo... - bielf11   (Oct 08, 2008, 7:19 pm)
Hi everyone,

we may have someone that will join us to take up Russia.
I had hoped to have his confirmation today but we'll have to wait another day.
I know that some of you would rather see Russia in CD (no names) but since this player already showed his interest I don't want to be so blunt to just go ahead.
And some of you would like to see Russia continue (again, no names).


So I'll get back to you tomorrow once I have heard back from the replacement player.
And Dean, if you get this, hope all's well.


Frank

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DC176 - 1912 Winter adjustments delayed until tomorrow (dc176) former.trout Oct 08, 11:01 pm
Now honestly.. WHO in their right mind would want to see the Russian position in CD? That's just crazy talk.

<fingers crossed>


=P


Trout

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])> wrote:

Hi everyone,

we may have someone that will join us to take up Russia.
I had hoped to have his confirmation today but we'll have to wait another day.
I know that some of you would rather see Russia in CD (no names) but since this player already showed his interest I don't want to be so blunt to just go ahead.
And some of you would like to see Russia continue (again, no names).


So I'll get back to you tomorrow once I have heard back from the replacement player.
And Dean, if you get this, hope all's well.


Frank

DC176 - Summer 1908 Adjudication - bielf11   (Aug 11, 2008, 8:49 pm)
Italy ordered its fleet to the Adriatic Sea.

Deadline for Fall 1908 will be Thursday 14, 23:00 GMT.

Attached is the new map for the situation at the end of Summer 1908.
As well as the updated DPY file.

Frank

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DC176 - Fall 1906 - Adjudication - Sardine   (Jul 01, 2008, 8:57 pm)
Can Russia retreat Fleet Belgium off the board? If so then do that....if not then retreat to Picardy

Thanks Dean

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What an interesting battlefield Europe has become in 1906:a look at the map shows a NW - SE corridor of war with a rather peaceful NE and SW. All these close-combat situations and strategically clever moves have caused several countries to change Powers quite unexpectedly. And half of the remaining Powers have retreats this Autumn: Russia, Germany, and England. And has Italy just been backstabbed by Russia or is it only an inconvenient misunderstanding? I bet it is for Italy! Orders for Fall 1906 ----------------------------- Austria: A Apulia - Rome (*Fails*) A Budapest Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia - Greece (*Cut*) F Ionian Sea - Tunis A Serbia - Greece (*Fails*) A Tyrolia - Vienna A Ukraine - Rumania England: A Holland Supports F North Sea - Belgium F Kiel - Berlin (*Dislodged*) F London - English Channel (*Bounce*) F North Sea - Belgium F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Fails*) A Wales - Liverpool France: A Burgundy - Paris F English Channel -
North Sea F Irish Sea - English Channel (*Bounce*) F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean F Norway Supports F English Channel - North Sea (*Cut*) Germany: A Gascony - Marseilles A Vienna Supports F Trieste (*Dislodged*) Italy: A Albania - Serbia (*Fails*) F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol (*Void*) A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*) F Greece Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Cut*) A Rome Supports F Trieste - Venice (*Cut*) F Trieste - Venice Russia: A Armenia - Smyrna F Belgium - Holland (*Dislodged*) A Berlin Supports A Munich - Kiel A Munich - Kiel A Silesia - Munich Retreats ------------ England: F in Kiel Germany: A in Vienna Russia: F in Belgium Retreats are due by Wednesday, July 2 23.00 GMT. Adjudication may happen sooner if all retreats are in marked as final. Then youll have until July 20, 23.00 GMT to present me with your builds for Winter 1906. More about that tomorrow. Your GM Frank
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